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Old 02-27-2014, 10:27 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Aren't you supposed to be at work?....No bull on the temps, I am going through lots of BBQ juice keeping my garage at a temp for paint to dry and crap...

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Steering is a little weird. No return to center. That and the steering wheel just seems too big now (15 in) It seems disproportionate to the the steering reaction. So I have a 12.5 in wheel coming. Other than that - feels good - effortless. Of course I didn't get far, seeing how it was 8 degrees during my test drive. yeah.....New England sucks.

I'll post some pics soon!
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Old 03-01-2014, 06:51 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Details.....details.....

Couple shots of the steering cooler and lines. I had to make a puke can for the steering and transmission as i could not find anything that would fit in the space I had. I think I will duplicate it on the passenger side for the coolant over flow.

Winch mount was reworked. I had to off set the winch due to the tube work. I hate how it looks off center. But I have no choice. I think I will make a plate to hold my permit stickers and tuck it into that open space.

Took it for a bit longer drive just now, even though it's only 18 degrees. I can't believe the ride difference. Sorry, no action shots.

Still some things to wrap up before i can really call this phase done. But damn.....we're close!
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Old 03-01-2014, 10:21 PM   #103 (permalink)
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How's is ride? What front spring rates are you using? Still on leafs in the rear?


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Old 03-02-2014, 04:20 AM   #104 (permalink)
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How's is ride? What front spring rates are you using? Still on leafs in the rear?


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Nope - 16 inch Kings in the rear.

Front rate is 200 over 250. Rear is 150 over 200. I think the front may be a tad heavy. But we'll run it and see how it feels.

The ride is fantastic. Granted I didn't go very far or very fast. But I can feel a huge difference in the ride. But this hydro steering.....bizarre. That's going to take some getting used to.

Overall very please so far.

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Old 03-02-2014, 05:17 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Awesome. Glad you like it!

My front is 125/225. Seems ok however I didn't drive very far either. Lol

My thoughts exactly on the steering. I'm sure we will get used to it.

I hope I made the right decision with a single ended instead of a balanced system... Time will tell I guess.

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Old 03-02-2014, 10:07 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Awesome. Glad you like it!

My front is 125/225. Seems ok however I didn't drive very far either. Lol

My thoughts exactly on the steering. I'm sure we will get used to it.

I hope I made the right decision with a single ended instead of a balanced system... Time will tell I guess.

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I think your spring rate is closer to what I need. I'm reading through the spring tech thread trying to learn more. I'm admittedly way behind on coilover tech and set up. So before I jump the gun and run out and buy more springs, I need to smarten myself up. More to come I'm sure....
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Old 03-02-2014, 06:42 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Built some "fenders" today. Pretty pleased with the results. I carried the angle of the shocks onto the latch angles. Yeah I know.....well into the OCD spectrum...
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I like the fenders. It is a nice detail that most overlook.
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Old 03-02-2014, 07:41 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Nice fenders!
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:55 PM   #110 (permalink)
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The fenders look really good! Defiantly adds that Willys old school flare. Not as buggyish! I love the detail.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:47 AM   #111 (permalink)
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The fenders are pimp! Might copy you


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Old 03-04-2014, 09:43 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Looks great Andy! Cant wait to get out on the trail and see it work. maybe another month...
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:53 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:38 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Thanks guys. I appreciate the feedback!

So it was essentially done - only needing to rework the front driveshaft. But......I decided I don't like the crossmember skid combo. Actually I never did. So off to the drawing board. Rework to begin soon. Likely will go to a 2 piece front shaft.
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When is the shakedown? First club run?
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:24 PM   #116 (permalink)
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When is the shakedown? First club run?
Hope to get out next weekend. Few odds and ends on the new skid to wrap up and I should be ready to rock.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:07 AM   #117 (permalink)
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started the new crossmember/skid. The structure is done. I'm a little worried about belly clearance. This design increases strength by 5 at least. But at the sacrifice of a half inch of belly height. Normally that wouldn't bother me. But with the longer wheelbase, I'm wondering. I will be at 20.5 inches across the skid. My only other option is to redesign and build a smallers skid that protects and follows the lines of the t-case - which is the lowest point. Most research and most people i've talked to say the height vs wheelbase is just fine. What do you guys think? Keep in mind, there will be soem more work done at the corners to make the transition from rock to skid much smoother.
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I would say leave the skid flat. 20.5" is good. That skid looks super beefy. Looks good is that 2x2 box tubing you used with 1/4" flat stock agains the frame? What is your wb?
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:56 AM   #120 (permalink)
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I would say leave the skid flat. 20.5" is good. That skid looks super beefy. Looks good is that 2x2 box tubing you used with 1/4" flat stock agains the frame? What is your wb?
Yep - quarter inch wall everything. This time I built it like a battleship.

WB is 108-109ish. I was previously at 102.
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Looks great man!!!

Are you running any swaybars? With my 125/225. Leans like a mofo. I think it's to soft.


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Looks great man!!!

Are you running any swaybars? With my 125/225. Leans like a mofo. I think it's to soft.


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Thanks!

Yes I've run a rear anti-rock for a few years now. Even with my heavier springs and the sway bar, I've noticed some lean as well. I'm surprised you are leaning that badly with the leafs in the rear.

I chatted with Lucas Murphy over the weekend about my spring rates. He's recommending 150 over 200 for me. Our rigs are so simliar, that your rates should be pretty spot on. What are you using for shocks in the rear, out of curiousity.

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I'm thinking a anti rock in front first.

I heard that running a anti rock in front of the rear axle works great. Is that where yours is?


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Old 03-10-2014, 06:45 AM   #124 (permalink)
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I'm only 16, but my family has videos of your Flatfender, along with Jacks, and George's in Tellico. My dad's name is John Novak and had a white YJ on 33s at the time and we're members of Iron in the Pines. Jack is a close family friend and he has a yj now with a 4.3 tbi, dana 44s, 5.13s and 38s. No Excuses is more alive then ever. I also think there was talk of going to moab with you guys. IITP hopes to go next year.
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:42 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Great work as always Andy!

I found some old pictures from either a NE4WI run or a Mohawk Jamboree, not sure if the primered Willys are yours. I also have a pics of a couple of nice green willys, figure you would know who there were. This has to be early 90's









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