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Old 03-29-2019, 03:15 PM   #651 (permalink)
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Apparently I'm still in Knuckle dragging 60's mode
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Old 03-29-2019, 07:33 PM   #652 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=49willys_mogon;44381194]Ben,

Thanks for the MSEL video! Not sure if you knew the whole ECU/PDU the wagon is running integrates this isolator quite nicely. I totally agree with the KISS principle however I'm way beyond that now as there isn't even a fuse box or relays in this system

Tom: You are dragging us in!!! I guess I am close to a knuckle dragger also. But so are my trail buddies that have to help me diagnose an electrical issue. Why I thought the Cartec unit was appropriate to most of us on a mild level. It "self diagnosed" and could be understood with common sense.

When Throttle Body FI first came out in aftermarket, I went with it but I always had the "Holly in the box." On later purchases, I ordered the Throttle body kit but with extra sensors and computer. Getting tow-strapped out of some of our camping and wheeling spots is NOT fun for the tow-er or tow-ee.

But I get the new tech. If not already we will be locked into it in the next few years. I just wish getting the part in the boondocks was just as easy to understand and diagnose. (I even carry a spare OEM computer in the LJ... I just don't want to be that guy.)

On that OEM subject my sons Silverado was smoking alternator wires randomly. We tried everything to drop the 14 volts and 30-40 amps. Last resort was a new computer...or disconnecting the alternator from the system and letting it do the regulation (The alternator already had it installed but the computer bypassed the regulation) Clip clip. Problem solved. But I can also say that I have had the old points regulators fail and full field the alternator. On the Rubicon we ran the excite wire thru a switch on the dash board. I would crawl for 20 minutes and then charge for 5. Worked and got us into and out of camp.

I can see our new tool kits will contain a mini laptop. Don't we all carry a code scan tool and schematics today???.. In the SBC flatty. I still carry points and a condenser. LOL

Cool stuff. I was thinking Motec on the new build. So stepping into the oven also.

Does JR get to think thru the wiring? (Getting your hand in the fire is how we learn sometimes)

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Old 03-30-2019, 12:22 AM   #653 (permalink)
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Ben, LR would be my choice.



Horschels ultra 4 from '18. Chris designed the system and sent it to him and raced it in Glen Helen the following weekend. Heard it was a beast. Little knuckle dragging going on under the dash

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If you are looking into a Holley system a good friend in Shingle Springs is a Holley rep Dave at Autotrend EFI.

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Old 03-30-2019, 08:26 AM   #654 (permalink)
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All this is way over my head, I need an electrical system I can patch back together with some pilfered barbwire and duct tape in the middle of Baja.
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Old 03-30-2019, 11:23 AM   #655 (permalink)
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Ben, LR would be my choice.

Horschels ultra 4 from '18. Chris designed the system and sent it to him and raced it in Glen Helen the following weekend. Heard it was a beast. Little knuckle dragging going on under the dash

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OH God: LR is 2 miles from me. Maybe we should plan a visit. Horschel is a top 10 threat in Ultra4 for sure. That master is also a perfect place as the batteries are in the front (rear engine), protected within the chassis, and away from the electronics.There would still be the two big starter and alternator wires traveling along the chassis. I believe your electronic master switch would sense problems in those and shut down before smoke.

BDKw1...KISS... Correct, but can't we dream? We think nothing of taking current OEMS to Baja. Well many do.... But rarely alone.

I wasn't contemplating sending this to you Tom. JR probably doesn't need any more "ideas." You are destroying my vision also. More tech here than we deserve. Total involvement. A long discussion with passion, but how you guys think. $6mm ea.


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Old 04-22-2019, 06:04 PM   #656 (permalink)
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Getting ready for paint...These are the products for all the tasks involved in the prep for the wheel tubs and surface prep.

Since the PPG Red Oxide DP74 sat for awhile spot treatment was required where some surface rust came back (primer is porous), kick panels and other misc channels that were missed I'll be spraying with a wand. Since the DP74 doesn't sand well it needs to be de-glossed to allow another primer to bond to it.

