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Old 07-26-2011, 10:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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cj5 tub removal with no floor left

hi im john a newbie, just getting started with my 77 cj5 restoration, any good tips out there for removing a tub that has no front floor. can i weld square tube at the bottom of the door from the fire wall back to keep it from foldding? I was thinking of putting cross braces to each body mount and putting the floor over top. wut yall think?
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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if you want you could dothat just tack some metal in place to keep it ridgid when you take it off def leave the rollbar in to help keep it ridgid.
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Old 07-27-2011, 08:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I removed a tub off of my cj5 that was pretty much gone about 6 months ago. I have another tub that I will be putting back on, so I wasn't exactly careful, and I will say that after all the prying and pushing and sliding, it was still in one piece off of the frame. I did not do any bracing at all to the tub.

If I was trying to save the tub I probably would of braced it up, but it did not fold up at all.

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Old 07-27-2011, 09:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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thanks smokin but 4door5speed how do you put up pics and ill show you my prob. when i rolled it off the trailer the frame was so rotted it started to fold like a taco and put a light wrinkle in both sides at the door opening.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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so wheres my pic?
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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http://s1189.photobucket.com/albums/...t=untitled.jpg
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Old 07-28-2011, 03:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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WOW!! whats the rest of the tub look like? it might be time to scrap er
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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http://s1189.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent%3Dcj.jpg the entire tub has new metal except firewall which is still solid. the rear floor, wheel tubs and all of the outside is fresh with one thin coat of paint. if you look at the previous link click previous pic. all sides look like pic. thanks
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:19 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I hate to say it but if the frame was folding the body is most likely already twisted. Before you remove to tub make sure that the frame is back to where it needs to be. Ive done a few jeep restos. And the floor isnt a big deal id be more concerned about the frame.

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Old 07-29-2011, 08:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i understand what your saying there, it looks like it "hinged" if that makes sense. i planned on jacking it up untill the rear was level before bracing it. any other ideas on how to be sure its straight before its pulled. i really dont want to start all over since the rest of the tub is rust free and new. thanks
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You can measure from corner to corner in an x pattern to ensure it didnt flex back and forth. as for up and down flex put a straight piece of on the inside of the tub on both side and make sure they measure the same to the floor (or where the floor was ) and just make them even.

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Old 07-31-2011, 08:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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update....im saddened to report i ruined both side panels and realized whoever put them in loved seam sealer and used way too few rivets. i just hope after they are removed i can hammer them out and reinstall them. will post pics later
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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That tub doesn't look to bad to me, but it's hard to tell. My first cj5 was a lot worse before I started it. I like the color, that's the color I went with one mine. Best of luck.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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thanks for your support, it buckled at the door opening and the wheel well but i m going to pull both panels and hammer them out. I already removed the firewall so i figure i can mount the rear tub on my fresh frame and work my way forward. ill post more pics but gotta clean first cause i cant even walk thru my garage.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I posted some new pics of what happened and where im at. i definatly have a mess to clean up but i gotta keep at it.... http://s1189.photobucket.com/albums/...t=untitled.jpg
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your a better man than most...... alot of people would have brought that to a scrap yard...... all i can tell you from helping a buddy of mine with his race car is just go to home depot buy some angle iron and brace everything ... you will never have too many braces..... best of luck
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:47 PM   #18 (permalink)
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. update....im saddened to report i ruined both side panels and realized whoever put them in loved seam sealer and used way too few rivets. i just hope after they are removed i can hammer them out and reinstall them. will post pics later

What happened? Looks like you tried lifting it with a strap? Also did you cut your frame in half? I viewing on a iphone so i could be wrong.
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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sorry. i didnt look at all the pics. rest does look good but that krinkle looks tough. time to link the rear and make yourself a juggy!!
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:09 PM   #20 (permalink)
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you have a lot of work ahead of you. personally, i would look for another tub. good luck.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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the frame was so rotted i stood on it after pulling the body and it hit the floor. i found rot in the front so i purchased a complete 1979 cj5 chassis with power steering, front disc, and manual warn lockouts. my new frame has one hole the size of a quarter so i bought it and some decent fenders for $350.
I did try to pull the body with a strap and found out the brand new side panels were only riveted in 3 places on each side the rest was seam sealer. i just hope i can remove them ,body work them back out and reinstall but weld them to the rest of the tub this time. thanks
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:09 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Dude, buy a new tub and be done with it. Buy the time you pay for the sheetmetal, or patch panels you can get a new tub. Find a jeep wrecker in your area. You should be able to get one for less than $1000.
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