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Old 12-31-2011, 10:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well I've started this post before, but have changed direction so many times I just decided to start over and finally start my thread and build with pictures.

Currently I have a frame and tub sitting on the garage floor.
Chevy front dana 44 housing narrowed with Ford outers. No gears or lockers yet.
Ford rear dana 60 narrowed and converted to 35 spline. No gears or lockers yet.
Buick 225 V6
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Dana 300 with twin sticks
35 " BFG's
Saginaw steering box
Frame Stretched 12"
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Any advise is always appreciated.

I will start posting pics once I get it out of the garage and get working.
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Old 12-31-2011, 11:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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In (to watch). Any reason you can't remove the VIN tag from the frame and put it on a new frame? With a Saginaw swap, would you even be able to see the stock tag? (I thought it was located right where the box goes on the MB's -- not sure about gpw though).
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I thought about that but wasn't sure if the CHP officer signing it off would notice? I just finished a bike and took it to them, and he was very thorough. I figured I'd just not risk it, and hope the frame holds up. Thanks for the interest I hope to get started soon.
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Ive got a 42 GPW with saginaw steering and the frame stamp is easily visible. There isnt a tag like the MBs, its stamped into the top of the frame in the engine bay. And the serial number is on the dash data plate too. I have yet to have mine registered though, but do have the matching data plate for the frame, but its not the original engine.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Here are a couple pics of the project getting started:

Gonna start torching off the excess, and prep it for boxing it in.

Front HP 44 Rear 60

Took the rear in today to get narrowed to 59" and converted to 35 spline. Waiting to see if the HP 44 is gonna clear everything.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've been kicking around the idea of re-tubing my Ford HP44 to be passenger drop, but I was told there might be a problem with the driveline hitting my starter and bellhousing when articulated.
Has anyone ever ran into this problem?
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Just got the 60 finished. 65" wide now wms-wms, 35 spline, and disk brakes.

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Old 01-28-2012, 08:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Anyone know of a place where I could find some affordable 8 lug 15" steel wheels?
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:18 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Those might work. It looks like there is a couple different options too. I Like the backspacing. Thanks for the info.
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Still need to get the front narrowed, but at least I can see the width with the 60 done. Gonna be perfect with some 35's just needs to be stretched to give me some leg room.


Looks a lot better with all that BS cut off the frame.
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you might find some info in this thread---

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also there's no reason for the jeep to be inspected by the CHP, but enlighten me to why you think it does??? ...chris
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you might find some info in this thread---

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1004065

also there's no reason for the jeep to be inspected by the CHP, but enlighten me to why you think it does??? ...chris

Even if I have no registration or plates? I imagine DMV won't issue me tags or plates for a 70 year old jeep that was sitting in a field with no record of it's history. I could be wrong, but they have never made it easy for me in the past. If they do decide to make me get an inspection at least I have the original stamping in the frame to prove it's legit. I've never delt with a rig this old, so I could be totally wrong. Worse case, I have fun with it for 5 or 6 years then build a new frame. What fun would it be if I didn't have to tear it all the way back down? I've read a lot of threads and seen a lot of rigs and some boxed in original frames crack and some don't. Being that I want my rig to be streetable, good little hunting rig, and make it through fordyce and home, so it might not get the stress that it would if it was a wheeler only. I'm always open to suggestions though. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
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also there's no reason for the jeep to be inspected by the CHP, but enlighten me to why you think it does??? ...chris
By the way, your rig's coming along good. I can't wait till I get a little further along because you have some good ideas.
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if the frame and body have vin numbers you do a lien sale for new paper work in your name. i have done this several times thur a private dmv service here in the hi desert. its to easy to hand the job off to karen than go to the dmv. the vin numbers have to be varified by somebody thats certified for vin varification, chp, dmv, or a private service. junk yards and mechanics do this all the time and can tell you who to use or you can do it yourself. if you go to the chp you can have a new vin issued for it but i would get the paper fixed before you go any farther. all they need to see is the frame and body, nothing else(hint hint).
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ok I see what you're up against with the DMV....

wilez5150 great info there.....chris
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if the frame and body have vin numbers you do a lien sale for new paper work in your name. i have done this several times thur a private dmv service here in the hi desert. its to easy to hand the job off to karen than go to the dmv. the vin numbers have to be varified by somebody thats certified for vin varification, chp, dmv, or a private service. junk yards and mechanics do this all the time and can tell you who to use or you can do it yourself. if you go to the chp you can have a new vin issued for it but i would get the paper fixed before you go any farther. all they need to see is the frame and body, nothing else(hint hint).
Thank you so much. This is great information. I will start on that now.
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Well the 44 went into the shop this week. Gonna swap the HP 44 housing for a chevy housing so I can get the passenger drop. But after it's narrowed I am going to have the Ford knuckles put on it so I get the best of both. I was looking forward to a High Pinion but if I swaped it to pass drop than it would have interfered with my starter and bellhousing.

With some helpful info from everyone I will now be getting started on a box tube frame also.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well it's taken a while, but finally a little more progress.

Out with the old, in with the new. I tried to keep the original frame, but I figured I'd listen to everyone's advice since you all went through it. The front axle is now done too. Not geared or locked, just narrowed the Chevy housing and added Ford knuckles.


Frame stretched 12"
It's probably gonna be a while till I can make a whole lot more major progress.
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aw that brings back memories--good to see you built a new frame--very smart....
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I'm glad I got that advise before I went through all the effort to box in the frame. It's good to learn from others mistakes. I'm sure I'll make enough during this project so every one that I can avoid is a bonus.
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Here is the small amount of progress so far. Axles under it. Lining up the tub for rear body mounts before I cut it in half. Slowly just getting the body set so I can start adjusting for the drivetrain.
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Lookin good!!! Another stretched flatty!!! I like it. Good job on the frame.
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Lookin good!!! Another stretched flatty!!! I like it. Good job on the frame.
Thanks 2003 Ram. It's a slow moving project right now. I hope to get the motor mounts, tranny mounts, and body mounts all tacked on soon so I can start cutting and aligning the body. I'll post pics as soon as progress picks up again.
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Since you live not too far from me.. who did your axle work? I'm gonna be shopping for axles for my flatty project soon and will need a source to cut them down. Thanks
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