1. LORD 108b body panel adhesive and is GM/Chrysler approved
2. LORD 122EZ self leveling seam sealer for the drip rails or rain gutters.
3. LORD 123EZ seam sealer.

Wheel tubs: The tubs were originally tack welded in and the seams allowed water through over the years. The LORD 108b has to be applied to bare metal and completely seals off any air or moisture to allow rust back in.

There will be additional seam sealers and undercoating done. Once the panel and tub are fused together there is no way to insure paint coverage in between so I trial fitted the tub to the inside body panels to mask off paint and adhesive areas.

The adhesive is so strong it bonded the clamp pads to the sheet metal! Everything was easy to clean up with automotive paint grade acetone.



Master series silver "slim" 2 coats brushed on



Master series Ag111: 1 coat brushed on



Once the panel and tub are fused together there is no way to insure paint coverage.


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The 242 AMG transfer case had a defect where the cooling loop around the input shaft cracks and leaks transmission fluid into the transfer case. Supposedly this case had the fix so just in case to reduce transmission, transfer case, and rotor temps sprayed them with Techlines Thermal dispersant.





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Frame back from the powder coaters. $600 for the coating the frame and 70 pieces, $400 for the sandblasting.



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Probably one of the hardest choices in life. Deciding on a color...Aston Martin Sage Green. Should look great with the wood.


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Tales from the paint crypt





Came up with a clever way to spray on a rack using magnetic hooks on the wagon in the grommets of tarp for a paint skirt to minimize overspray and aluminum foil wrapped around the lifts and Jack stand.



Tail gait prevention: soaked tailgates in metal prep then sprayed slim and ag111 in every orifce of the tailgates. After each step blow the orifices so the gases and mist bubble through the seams and dry.



Undercarriage prep: One leg in grave garage





Shultz! Gun: $20 gun with in panel tip to treat hat channels and kick panels with Wurth stoneguard sound deadening heat blocking and rust prevention
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:18 AM   #661 (permalink)
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Old 05-04-2019, 08:45 AM   #662 (permalink)
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It would make it a lot easier to find this stuff online if you spelled it right.

I have never been into having a trail rig look nice, but I might just try it this time around. I like the hotbox paint booth.
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It would make it a lot easier to find this stuff online if you spelled it right.
Freakin epic somebody read my mind!
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Classic Elegance. Neat! Gentlemans Wagon.

We have always thought the wagon offered the opportunity to go two or three color. But the ones I like most seem to be Full Monte Single color. I wondered what Aston would do and they do no two tones. Only black accent stripes, etc. (Not sure how the red winch fits that scheme. Polish?)

It looks like that color is available also. A couple years ago we tried to get or match a McLaren Volcano Orange. The only way you were going to get it was with a vin#. Some expensive creative mixing for that truck!

I thought it was more Grey at first until I saw this picture. Speed Yellow, Calif Sage, Mercury Silver. Real Sage right after a rain is a slightly darker standout! More like the DB above.

Cheers for something different.
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Sprayed 3 rust encapsulating paints seam sealers and wurth sound heat deadener paint 2 coats clear.
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So now that you've got paint on it, what did you forget to weld on?
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Un freakingbelievable.

You are really doing everything correctly.

Damn I miss my '48 W-O wagon.
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So now that you've got paint on it, what did you forget to weld on?
Speak of the all sorts of goodies but we're going for it.
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When someone comes to look at your wagon, you need to break out a creeper.
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While the body is in the paint bay, the chassis is being assembled for the (hopefully) last time.
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That's one hell of a willys. Your workmanship is outstanding

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That's one hell of a willys. Your workmanship is outstanding
Pat, thanks for all the support getting the Master Series products on the wagon. Very impressed with the results and your products
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Can't wait to get a ride in this thing!!
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Pat, thanks for all the support getting the Master Series products on the wagon. Very impressed with the results and your products
I'm proud have my coatings on your ride. I hope someday we can meet, sit and have a beer
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Regarding the Master Series products this was an interesting independent analysis using salt test against a few of the products out there.

https://youtu.be/lZEyjR7jTWk
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