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Old 06-24-2009, 01:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey ya'll, I just want some opinions on what you would do in my situation..

Well... I live in Jersey and have a vehicle inspection coming soon.
They do not like my YJ SOA an on 35's.

I already went to the station to find out what I would need to do to pass.
They said, obviously full coverage of your tires, good steering, no spacers, and 1 mofawking inch lower!! Max height for a Jeep is 33" to the bottom of the door. I'm at 34".

SSooo, my steering is good to go, and I'm prolly gonna borrow some 33s from a friend to get the correct height.
But, I am afraid of the tilt test because his wheels have 4.5" of backspacing, while mine have 3.25" + 2" spacers...

Also, for tire coverage, I do not wanna buy some big ass plastic wings because they will look like shit and most likely get messed up.
So my thought is for tube fenders.

I'm more than capable of welding them all up, but as of now I am a full time mechanical engineering student, and my inspection is in one month.. So not much time for that.

My choices are the TNTCustoms 4.5" tube fenders, or MetalCloaks 4" tube fenders.


Is there any way I could lose 1" without changing tires?
What would you recommend for tire coverage?
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Borrow or buy some small decent tires on shitty wheels for rollers, take it to the station and get the sticker....then change it back...
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You think I'll pass the tilt test with stock backspacing and small tires with SOA?
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ehh...whats a tilt test?
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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A stupid New Jersey thing ya gotta do if you're lifted.
You drive one side of your truck on a little ramp thing and they measure the weight under the other tires to see how stable you are.
Dumb stuff.
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A stupid New Jersey thing ya gotta do if you're lifted.
You drive one side of your truck on a little ramp thing and they measure the weight under the other tires to see how stable you are.
Dumb stuff.
Humm?
Never heard of such a thing, sounds interesting; anyone got a photo? and the spec? (how high & weight required)

Sure you won't pass? You're not narrow track. Maybe add some spacers?

Humm, what if you roll it over on the test? Who is liable?

Sorry nothing usefull to add.
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Old 06-24-2009, 04:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Spacers are not legal for the test.
And the ramp is not tall enough to roll. Just a little higher than a car ramp.

So any advice on the tube fenders?
Or a way to lower myself 1"?
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put on some baby shackles for the test. if you disconnect your sway bar you should be golden on the tilt test.
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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My brother went through this test with his 4.5" of lift and 32" tires on his xj. The test is a two part test; first they bring the vehicle onto a lift and check every nut and bolt. They check for proper torque, angles, and of coarse the height of certain areas. Make sure you have mud flaps on all 4 corner that cover half the tires. My brother failed and went to pep boys and got cheap ones and screwed them for a quick fix. After you past that section they attach and clamp over your front bumper and the guy drives the vehicle on a small cement ramp that is no taller than 2ft. They check weights before on all four tires, then on the two tires on the ground and then compare if you stable. It can be a pain in the ass. Be careful with soa as the suspension did not come from the factory like that, it depends on the inspector. They give another sticker that goes next to your other inspection sticker. On that sticker it list all modifications made, heights, of bumpers, tires, etc. I heard you can tickets for anything that was changed from what the sticker states.
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To the government of the state of New Jersey, this is an appropriate thing to do. Unbelievable!
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yea, tell me about.
If you're thinking about it, DO NOT MOVE TO JERSEY!

Good idea with the smaller shackles, I'll see what I can do about that.

Any other ways to drop 1"? Airing down to 15 psi actually gives me 1/2", but I'm not sure that will fly.

Do you think it would be worth it to buy the tube fenders? They would give me proper tire coverage with the flare and not look like wings. They also would not just be for the test, obviously..
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i building a cj 8 from a 1980 cj7. in nj if the vehicle is over 25 years it can regestered as historical vehicle. that means self inspection. you have to give a picture of the vehicle, but that can done with another picture of a similiar stock vehicle. my plan is 5.3/4l60,atlas, 60/14 and soa with 40s. police can not say anything as it registered as historical. all yj's are not 25 years, but something to think about in a couple of years.
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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For Tire coverage,

Make you some "flares", Not sure theres a reg on what material they have to be made of. Just find a material at the hardware, Who cares what it looks like, as long as it passes, They can't fail it, because its ugly.

Attach them to your jeep for the test, then remove them after wards.
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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For Tire coverage,

Make you some "flares", Not sure theres a reg on what material they have to be made of. Just find a material at the hardware, Who cares what it looks like, as long as it passes, They can't fail it, because its ugly.

Attach them to your jeep for the test, then remove them after wards.
most states , if you get caught changing your tires back, removing mud flaps, etc. etc. you will end up paying more for in the long run. first is the fines, then the tow bill, they will tow you shit for being illegal. i see it all the time where i live.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
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most states , if you get caught changing your tires back, removing mud flaps, etc. etc. you will end up paying more for in the long run. first is the fines, then the tow bill, they will tow you shit for being illegal. i see it all the time where i live.
Well,

Where I live as long as we have tires its good. Gotta love the south.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
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That makes it sound like you would have to get a new inspection every time you buy new tires...?

That's just asinine. Of course, it is Jersey
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Don't have to deal with any of that BS in Az other than emisions testing every other year and yes get the tube finders
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:44 AM   #19 (permalink)
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wow you guys get the shaft. Here in NH its 30" from under the frame where the bumper mounts. that puts the bottom of my door at like 10 or 12 more then that.
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:55 AM   #20 (permalink)
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get some stock rollers off craigslist. get some garden edging and make your own flares.
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I never understood the 33" from the bottom of the doors... What if one were to alter their door opening, and had a lower 'bottom of the door?' Hmmm.

I don't know where you live in Jersey, but I don't think that the inspection station on Wrangleboro Road in Egg Harbor Township uses the ramp... I never saw a ramp, but I could be wrong. Now I only have 32's on my CJ, and no SOA, but they only measured the door and sent me on my way (and I have big 'ol oversized shackles in the front)... If you go on a Saturday morning first thing (7am), you might get some gearhead to slip you through before his supervisor gets there...

Or, since the inspection is every two years, maybe you need to devote a weekend to convert everthing back to stock, pass inspection, then put it all back again. Jersey is indeed a frustrating state to live in. Maybe we should all pitch in for a post office box in Delaware or something to use as our address...
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:37 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Maybe we should all pitch in for a post office box in Delaware or something to use as our address...
Works here,

Our inspection is not so bad, But my 97 is the OBD test, But if I lived up in the mountains it would be only a safety inspection. We lived there when my wife was at App State.

So when we moved I just changed my mailing address with the DMV on my jeep and keep the main address the same (all this is done on there web site). Been over 5 years and still working.
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When I was living in San Diego driving a beat to shit XJ, I used a Florida PO box and had FL tags. No one ever called me on it.
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Buy flares.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/12510_501_07.htm




I got mine for $149 but it was a mistake they changed right after my order LOL.
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Buy flares.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/12510_501_07.htm




I got mine for $149 but it was a mistake they changed right after my order LOL.
You can buy a set of Omix-eda TJ flares for 120 bucks from 4wd hardware. They are slightly more brittle then the stock 400 dollar ones, meaning if you hit a tree they will crack but its a cheap fix if you need flares.
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