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Old 11-08-2016, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Artec Superduty Dana 60 TJ beta tester review

This review is to help out some guys out there who have been wanting this Artec Superduty truss to come to fruition. I can tell you Artec did a hell of a job on this and I can't thank them enough!!

I was fortunate enough to be able to be a beta tester for Artecs tj superduty dana 60 front swap kit. I wanted to give a review in hopes people showed even more interest in this very awesome product. Makes it way easier to run with the big boys for sure. Artec has been beyond awesome to work with as they wanted all feedback in order for them to refine the product before releasing the finished product to everyone and in particular Armando Verdugo of Artec has been the main guy for me to contact and pick his brain. I can't think them enough for the chance to be one of the very lucky beta testers. Also gotta give credit to my buddy Joseph Prosise of Baja Texas Offroad for all the hard work!

So I got a front 60 from an 09 f250...scored somewhat cheap and got to cutting everything off of it. Cutting everything is by far the worst part of everything!!! These axles are 35 spline beef throughout and just amazingly beef comparted to even kingpin axles. The hardest part of using them is the little tube provided by the pumpkin being so far over........so in comes ARTEC to the rescue.







I went with the 3 link artec truss option but there is a bolt into stock suspension option.





We got it under the jeep and found out I do need new shocks (not sure what else at moment til I get my new tires). Had a good bit of trouble fitting a top upper 3 link and finally decided on passenger side and redoing the exhaust.



This is where we are at as we had to cycle the suspension on the lift but couldn't do it with the coil springs on. I do have steering to be put on and of course just a ton of loose ends. I need a set of rollers or to go ahead and purchase my 40" tires but just haven't found what I needed. Don't mind the links and joints as these are all temporary in order for time constraints of the beta tester program.







My review.........Artec has hit a home run out of the park with this swap truss!!! Not only is it very sexy looking but it fits great!!! My buddy who did the install said there was minor grinding around pumpkin to close up a 1/4" gap and Artec is already looking into fixing that!!! Like I said Artec is on the ball and doing everything they can to perfect this truss! Their coil buckets are not flat so your coils will not bow as they made it just like factory and the swaybar brackets are beef and you can adjust them to where needed. I already was an Artec fan but let me tell you after this experience I am an artec fanboy, believer and just love the fact that they listened, refined, and have put their heart into this truss!!! Thank you to Artec Industries, Armando Verdugo for the chance for me to finally get my TJ where I dreamed!!

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Old 11-08-2016, 11:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Awesome! We are waiting for the Kingpin Ford Dana 60 TJ kit.. have many of those projects in Baja...
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Artec has been awesome to work with!

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Old 11-12-2016, 07:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Looks like a nice kit
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Old 11-19-2016, 08:13 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Cool

Just ordered mine last night. Went with the Johnny Joint version.

If you don't mind me asking, Do you have any pictures of how the Drivers Side Lower Control Arm bracket is attached to the axle? I'm curious if it is welded to the tube only or if you had to weld to the Casting.

Also, did you pre-heat, post-heat and use NI99 rods when you welded to the cast?

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I don't have a picture at moment I believe but it's all welded to the tubing as all casting is cut out of the way. Plus they give you the bracket that pinches in for the small passenger tube housings. As for welding my buddy migged it and pre and post heated it.

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Old 11-19-2016, 07:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Small update. .



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Old 11-20-2016, 09:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Just ordered mine last night. Went with the Johnny Joint version.

If you don't mind me asking, Do you have any pictures of how the Drivers Side Lower Control Arm bracket is attached to the axle? I'm curious if it is welded to the tube only or if you had to weld to the Casting.

Also, did you pre-heat, post-heat and use NI99 rods when you welded to the cast?

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Welded to the tube. We used MIG for all welding also.
Following Artec's recommendations for welding their truss kits, we did pre and post heating, then wrapped in welding blankets for 12+ hours for a slow cool down.

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Old 11-20-2016, 09:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Small update. .

Which LCA frame side brackets are those and does your tires touch the arms?

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Old 11-20-2016, 11:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Ruff stuff specialties brackets and I dunno...haven't got that far.

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Old 11-20-2016, 02:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Did you consider using the Artec Dual 3 link brackets? If so, why did you use Ruff Stuff?
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Old 11-20-2016, 02:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes I originally bought the artec 3 link integrated brackets [tacked together in my storage ] but they stick out too far to allow link placement I believe cause of my auto Trans and where the superduty pumpkin ends up. Plus we got better geometry and link length with separate brackets. I went Ruff stuff cause they ship pretty quick and I got a few recommendations saying they would fit better than the artec 3 link brackets.

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Old 11-21-2016, 08:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes I originally bought the artec 3 link integrated brackets [tacked together in my storage ] but they stick out too far to allow link placement I believe cause of my auto Trans and where the superduty pumpkin ends up. Plus we got better geometry and link length with separate brackets. I went Ruff stuff cause they ship pretty quick and I got a few recommendations saying they would fit better than the artec 3 link brackets.

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Gotcha. I'm using the Dual 4 link brackets. I like how they tuck the links up inside the frame rails, so no brackets are hanging down. but I'm wondering about more separation/ geometry.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, I am going to need a picture of the lower control arm brackets before I am sold on this. I can't see how it is possible or recommended to cut away all of the casting right at the diff just to get the the tube. People weld on cast all the time no?
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Old 11-22-2016, 04:43 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Your hardly cutting any casting away...lots of photos out there already and it's already been released from Artec. I've seen people cut way more to fit other brackets. Look at the superduty 60 section In gen4x4.

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Old 11-22-2016, 01:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Can't afford high steer....get assist soon too....

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Old 11-22-2016, 01:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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@offroadman83, awesome work. Did you weld the tubes to the center section?

Also, Did you use the stock Track-Bar mounting or did you move it?

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Old 11-22-2016, 01:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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My buddy has done the work...I'm nowhere near his level. I don't know if he welded tubes and we used ruffstuff trackbar kit. I think using stock would be harder and not as good looking. .aesthetically and angle wise.

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I'm with you on that part. I'm debating pushing my axle forward 3-5" in order to get a better approach angle. So mine will have to come off if I go forward with that.
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:57 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If I was going full hydro I'd certainly go forward but just doing assist. Gonna be a street able offroad rig.

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Are the spring mounts kinda cut off on the side towards the C? The JK 1Ton has what looks like full round 6 sided spring mounts. The TJ 1Ton looks like 1/3 of one side was cut off.
Is there a mechanical/install reason for the TJ spring to be partly 'cut' off?
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Old 12-13-2016, 03:01 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I believe its so the springs don't bow out so hard. Everything fits and looks great though. I believe the tj is narrower than jk and that is the reason for the cuts.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Well its a whole lot closer than my last pics. Lots to figure out now as I like how low it is but I am not sure I can keep it there. Currently sitting on stock rear tj coils and the fronts I have no idea what they are, but probably 4 or so inchers. Ended up at 105.5 to 106" wheelbase on the 40s, about 22" to belly. I need brakes and driveshafts now to get it off my damn trailer ugh.....





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Looks great, hoping to do that to my TJ one day. Saving money for one tons.
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Old 02-18-2017, 07:57 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Looks awesome. Im really looking forward to how this comes out.


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