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Old 02-05-2014, 09:46 AM   #501 (permalink)
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Hey awesome picture taker man, how about some pics of the new springs?

I would build the mounts for the bumpstops with some kind of adjustment in them. Maybe a shim stack or something that you can swap out to tune things in. As the springs wear in or on heavily loaded trips things might change.
Will grab some photos

Good idea on the adjustable bump stop, that's probably the way to go, just as simple as stacking shims I guess!
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:18 PM   #502 (permalink)
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I got the radiator bracket attached again. Drove it to work today, and WOW, there really is hardly any vibration noise anywhere now.

Just the tail gate hooks, and the hood bouncing on the MB light brackets. I had rubber glued to the hood, but it didn't hold. I'll probably bolt-on some rubber pieces this time. I think with those two taken care of, I'll have a rattle free Willys. Imagine that



Oh, and found an old Warn 5687 winch, I'll eventually put that on the front (with synthetic line). Anyone know how much modification to the front needs to be done to mount a winch? I imagine for sure I'm going to need to remove the bumper and figure out a different bumper, but would the front of the frame be strong enough?

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Old 02-05-2014, 02:27 PM   #503 (permalink)
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I got the radiator bracket attached again. Drove it to work today, and WOW, there really is hardly any vibration noise anywhere now.

Just the tail gate hooks, and the hood bouncing on the MB light brackets. I had rubber glued to the hood, but it didn't hold. I'll probably bolt-on some rubber pieces this time. I think with those two taken care of, I'll have a rattle free Willys. Imagine that



Oh, and found an old Warn 5687 winch, I'll eventually put that on the front (with synthetic line). Anyone know how much modification to the front needs to be done to mount a winch? I imagine for sure I'm going to need to remove the bumper and figure out a different bumper, but would the front of the frame be strong enough?
I would probably box the end of the rails if you can. It would be a perfect time to think about going to a modern steering box too I was able to bend one of my orignial frame rail horns pretty easy....hence my new frame.

If you use 2x3 box tubing for the bumper I think you can sneak the upper mounting holes above the tube and the still have enough room under the bumper for the hawse.

B4wscrambler did a really nice upright sunken winch mount on his Part Due build with using a stock based flat fender frame.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:31 PM   #504 (permalink)
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I do have a press brake on a 20 ton press, so I can bend some plate if I have to. I'll start mocking it up sometime
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:54 AM   #505 (permalink)
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If you need parts for that winch Herm the Overdrive Guy seems to have the best selection right now....

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You can't get everything, but these old winches don't seem to wear out too fast. I have been really happy with how mine pulls for a '6000lb' winch. I have the even older Belleview version.

It's neat, but for real work I would rather have the newer 8274 version with the in/out motor and modern brake system. I do like that mine came off a jeep that got the factory dealer winch option in something like 1973 though
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This is how we strengthened the front of mine, different winch but I have not tweaked the rails, even plowing with it:

The DS rail is boxed and extended up/raised so we could get the steering box higher (large bore J20 box). The bumper is no longer structural, it is just a cover.









Later we did this when we added the plow mount, it also will double as a vice mount.





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Old 02-08-2014, 01:11 PM   #507 (permalink)
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thanks for the photos!

I'm gonna try my old bumpstops from my TJ onto the back of the willys, I think they are a good bit longer
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Old 02-08-2014, 06:29 PM   #508 (permalink)
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Finally, got most of the intake finished. I thought about it for a while, then decided I wanted the canister on the back of the fender. Fits real nice! And the engine is suprisingly alot quieter now. I'm kind of shocked at how quiet this thing is, compared to how it used to be with no intake, and huge holes in the floor and firewall, and before almost all of the vibrations/rattles were taken care of.

Drilling the hole was interesting because I couldn't drill is straight on, I was at something like a 15 degree angle to the metal, but it wasn't to bad. it's a very tight fit, which I like. Used a 2 1/8" hole saw, and then filed it out just slightly and it's a snug fit.

I will probably paint the canister OD green.

