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Old 07-19-2011, 05:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1980 CJ7 first Jeep build

Bought a Jeep this morning, paid 800 bucks for it and agreed to weld a hitch on a trailer for the PO.

These are the pics from the Craigs List add.









I drug it home, cleaned it out, bolted the seat back in.





The motor wasn't wanting to turn over, so I hooked it back up to my friends dodge, drug it down the street popped the clutch and it started turning over.

I changed the oil, threw a new Optima Yellow Top in it, and it lit right off. Got to drive it up and down the street a couple of times. Now I just need to make it street legal.

I ordered a whole bunch of goodies, got a new pair of hood hinges, latches, head lights and buckets, tail lights, and a few other goodies.

Should have it road ready next week some time.
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Did the guy say why he had those rear seats in like that? If he hated passengers in the rear of the jeep it would of been much easier to just remove the seats.




On a brighter nope Enjoy the CJ and bringing it back to life!
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I wish jeeps around here were that clean. For that price you might as well plan on buying a new tub. Good luck i kinda dug the seats up high.
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Did the guy say why he had those rear seats in like that? If he hated passengers in the rear of the jeep it would of been much easier to just remove the seats.




On a brighter nope Enjoy the CJ and bringing it back to life!
The seat in the back is for hunting, the idea being you and a buddy drive it out somewhere, then climb up in the back seat and wait for something to come strolling by and shoot it.

Not very sporting if you ask me.

I have been enjoying driving the jeep up and down the street getting it all shook down, looking for what needs to be replaced.

Makes me feel like John Wayne in Hatari driving it around with the windshield down.
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I wish jeeps around here were that clean. For that price you might as well plan on buying a new tub. Good luck i kinda dug the seats up high.
This tub is actually in pretty fair shape, the front clip is hammered, transmission wants to pop out of gear, the motor runs like a top though, it needs a tuneup, but sounds solid.

I have a lot to do to it, but hopefully will have it street legal tomorrow.
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Did the guy say why he had those rear seats in like that? If he hated passengers in the rear of the jeep it would of been much easier to just remove the seats.




On a brighter nope Enjoy the CJ and bringing it back to life!
I thought maybe Hightower owned it

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Nice bro, Motor, Trans, t-case, Axles? Good luck with it, nothing like a CJ!

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Nice find. I know your not close to thinking about this yet, but when you start thinking lift, tires and wheels, keep the cog low. You can always highline the body and run 35's with little to no lift. It'll be much more fun and stable that way.
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I believe the front is a dana 30, and the rear is an AMC 20, I am going to guess with 3.42 gears maybe 3.07's it is not hard to do 15-20 mph in 1st gear, and even in 4 low it is pretty fast.

The transmission is a 4 speed, not sure what model it is, but the pattern is left and forward for reverse, then the standard H pattern for 1 - 4.

Right now I am working on plans for it, not totally sure what I want to do yet.

I am going to swap in a NV4500, just not sure what engine I want. The Jeep has a Dana 300. I will rebuild it.

The I-6 runs real strong and sounds good other than an exhaust leak. Well and a few oil leaks, but that is pretty typical for a 30 year old motor.

I also have a good running Chevy 350 it is a 90 model TBI motor, damn thing runs like a top.

I have also been thinking about a Cummins 4BT but with the way id set it up with the intercooler and everything, you are talking about a lot of fab work and time.

Where I am stuck is the I-6 runs very well, but I am not sure if it will have enough power to do what I want seeing as how there will be a lot of time this Jeep spends pulling a trailer.

For tires and lift, I am only going to run either 33's or 35's nothing too big, I am going to do a shackle reversal and possibly do a spring over conversion.

For the rear axle, I am going to build a ford 9" with a set of Dana 44 6 lug front hubs and spindles on the front end thus making it a full floater. I am also going to use a Currie ENT high pinion pumpkin, 4.10 gears and an ARB air locker.

On the front axle I am a bit more perplexed, I could install a waggy dana 44, put a locker in it, and call it good, or I may go for a dana 60. I am thinking about getting a Dynatrac pumpkin and putting the Spidertrax knuckles on it and running an ARB locker in it as well, but you are talking a 6-8,000.00 axle by the time it is finished. Although it would be very cool.

