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Old 07-12-2010, 12:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rock Bouncer Flatty Build

I've started a Flatty and thought it might interest the guys into old iron. I've give a quick run down of a few specs and componets. wheelbase approx 112"-113" and 24" (or less if I can swing it) to the skidplate. I'm running a series II Buick 3800 with a pair of Cummins VGT's off a 6.7 liter engine ( going to make around 500-600hp a built 700r4 and np231 sye'd with 404 Unimogs outfitted with WEPS portal reinforcements and 4 wheel disk using 4 piston Corvette calipers. Wheels and tires are as follows. 43 TLS/SX's on recenter H1 double-beadlocks. frame and rest of chassis will be 1.75 DOM and I am using FOA 14" triple rate coilover in front and 16" FOA's in rear

One of my good friends is helping me with the tube-work...
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You may want to reconsider using a (one) turbo of this size on an engine as small as a 3800, let alone two.

It simple cannot flow enough air to activate that turbo, NOS or not.
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I've done the research, a 60mm compressor (the size of these) will certainly spool fine. The thing you gotta remember is that it's a variable exhaust housing, it will close down to approximately a 3cm housing (WAY SMALL) which will spool. INSTANTLY... They are many Grand National guys running street cars with MUCH more turbo than this on theirs WITHOUT being a VGT, so hang on and enjoy the ride!

And thanks for the interest and btw, I don't want to come across as a know it all cuz I'M NOT
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I hope you dont use that homemade looking manifold in the first pic
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I've done the research, a 60mm compressor (the size of these) will certainly spool fine. The thing you gotta remember is that it's a variable exhaust housing, it will close down to approximately a 3cm housing (WAY SMALL) which will spool. INSTANTLY... They are many Grand National guys running street cars with MUCH more turbo than this on theirs WITHOUT being a VGT, so hang on and enjoy the ride!

And thanks for the interest and btw, I don't want to come across as a know it all cuz I'M NOT
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What kind of programming and inputs will you use to control the vgt operation? I work on those(cummins vgt) almost daily. Curious as to how the aftermarket does it.
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The upper intake is from GM (what they should have used to start with) I too work on Cummins Rigs often. I dot have the CAN protocol so we have used boosted driven actuaries in the past, however Fleece Performance is finishing up a stand alone module to contol these vgt's on any application it's about a month or so from production...and I will used it instead of actuators to have the engine brake side of these turbos as an added feature...( wired on a switch ).


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Little body trimming, cutting and hacking done. Some fitting and checking going on

And starting my driver side turbo setup this week. Ordering my pinion conversions this week too

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Mogs, links, big sx's, turbo'd 3800, flatty. Sounds sweet

231? are you planning to swap to a 6 planetary gearset and widechain to handle the power?

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231? are you planning to swap to a 6 planetary gearset and widechain to handle the power?

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