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Old 03-30-2008, 11:46 AM   #176 (permalink)
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:10 PM   #177 (permalink)
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real nice!!!!!!!!!!
as are many in this thread
sure hope when it's my turn I can turn out something I can be proud of........it don't look easy to me, I got the tools
jd2 model 3, ful hydro, hh187 plasma band saw, etc
& the bend tech pro, just never bent any tuble
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:16 PM   #178 (permalink)
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real nice!!!!!!!!!!
as are many in this thread
sure hope when it's my turn I can turn out something I can be proud of........it don't look easy to me, I got the tools
jd2 model 3, ful hydro, hh187 plasma band saw, etc
& the bend tech pro, just never bent any tuble
can i borrow your tools till you need them
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:44 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Here are a bunch of pics of my work in progress. Alumcj on here has done all the bending for me, helped me get it into the jeep. Those are my booger welds

Oh, and I know I know, needs more gussets, needs more triangulation, needs an X here, the welds suck, etc. The design was thought out basically to fit around my sons seat and him being able to go out wheeling. It isn't the strongest cage, but it is safer then what was there.

Now that my "bender/fabricator" has started on his chassis the amount of work I have gotten done has started to slow considerably as I have a hard time visualizing and knowing where to start. The cage is mostly welded up, front seats are in, Gotta do frame tie ins and my son's seat mount. Pull it out, finish welding, paint it and reinstall.
Pictures in no particular order and from a million more angles then anyone cares to see














Plate is welded to the floor and tapped. It's 1/4" plate. The top plate is 3/16 and makes a nice mount and the cage is still easily removed



Xander is not going to be able to see out the front too well this year, but I really don't want to bring his seat up any higher at this point...its not hard mounted yet, so we'll see if I chance my mind.



Before the mindsheild bars that Xjeeper told me I had to add...he was right, looks way better with the bars.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:45 PM   #180 (permalink)
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Couple more, remember I said more angles and pics then you care to look at.















Can you tell I am excited about it?
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:52 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Mine has been thoroughly tested. After many floppes and gently over the front a couple times the worst finally happened a few weeks ago.

The hill is stupid steep, nearly vertical even, and about 15 feet high. Got the front end over the top and thought I had it. Then the jeep jumped left and the rear caught traction. The whole rig jumped backwards off the hill in one motion....no roll over backwards, it leaped. First thing to land was the windshield, followed by the stinger on the front. It jumped so far backwards that it landed a jeep length and a half away from the hill.












Cage didn't budge at all. Felt really good actually. Only damage was the windshield getting totalled, and the front fenders collapsing between the flare and the firewall. The impact pushed them straight back and accordioned the sheet metal there.
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Mine has been thoroughly tested.
That is a crazy roll and could have been real bad. Glad you were ok. When you get a chance, take some pictures of the joints and tubing. Its nice to see real world testing (with people safe as well).


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Old 04-22-2008, 10:58 AM   #183 (permalink)
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nah, some krylon rattle can and will buff out! Darn brink, good roll, glad you did good and teh cage did its job. No time to buggy that thing
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:13 PM   #184 (permalink)
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My simple cage.....
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Old 04-22-2008, 02:39 PM   #185 (permalink)
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Since there are a bunch of YJ's in here too. Mine is nothing too fancy, shows how easy it is to add on to the stock cage.


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is it safe to do the A pillar like in the pics above, it looks like they have just the one bend and two straight pieces from the B to the A and across the windshield
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looks like that was done for the aesthetics, but I dont think thats too much to worry about
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is it safe to do the A pillar like in the pics above, it looks like they have just the one bend and two straight pieces from the B to the A and across the windshield
Same way the Koz kits and many other add on kits are done. No reason that the spreader welded to the A pillar would be any weaker than a single bent piece.

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is it safe to do the A pillar like in the pics above, it looks like they have just the one bend and two straight pieces from the B to the A and across the windshield
A properly welded joint should be as strong as the base material. The main reason for doing it that way, especially on a TJ, is that the bends real close to the windshield can interfere with the door surrounds and you need to incorporate the windshield bracket into a TJ design as they do not have good windshield support at the base.
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A properly welded joint should be as strong as the base material.
That is true but a bent tube corner will bend when over stressed, a weld will break.
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i wouldn't trust that a pillar without a gusset from the horizontal to the kicker.
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That is true but a bent tube corner will bend when over stressed, a weld will break.
True, but both are failures. In reality, which is what matters, I have never seen one of those joints deflect, at least in one of our kits, when properly welded, and we do include grab handles to act as a gusset for that weld. I think most companies do the same so it is mostly moot.
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i wouldn't trust that a pillar without a gusset from the horizontal to the kicker.

Interesting. Would you trust a spreader attached in the same way with a side to side hoop in the front?

Like this one?
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Interesting. Would you trust a spreader attached in the same way with a side to side hoop in the front?

Like this one?
http://oldjeep.com/images/carb%20013.jpg
Every cage in that picture IMO sucks due to lack of side-to-side triangulation, like many in this thread.

Because this is what can happen;

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Every cage in that picture IMO sucks due to lack of side-to-side triangulation, like many in this thread.
Point taken, lets see a picture of your cage.
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Point taken, lets see a picture of your cage.
Bender is in the box and the tubing is sitting outside. Pictures coming this summer. Currently regearing to 4.56.
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What colour is your Jeep?
Looks like firestone orange
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Point taken, lets see a picture of your cage.
yeah i don't really like any of those cages either. i posted my cage in here a while back. while it doesn't have true diagonal bars, i feel a lot safer in it than most cages i have seen floating around on the trails out here...
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