It certainly is leaving me a lot to think about. I have a few weeks to weigh my options. I may wind up just sticking a 44 in it for the time being and then upgrade to a 60 later. But it would be nice to get the good front axle under it ASAP, id really like to have the selectable locker, but if I am going to eventually put the 60 under the front, I don't want to spend the money putting one in the 44.

Another thing I am considering is getting a Throttle Down Customs frame, it can get me the right motor and tranny mounts, the shackle reversal, and a beefy frame at a pretty reasonable price.

I am considering that I could have my drive-train completely assembled and ready to run before I even start taking my Jeep apart this way. Then all I would have to do is pull the tub off, strip it, fix it up clean it up mod a few things how I want them, and then paint it and throw it back together.

Doing this may be the fastest route possible.

The plan and project is going to continue to grow and evolve, we will see what happens. Right now I am just not sure if I want to stick with the stock frame or not.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Also here are a few pics from tonight.





I finally got the Jeep street legal today, so tonight I loaded up my girlfriend...

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And we went down to subway, got some sandwiches then drove down to one of the T-heads and watched the sun set over Corpus Christi. ( 2747'33.11"N 9723'20.62"W ) It was really nice especially since it has been really hot here, it felt good cruising with no top or doors.

This will be one of the last times we get to do this too, pretty soon we will be moving to Montana where I am from, then next summer we will probably wind up in Alaska.

We will see how it goes.
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Where in MT you from? I was just stationed in AK for 3 years, but am from Great Falls, MT.
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Where in MT you from? I was just stationed in AK for 3 years, but am from Great Falls, MT.
I grew up in the Bozeman area.
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Cool. I love that area, and Bridger has some awesome snowboarding. I leave for Afganistan next week and this thread will hopefully give me a little reading material throughout my deployment. Keep posting up, and have fun with it. Good luck!
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Cool. I love that area, and Bridger has some awesome snowboarding. I leave for Afganistan next week and this thread will hopefully give me a little reading material throughout my deployment. Keep posting up, and have fun with it. Good luck!
I am not much for snow boarding, or skiing, but you put me on a snow machine or in a good 4x4 and I'm hell on wheels and happier than a pig in shit!

Be safe over in the stan. I am a Navy vet myself. you get back hit me up and I will drag you out and show you some of Montana's wild side.
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If your only planing on 33s or 35s a 44 up front will be fine and if you put one peice shafts in the AMC 20 it will hold up fine (even with a V8, a buddy of mine has a 360 in his 82 CJ7 with that set up and its fine). if you keep the 258 id put a 4.0 head on it and just keep the 30 up front and regear.

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If your only planing on 33s or 35s a 44 up front will be fine and if you put one peice shafts in the AMC 20 it will hold up fine (even with a V8, a buddy of mine has a 360 in his 82 CJ7 with that set up and its fine). if you keep the 258 id put a 4.0 head on it and just keep the 30 up front and regear.

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I have decided to go with the 258, I am going to get a ported and polished 4.0 head, use the Howell fuel injection, run a header and roller rockers with some forged pistons and a mild cam with a good mid range power curve.

I know for sure the dana 30 will not hold up, in 1/2 ton trucks I have broken several 44's It wont take but 1 trip up into the mountains where I am pushing snow with the hood.

Also on the rear I am going with the 9" because I like the high pinion aspect, I will be seeing a lot of highway time pulling a small camper when I go to Alaska, so I don't want real steep driveline angles.
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Seeing as how this is my first Jeep project, I have been doing a ton of reading and research. I think I have a pretty solid plan down.

The previous owner for what ever reason cut the stock tube out of the front of the frame and welded a piece of pipe in its place, in doing so they cut off the first couple of inches of the frame.

The solution I have come up with is to make 2 saddles out of 2x4" box tube and weld them on, then I will have a location to mount the new front bumper I am building and the winch.

The winch I have is a Warn 12 series Industrial 12v.



