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Old 05-31-2008, 10:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tj gauge cluster problem

I have 1998 tj 4.0 auto and out if the blue my whole gauge cluster quit working everything all the fuses and relays are good as far as I can tell I just thought maybe I was missing something simple.
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Tried that several times
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Check connections on back, check for bad ground.



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This is a common failiure on all 97-99 TJ's. The two connectors on the back need to be checked since they commonly get "loosey".
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does the radio and heater work? I know alot of chrysler products have problems with ignition switches. You turn the key on, and the vehicle will run, but no signal gets sent to the interior stuff to turn on, so the gauges, radio, and heater all are still off. Just a thought
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If it turns out to be a bad cluster, I have one from my '98 TJ 4.0 that you can have.
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I have 1998 tj 4.0 auto and out if the blue my whole gauge cluster quit working everything all the fuses and relays are good as far as I can tell I just thought maybe I was missing something simple.
A girlfriend had the same problem in her 98 TJ, it was a problem in the wiring harness. she drove it for a couple months wacking the dash every time it acted up but eventually had to have it done by the stealership. They said it was a common problem too and I didn't get any info on what it cost or if it was just the connector or the actual wiring. She didn't ask me to look at it.
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Just had this problem on my 99' XJ,the seatbelt,airbag,turnsignal and highbeam lights and dashlights worked but no gauges or odometer or tripmeter.Checked the kickpanel fuse panel and the fuse was o.k.Pulled cluster and cleaned contacts indash and on cluster and still didn't help.Put the idiotlight cluster back in and the idiotlights all worked but still no odometer or tripmeter..I giveup and figured It was going to have the connectors in the dash replaced by the stealership per service bulletin for the late model XJ and TJ's.Took it in and all it was was a 15 amp fuse in the box under the hood,that is unmarked as to what it is for.Small blue fuse middle of the box on the engine side.Check that out, it cost me $28 to find that one out.
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And to think I thought this thread might have some sick new custom gauge cluster worthy of the forum......
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I have fixed lots of them. What you are looking for is the pins on the board loose the solder connection and pop up about .015", losing contact.

pull the cluster and the board. Look closely at the pins where the wiring attaches. You will probably find one, or two that are loose. Push them back down and resolder them and you are good to go.
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Just had this problem on my 99' XJ,the seatbelt,airbag,turnsignal and highbeam lights and dashlights worked but no gauges or odometer or tripmeter.Checked the kickpanel fuse panel and the fuse was o.k.Pulled cluster and cleaned contacts indash and on cluster and still didn't help.Put the idiotlight cluster back in and the idiotlights all worked but still no odometer or tripmeter..I giveup and figured It was going to have the connectors in the dash replaced by the stealership per service bulletin for the late model XJ and TJ's.Took it in and all it was was a 15 amp fuse in the box under the hood,that is unmarked as to what it is for.Small blue fuse middle of the box on the engine side.Check that out, it cost me $28 to find that one out.
Just had the same problem and that was the cause, that god damn little 15 amp fuse. Only cost me a coffee to fix it though lol.
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2000 jeep tj problem

sorry for replying as a post but i'm new and don't know how to make a new post. i have a 2000 jeep tj 4.0 MT. today out of nowhere the gauge cluster stopped working all the lights work but the gauges do not move and as soon as this happens the radio wont turn on and the dome light stopped working but the heater still works and the a/c still works the jeep also still runs fine i checked all fuses under the hood and behind the glove box with a multi meter all are fine i checked the ground wires under the hood and in the dash all are fine i checked the volts in the wires going to the dome light they have no power as well as no power to the radio i also checked the pins in the cluster connectors all are tight i'm thinking maybe ignition switch but before i do anything else i want to ask for some help. any reply is helpful thanks
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And to think I thought this thread might have some sick new custom gauge cluster worthy of the forum......
Same here. Then I scrolled through looking for the standard Pirate answers. Apparently even hardcore section is now gone soft.
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sorry for replying as a post but i'm new and don't know how to make a new post. i have a 2000 jeep tj 4.0 MT. today out of nowhere the gauge cluster stopped working all the lights work but the gauges do not move and as soon as this happens the radio wont turn on and the dome light stopped working but the heater still works and the a/c still works the jeep also still runs fine i checked all fuses under the hood and behind the glove box with a multi meter all are fine i checked the ground wires under the hood and in the dash all are fine i checked the volts in the wires going to the dome light they have no power as well as no power to the radio i also checked the pins in the cluster connectors all are tight i'm thinking maybe ignition switch but before i do anything else i want to ask for some help. any reply is helpful thanks
Nick-TJ, I have the same exact problem. Did you find a solution yet?
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Same here. Then I scrolled through looking for the standard Pirate answers. Apparently even hardcore section is now gone soft.
Pretty funny considering all the posts you were reading happen to be 8 years old.
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Pretty funny considering all the posts you were reading happen to be 8 years old.
So since dnztzhellfire and you feel this isn't high tech, and given I have tried search strings of TJ gauges, TJ gauge problems, TJ gauges not working, TJ gauges radio, and a dozen other combinations with little luck. Is there a more efficient way to search forum history than hoping the site search box (or google) returns a relevant result?

How bout copping a guy a break and helping out. I have checked gauge connections, grouds, and I have no fuse problems.

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So since dnztzhellfire and you feel this isn't high tech, and given I have tried search strings of TJ gauges, TJ gauge problems, TJ gauges not working, TJ gauges radio, and a dozen other combinations with little luck. Is there a more efficient way to search forum history than hoping the site search box (or google) returns a relevant result?

How bout copping a guy a break and helping out. I have checked gauge connections, grouds, and I have no fuse problems.

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I'm making fun of him because he says "pirate went soft" when this thread is 8 years old.
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I worked as a dealer tech for 18 years, from 1990-2008. Dieing clusters is a common problem as stated earlier in this old thread.

The Dealership fix was in the form of a TSB (technical service bulletin). The repair was to remove the cluster, scrape off the black corrosion you will find on the contacts of the pins,c lean them with contact cleaner, then replace a connector with an updated one with more bite on the pins. Not sure of the TSB number or the part number of the repair connector. Maybe the dealership will help look up the TSB and get you a new connector, if they are still available. A loose pin on the cluster circuit with a bad solder joint would certainly have the same effect.

What happens is the cluster loses it's communication with the engine controller, which supplies all the data for the cluster gauges. Same basic cluster in XJ's and TJ's, they both will have the problem. If you have a good scan tool that can read the cluster, you will find communications error code stored in it.

If other things like the dome lights, turn signal indicators and other accessories also stop running, then look to the fuse issue talked about earlier.

Hope this helps!
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