DieselDoris 1947 CJ2a from Sweden - Page 9 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > Jeep - Willys
Register Blogs FAQ Community Calendar Premium Memberships
Notices

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-18-2018, 08:04 AM   #201 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Member # 67823
Location: Republic of Vancouver Island
Posts: 5,117
Sweet little wagon. Subscribed!
__________________
Big diesel Ford, a stable of white toyotas from '84-08, and a bw200. They all need work.
squamch is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2018, 04:09 PM   #202 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
I'm not going to write a lot just show the pics



pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 12-20-2018, 03:59 PM   #203 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156



Cutting template for the plasma






Sleve through the frame




The other side
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-25-2018, 03:09 AM   #204 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
When i bought the axles there where after market hightsteer arms fitted.
If I would have kept them, I'm only got 1" of up travel on the suspension.





so this is the plan.
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-25-2018, 12:26 PM   #205 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
I added frame connectors for the cage.
the plane is that they stop the tube from cracking.



I build the suspension to be able to have as much up travel as the frame allows.




All brackets that might need to be replaced in the future have wood templates.


Rear frame connector and radius arm mount are built as one strong unit.



Planed ride height


Rear pinjong angle at ride height

A shave is planned for the axles
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-30-2018, 04:28 AM   #206 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
Front axle at maximum possible full bump


Roughly where the motor gone end up.






We where in Amsterdam on our summer holiday.
In a normal convenient store I found this beer
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-30-2018, 02:10 PM   #207 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Member # 5326
Location: Southwest Colorado
Posts: 11,062
The rebuild looks great!

What is the reasoning behind the rear radius arm vs something like a 3/4/5-link system?
__________________
42 MB, 225, T18, big kid go cart with clown tires
92 Dodge W250 daily driver on 39s
Mieser is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-30-2018, 09:58 PM   #208 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Member # 667169
Posts: 22
I always wondered what wheeling/offroad modification was like outside of the US, maybe me and the wife can move to Europe lol.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
LongviewYJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-31-2018, 03:08 AM   #209 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mieser View Post
The rebuild looks great!

What is the reasoning behind the rear radius arm vs something like a 3/4/5-link system?
The reason is that I have had an extremely stabil car on sideslopes etc. and I try to keep that, with the radius arm I get like a built in sway bar.

Why a not so flexy rear end vs front end?
My experience is that if you get the front wheels true the obstacle the rear wheels will easier follow.
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-03-2019, 11:35 AM   #210 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Member # 5326
Location: Southwest Colorado
Posts: 11,062
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigge View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mieser View Post
The rebuild looks great!

What is the reasoning behind the rear radius arm vs something like a 3/4/5-link system?
The reason is that I have had an extremely stabil car on sideslopes etc. and I try to keep that, with the radius arm I get like a built in sway bar.

Why a not so flexy rear end vs front end?
My experience is that if you get the front wheels true the obstacle the rear wheels will easier follow.
That is an interesting way to think about it. In my experience the radius arm rear will have some rather severe jacking/lifting issues when under power. This is magnified when the vehicle is climbing and on a higher traction surface.
__________________
42 MB, 225, T18, big kid go cart with clown tires
92 Dodge W250 daily driver on 39s
Mieser is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2019, 08:23 AM   #211 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
Time for some motor mounts


Passenger side


Driver side


Rear motor/trans mount
On this picture you could also se the sleeves for the radius arm mounts.

I would have liked to have the rear mounts on top of the frame but then I coulden't remove the trans with the tub on, so they had to be on the inside of the frame rail.
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-06-2019, 09:59 AM   #212 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Member # 229476
Location: Gilroy
Posts: 3,992
Nice update
__________________
If it ain't a flat-fender, it ain't much.
Crimson White and Indigo
danielbuck is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-24-2019, 05:10 AM   #213 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156



Same reinforcement as standard Willys frame
Are now also welded in between the spot welds


Motor mounts


Rear motor/trans mount
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2019, 01:57 PM   #214 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
I ordered a new winch mount from a local shop




Made new plates to weld in the radius arms


I also made a reinforcement between the lover bushing and the upper tube.