And I need to decide on what type of cap to put on the canister, to keep rain water from coming in. The simplest would be a 90 degree bend and then a tractor "mushroom" cap, but we'll see. I'm gonna start looking around the internet to see what options there are. I MAY make a shield for it to block any potential spray from rain water that may billow out of the fender, but since it doesn't rain here very often, I won't do that just yet.







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Did you pass the hose right through the hole? You might want to stick some edge guard on it or something. I would think vibration might eat through the hose after time? Maybe weld in a section of tubing with your new tig welder to the cowl panel and then connect a hose to either side?

Neat mod. I think the engine will be MUCH happier sucking cool air from outside the engine compartment.
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Did you pass the hose right through the hole? You might want to stick some edge guard on it or something. I would think vibration might eat through the hose after time? Maybe weld in a section of tubing with your new tig welder to the cowl panel and then connect a hose to either side?

Neat mod. I think the engine will be MUCH happier sucking cool air from outside the engine compartment.
Yea, I thought about doing that, some sort of large grommet. But it's such a tight fit, that I don't think it will be a problem. I literally had to twist and push it through the hole, it doesn't flop around at all. And I filed and sanded down the edges real good.

If it's a problem though, I can always to back and grind the hole a bit larger, and do something else. The tube idea sounds neat!

I'm suprised at how much air is sucked through the filter, even at idle.

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Do you think the filter canister will suck more dirt in that position? I know on our heavy equipment with a similar canister collect a lot of dust when they are close to moving objects like rad fan, tires etc.
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Do you think the filter canister will suck more dirt in that position? I know on our heavy equipment with a similar canister collect a lot of dust when they are close to moving objects like rad fan, tires etc.
It might, if I'm behind a vehicle offroad. But I'm not to worried about it. I look at the inside of my TJ's engine bay, and it's COVERED with dust after each offroad trip. So I can't imagine it would be a whole lot worse outside the engine bay.
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I Guess there is a lot of surface area on the filter in that setup
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I'd think you would want to put a pipe on and bring it up like a snorkel. One good water splash and water is going right in that inlet, especially in the rain or a water crossing.
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X2 for a snorkel, it would look factory, What is the canister from, I may borrow that idea it looks great.
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X2 for a snorkel, it would look factory, What is the canister from, I may borrow that idea it looks great.
The canister is from a Kubota tractor.

As for the cap, I'm going to put a 60 degree bend on the intake there, and put a little rain cap on it. 60 degrees will set it pretty darn near to level.

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Oh, so when I spray the canister OD green, maybe I'll stencil on some text (fairly small). Any ideas on something funny to spray on there? Something that might give a few folks a chuckle or two when they read it.
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Oh, so when I spray the canister OD green, maybe I'll stencil on some text (fairly small). Any ideas on something funny to spray on there? Something that might give a few folks a chuckle or two when they read it.
I'd put something about fording depth.

'If water depth gets to 'here' call 1-800-new-engine"

And get me some pics of your springs you lazy bastage! geeeessss!
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I'd put something about fording depth.

'If water depth gets to 'here' call 1-800-new-engine"

And get me some pics of your springs you lazy bastage! geeeessss!
haha! Will do I was planning on doing that when I get the bump stops on there, just haven't had time to. Had to work both days this weekend

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haha! Will do I was planning on doing that when I get the bump stops on there, just haven't had time to. Had to work both days this weekend
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I like it!! You could turn the air canister and have the intake tube go into the cowl to get fresh air from behind the dash.
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I like it!! You could turn the air canister and have the intake tube go into the cowl to get fresh air from behind the dash.
That actually was my original idea, to have the canister under the dash. But I didn't want to have the additional noise that comes through the intake. In hind sight, the noise probably isn't as loud as I thought it would be though, when I stand next to the canister and rev the engine, it's not all that loud coming from the canister.
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I'd put something about fording depth.

'If water depth gets to 'here' call 1-800-new-engine"
I think i found a good sticker for the air canister


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I like it, can you get it in flat black?

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might try to design a stencil like it.
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