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Old 04-04-2006, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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CJ-5 set up, help me!

OK so i have a 1981 CJ-5 narrowtrac with an amc 20 rear and dana 30 front.
i am going to be running the Full Tractions bolt-on spring over suspension kit with 1-2" lift springs, so total lift, about 6.5-7.5".
i will be running 36x12.50x15 super swamper TSL/SX meats.
the amc 20 will have a truss, it will also be wealded where the axle tubes go into the diff, 1 piece axles, and a detroit.
the 30 will have a detroit, and a truss.
i will also trim the fenders and have double CV driveshafts front and rear.
as far as steering goes, i will have a x over set-up.

give me oppinions on this set-up and what else i could do.

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Old 04-04-2006, 08:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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any thoughts or oppinions????
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Pretty narrow for that much lift, your COG is going to be high. You could accomplish the same tire size with stock height springs (instead of 2" lift) and widen your track with spacers and I think it would work better and be less scary, and still not have to replace your front and rear ends.

Running a detroit in a 30 with 36" tires is also a little iffy. Think about upgrading your u-joints from stock (260's) to 5-760x's and your axles to Chromoly.
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what would i have to do about the steering?
do they make x over kits for the dana 30?
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If you want to go hi-steer (which is the way to go if you want it to really work right), I would go with the Teraflex kit. It uses TRE's.

MORE also makes a kit, but it uses heim joints instead of TRE's which don't work as well for a road and trail jeep, IMO.
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Your going to have to beef up that 30, my freind has 35s and 4.10 in his with a locker and break something within it just about every time he goes out. Once he broke it just pulling into th parking lot of the staging area and another time pulling it onto a trailer.

Of course I seen my dad break a D60 with sup 35sp shafts just pulling it onto a trailer. You never know, could go without an issue, or it could be your worse nightmare. The spring over can be done by just moving the spring perches and such cant it? Do you need the kit? Could save a few dollers for your rubber and spacers.
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if u havent put any money into the axles yet, i would go striaght to waggy, and dont waste money on the stockers, also ur cog is way high, why not go with a bds 4in sua and have no spring wrap issues
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If you want to go hi-steer (which is the way to go if you want it to really work right), I would go with the Teraflex kit. It uses TRE's.

MORE also makes a kit, but it uses heim joints instead of TRE's which don't work as well for a road and trail jeep, IMO.

That Teraflex is only for the Wrangler D30. It WILL NOT work on a CJ D30.
Same thing with the MORE part.
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what do you guys thinj about the full tractions bolt on spring over kit?
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The bolt-on spring over may or may not be a decent kit, but I'd never know since I wouldn't want to take a stock wheelbase and width CJ5 that height.

I ran my CJ5 with 35's and about 3-4" of lift... even that absolutely sucked in any off-camber or other yaw-inducing situation. Usually felt like it wanted to tip just turning street corners. Under no circumstances would I add another two inches to that.

For what its worth, my ultra-cheap CJ5 rebuild was pretty simple... transferred my stocker guts (and outers) into a pair of CJ widetrack axles, sprung under on front waggy springs, fenders trimmed as necessary. Net was ~2.5" lift, +4" wheelbase, +~4" track width, and a MUCH smoother ride with much more stability. Very few catches, almost mind-numbing in its simplicity.

Once you enter the realm of springing over a CJ5 on most any spring, welding on new perches is about the least intensive problem you'll encounter. It pretty much necessitates wider track width, longer wheelbase, and (in the case of your target tire) stronger axles.
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Don't know if I subscribe to the spring under plan 100%, but I definitely would go longer and wider as you suggest. As you pointed out, 5's are just too short and too narrow to lift much.

And SanDiegoCJ, I stand corrected, thanks.
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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thanks guys for all the info.
i think i am just going to keep it where it's at with a 3" lift and 33's.
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Rubicon's 4.5 kit will fit 36's perfect without trimming, and flex pretty good for the amount of arch. This way you dont have to deal with the steering or axle wrap. The setup works pretty good for me.
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