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Old 06-17-2011, 11:39 PM   #526 (permalink)
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What about an X? This would allow me to tie into the spreader bars and still spread out the load along the dash bar, an additional side benefit would be a little better visibility?
Umm, I'm sorry buti can't see how that would give you better visibility having 2 additional bars running across the windshield. Maybe I just can't picture it though
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Old 06-18-2011, 01:51 AM   #527 (permalink)
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See how the junction of the two tubes in the X is more towards the middle where the V and inverted V have a bar right there. Technically it makes a difference, it ain't much of a difference but I think it would be noticeable.
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that would be great, if you only looked straight ahead.
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that would be great, if you only looked straight ahead.
Yeah that's what I was thinking too. I really can't see the x design offering more visibility. But hey, cut yourself some tube and tack it in and see for yourself
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:55 PM   #530 (permalink)
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Started on Saturday morning, finished today around 5:30pm. Still need to finish weld everything, then paint and add the aluminum roof, panels and the windshield but all of the bending, etc. is done.




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Started on Saturday morning, finished today around 5:30pm. Still need to finish weld everything, then paint and add the aluminum roof, panels and the windshield but all of the bending, etc. is done.



How tall are you?
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:03 PM   #532 (permalink)
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How tall are you?
6'2". I made the cage to fit me with 5" - 7" of head room regardless of what I'm wearing (summer or winter clothes and/or helmet.) I don't run a stock top so I wasn't worried about trying to make one fit. I'm more worried about what happens when I'm in a rollover which is typical of a wheeling trip with me.

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6'2". I made the cage to fit me with 5" - 7" of head room regardless of what I'm wearing (summer or winter clothes and/or helmet.) I don't run a stock top so I wasn't worried about trying to make one fit. I'm more worried about what happens when I'm in a rollover which is typical of a wheeling trip with me.

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Funny, this just made it to my garage

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Funny, this just made it to my garage

Good deal. Hope you enjoy it.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking too. I really can't see the x design offering more visibility. But hey, cut yourself some tube and tack it in and see for yourself
Yeah, I'm going to try it when the time comes. It works for my cage because of where my spreader bars are at and where I want to tie into the engine compartment. When I built the cage I thought I was going in the right direction but it's funny how things turn out.
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Im trying to fig out specs on this thing:
Rubi 44 front, 8.8 rear, stretch to around 100" on 36s?

any pics of how you mounted it to the frame?

Jeep looks good, good enough for KOH stock class?
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Im trying to fig out specs on this thing:
Rubi 44 front, 8.8 rear, stretch to around 100" on 36s?

any pics of how you mounted it to the frame?

Jeep looks good, good enough for KOH stock class?
Good guess. Rubi 44 front with RCV's, 8.8 rear, stretched to 100" on 36's. Heres some pics of how I tied it into the frame. Ignore the old frame tie-in in the rear, I haven't had time to clean it all up yet.

Thanks, I wish it was legal for stock class but the WB is too long and front and rear frame have been modified. I'd have to race in stock-mod. Oh yeah, and I would need some sponsors to help get me there as racing in KOH would take some $$$ to make sure I had all the parts (and back-up parts) that I would need to meet all safety requirements and be competitive.






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thanks, yea I dont know if those Orange Home Depot seats will pass tech either.
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I have a cheap, Chinese made 'longacre' knockoff.
Came to me for free, so I'll run it . . . One of the biggest distinctions I see, is in the mounting. Longacre has billet clamps, this uses self-tappers. It's just zip-tied in place for now.





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I'm more worried about what happens when I'm in a rollover which is typical of a wheeling trip with me.

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I am witness to this and yes at least once a trip is pretty much the norm.
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I have a cheap, Chinese made 'longacre' knockoff.
Came to me for free, so I'll run it . . . One of the biggest distinctions I see, is in the mounting. Longacre has billet clamps, this uses self-tappers. It's just zip-tied in place for now.


I like the big mirror. For now I mounted my stock mirror to a shaft collar. Drilled and tapped the shaft collar and drilled and countersunk the stock windshield tab.

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Good to see more rigs going to some diagonals across the B-Pillar. However I do still see one disturbing thing and that is a complete lack of padding around the head area, especially where they are still using factory belts. Having witnessed a serious roll (5 or 6 times - hard to tell through the trees but it was about 150' off trail when it stopped). In this case, the driver's cage held up fine (despite a lack of triangulation) however, driver and passenger were knocked unconscious with the passenger suffering a concussion and head lacerations. Passenger was ground transported to a trauma center (they figured they could have the passenger stabilized at a local hospital then transported by ground in less time that it would take for lifeflight).
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OK, finally have something to add to this. Been working on my YJ cage for a few weeks now. Used the factory rear section, then added the Blue Torch Sport cage kit and have added additional tube in 1.75"x.120 and 1.25" x.120 wall DOM. Looking at it this morning, I think i'm pretty much done adding tube to it apart from doing the frame tie ins. Whats everyones opinions? I think I'm pretty good with the triangulation. I feel I have triangulated and reinforced most of the corners



















Ignore the unfinished welds. Still need to remove the whole thing to do the finished welding in the areas I couldn't easily get to with it in the vehicle. will paint it at that point as well
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OK, finally have something to add to this. Been working on my YJ cage for a few weeks now. Used the factory rear section, then added the Blue Torch Sport cage kit and have added additional tube in 1.75"x.120 and 1.25" x.120 wall DOM. Looking at it this morning, I think i'm pretty much done adding tube to it apart from doing the frame tie ins. Whats everyones opinions? I think I'm pretty good with the triangulation. I feel I have triangulated and reinforced most of the corners





Ignore the unfinished welds. Still need to remove the whole thing to do the finished welding in the areas I couldn't easily get to with it in the vehicle. will paint it at that point as well
Personally, I'd add at least a single diagonal across the b-pillars.
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Personally, I'd add at least a single diagonal across the b-pillars.
yeah I was thinking that too. Issue is i am pretty tall and need the seats back as far as I can get them. doesn't levee much room and I don't have a bender
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yeah I was thinking that too. Issue is i am pretty tall and need the seats back as far as I can get them. doesn't levee much room and I don't have a bender
You could potentially take measurements and make a cardboard or wire template and have someone bend something up. Do you have a shop local that can do it? Genright has an X type b-pillar brace that might give you an idea. A full X is possibly overkill but a single diagonal should make a noticeable difference.
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You could potentially take measurements and make a cardboard or wire template and have someone bend something up. Do you have a shop local that can do it? Genright has an X type b-pillar brace that might give you an idea. A full X is possibly overkill but a single diagonal should make a noticeable difference.
I could look into that. I was also considering just adding some gussets to the b pillar hoop in the corners. that should strengthen it up a little bit anyway.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:31 PM   #549 (permalink)
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what the average total length of tube going into a tj 4 seater cage? I realize every cage will be slightly different, but on average..... i need to order my tube and dont wana be short but at the same time dont want to have 40 extra feet laying around the shop rusting.

So for the guys posting up their junk throw in a rough total amount of tube used. this way someone get the "inspiration" they need form this thread they got a bit of an estimate on how much they need per different design. .
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