The plan is to build a bumper from 3x6 1/4" wall box tube and some 1/4" plate. Here is my AutoCAD rendering.



Also included are a set of PIAA 40 series driving lights.

I am also considering adding 6" oval led lights to each end of the bumper since my turn signals will be somewhat obscured by the winch.

There is a tropical storm in the weather forcast for this weekend, so I wont be getting much done, hopefully I will be able to get the bumper knocked out in the next couple of weeks.

Other issues I have to contend with, one of the leaf springs on the front is bent, so I am going to get a M.O.R.E. shackle reversal and run YJ springs.

As well when it is all tore apart I am going to pick up a Waggy Dana 44 and get it stuffed in the front, and this will include a steering box relocate kit moving it an inch forward, and it will beef up the box mount as well.

I know some people love to rag on them but I am going to run the Teraflex revolver shackles in the rear and see how they work.

On the front I am going to run a 1" lift YJ spring and will pick up another 2 1/2" from the shackle reversal kit.

This will give me 3 1/2" of lift, and will allow me to run the BF Goodrich 33x11.5R15 mud terrains that I want.

Gears will be 4.10, right now im stuffing a Waggy Dana 44 under the back, and to lift it I will run 2 1/2" YJ springs in the rear as well with new hanger I am building that will move the mount 2" down. this will give me the same 3 1/2" lift in the rear as well.

Then I am going to worry about building some taller shock towers, not sure what shocks I will be running yet.

As well I will be rebuilding a NV4500 that I have and installing it behind the 258 and when I do so I will rebuild the Dana 300 with the Novak 32 spline kit to make it mate up.

Then I have a shop here that I will have build drive shafts for it, and I will have it back up and running.

I am not sure if I will rebuild the motor here in Texas, or wait till after I move, the plan is though to rebuild the 258 with a 4.0 head, EFI and a header.

Right now the motor runs really damn good aside from some oil leaks, those are fixable though.

I am getting pretty excited about it though because it is coming together pretty fast.
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Well after a lot of careful thought and consideration, I have decided to put my 1990 Chevy 350 in the Jeep. it is a LO5 motor that makes 210 hp and 300 Ft/lbs of torque. I will run it with the TBI injection, and I am going to use the Painless Wiring harness to hook it all up. With the move to Alaska I will have little use for the AC pump, so I am considering options to put an engine driven air compressor in its location if anyone has any ideas here id love to hear them.

I also have a set of Vortec heads that when I rebuild the motor will find their way onto it as well as a roller cam and a chip. But for right now I am going to run this motor and be happy with it because it runs well.

As it turns out my old advance adapters bellhousing to allow me to run a NV4500 in my old 72 chevy will allow me to run the stock jeep clutch, so it is a win for me all the way around.

This week I am going to just spend some time cleaning the motor and the accessory drive up, getting everything painted because it is all corroded up pretty good.

In a few weeks time I am going to have the NV4500 rebuilt, and rebuild the Dana 300 myself with a new input shaft that will allow it to mate to the NV4500, as well going to put a twin stick kit on it.

Also today I found out via a MRI that I have a badly bulging disc in my back from a car accident I was in on July 2nd, I have been out of work since then, not sure how long it will be before I can go back to work, right now I am waiting to see.

Kind of slowing me down, it is hard when you are used to making upwards of 65.00 an hour to nothing, I am waiting on an insurance claim trying not to spend money. I am hoping some time in the next few weeks to be cleared by the doctor to go back to work. Right now we are waiting for some ligaments to heal, which is happening, I am feeling a lot better.

Hopefully pretty quick here this will all get settled up, I will get paid for the lost wages and I can get back to work. One of the things that is certain is I am going to buy a Throttle down Customs Frame as soon as I can get my CJ5 sold.

I am going to order the frame setup for the YJ springs and a shackle reversal, then I will build my custom front bumper, I will then get the engine and tranny mounted, as well as the axles and everything else, then I will tear the jeep down, strip the tub, fix the rust, and spray it the Khakis sand color again. As well found some bed liner in that color, so I will be painting the under side of the tub and in the inside with it.