The finished arm


The angle of the arm at ride height
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2019, 02:04 PM   #215 (permalink)
today
 
fredycruger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Member # 225557
Location: MA
Posts: 1,402
wow
nice work on the frame
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
fredycruger is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-25-2019, 08:06 PM   #216 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Member # 5326
Location: Southwest Colorado
Posts: 11,062
nice update!
__________________
42 MB, 225, T18, big kid go cart with clown tires
92 Dodge W250 daily driver on 39s
Mieser is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-02-2019, 05:48 AM   #217 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
I put on the tube so I could move forward.




I decided to make new fenders, the old high line fenders were limiting my flex and up travel.


Temporary tube fenders




pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-02-2019, 06:13 AM   #218 (permalink)
Damn kids
 
plym49's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Member # 162771
Posts: 14,297
Inspiring work. Well done.
__________________
.

Always tip.



.
plym49 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-04-2019, 05:36 AM   #219 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
It feels like everything takes like forever to make

20190422_160737 by Jonas Schiller, on Flickr
Front axle fully welded

20190419_014722 by Jonas Schiller, on Flickr
20190420_192020 by Jonas Schiller, on Flickr
Front and rear shock hops are made

20190504_013455 by Jonas Schiller, on Flickr
20190504_013504 by Jonas Schiller, on Flickr
Did the hardest parts of the passenger side tube fender
Know the fenders are raised 3,75 inches from stock and just half the size
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-13-2019, 08:43 AM   #220 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Member # 31763
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,192
Looking good and thanks for updating!
craigellis77 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-13-2019, 09:27 AM   #221 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
welndmn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Member # 398
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 19,754
Blog Entries: 3
Send a message via ICQ to welndmn
Cool stuff!
__________________
Mark
71 Bronco. 42's and bolt on goats.
47' CJ2a, 302, C4, 33's. 2012, year of the flat fender.
welndmn is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-14-2019, 12:20 PM   #222 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
csutton7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Member # 4962
Location: Omaha, NE
Posts: 3,317
nice stuff going on...mycket bra job....
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
--my '48 build:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

'56 truck:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
csutton7 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-08-2019, 05:40 PM   #223 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Member # 221907
Location: Borås, Sweden
Posts: 156
I'm finally "finished" with the front fenders.





What's left to do is finish up some reinforcements and fully weld.


I have patched my floor and transmission tunnel.


Nothing will happen the next month, we are off to US for holiday with the family.
pigge is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-09-2019, 10:57 AM   #224 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Member # 5326
Location: Southwest Colorado
Posts: 11,062
Awesome work on the front fenders. Nice job!
__________________
42 MB, 225, T18, big kid go cart with clown tires
92 Dodge W250 daily driver on 39s
Mieser is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-2019, 10:22 AM   #225 (permalink)
Ford Bigot
 
FordFascist's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Member # 31227
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 4,100
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigge View Post
[/URL]
Rear motor/trans mount
On this picture you could also se the sleeves for the radius arm mounts.

I would have liked to have the rear mounts on top of the frame but then I coulden't remove the trans with the tub on, so they had to be on the inside of the frame rail.
First of all - your fabrication skills and attention to detail are incredible!

Now to late advice:

I would strongly advise you revise this mount by putting a single mount in the center.

Reasons why:
  • Transmissions and transfercases are not designed to resist the torque of the drivetrain.
  • The current design will likely sheer all of the bolts on the face of the adapter between the transfercase and transmission.
  • A rigid crossmember will be stronger.
  • A rigid crossmember with a single flex mount in the center will be easier to service.
Here's an MSPaint CAD drawing.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnYota
It sucks I took a dump earlier, now I'll never know if that roll would have caused me to crap my pants


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by FordFascist; 06-10-2019 at 10:23 AM.
FordFascist is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in



Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.