Should make for a pretty damn good winter project.
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Figured I should post a few pics of the CJ5 that I am robbing a lot of stuff for this Jeep off of.





Next week I am going to swap the lift tires and axles over to the CJ7, I traded a wire feed welder for the CJ5, it is a nice enough jeep, but the problem is I am 6'1" and 265 lbs, I just don't fit in the CJ5.

As well I am moving the whole front clip over and the rear flares.

The cool thing is the tires on the CJ5 are brand new, and by brand new I mean they still have the stubbies on them.



And I also got a spare.



I am really looking forward to getting everything moved over and getting the Jeep painted.
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Well haven't done much for a while now, just been saving money and collecting parts.

I just picked up a hard top and doors, the hard top is from a YJ need to see if I can find a CJ back hatch for it.

I just ordered a bunch of goodies too, got some Rancho 2.5" lift YJ springs for the front, A More Shackle reversal, some RS-5000's, some 88 F-350 front shock hangers, and a set of Old Man Emu greaseable shackles.

Hopefully this weekend I am getting a 78 Waggy for the Dana 44's right now they have 3.07's in em, but it will actually be better for mileage until I get the NV4500 in it.

As soon as Brown Santana shows up with it, I am going to get to work on it, trying to have it ready by November 1st so I can hit the road for the big move to Alaska.
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Shackle reverse is the suxxor for climbing with a short wheelbase. When you get on an incline, the the pinion will dive down and cause driveline issues. It rides better on the high speed stuff, but that is the only pro to a Shackle reverse on a short wheelbase rig.
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Shackle reverse is the suxxor for climbing with a short wheelbase. When you get on an incline, the the pinion will dive down and cause driveline issues. It rides better on the high speed stuff, but that is the only pro to a Shackle reverse on a short wheelbase rig.
I am fixing to make a 4300 mile trip moving to Alaska.

After that the rig is going to serve as my daily driver.

This thing is not going to be a rock rig, it is a trail capable rig that I can cout on to get me home every day.

It is going to have 4" of lift and 33's it isn't going to have the drive line issues you run into with a rig that has been lifted 6" or more.

When I get into wanting to hit some more agressive terrain, I am going to build a tube frame rig that has coil overs and a 3 or 4 link on the front and rear.
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Well haven't done much for a while now, just been saving money and collecting parts.

I just picked up a hard top and doors, the hard top is from a YJ need to see if I can find a CJ back hatch for it.

I just ordered a bunch of goodies too, got some Rancho 2.5" lift YJ springs for the front, A More Shackle reversal, some RS-5000's, some 88 F-350 front shock hangers, and a set of Old Man Emu greaseable shackles.

Hopefully this weekend I am getting a 78 Waggy for the Dana 44's right now they have 3.07's in em, but it will actually be better for mileage until I get the NV4500 in it.

As soon as Brown Santana shows up with it, I am going to get to work on it, trying to have it ready by November 1st so I can hit the road for the big move to Alaska.
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Well time for an update. I have been collecting more stuff for the jeep.



I picked up this 79 waggy, it has Dana 44's with 3.54's a recently rebuilt 304 that is pretty healthy, and a T-18 trans with a Dana 20.

I am going to install it all in my CJ for now, and later the Dana 300 will go back in attached to a NV4500.



Here is a shot of all the jeep stuff, my welding rig, and my 72 Chevy Cummins project.

Funny thing is, everything runs and drives except for the 72 which is a work in progress.

I also really love the wheels that came on the Waggy, I have always been a fan of the old turbines, I am going to get them cleaned up and put the 33's off of the green jeep on them. I think it is going to look pretty sharp.
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Ride height before:



After!



Been working my butt off this weekend. I don't have the front suspension all the way back together yet, but it is getting closer.

All I have left is hooking up the power steering hoses, installing the new shock towers, sway bar disconnects, steering shaft and brake lines, and I can move on to the rear.

Hoping by the end of the week to be driving it!

Oh yeah, doing this in a driveway in the Texas heat sucks! I cant wait to hit the road to Alaska!
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