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Old 01-30-2018, 04:03 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Tim, not sure if this helps?
FYI: I'm running full width tons with uncut H1s and I'm 79.5 wide

Yep! I think that's the ticket. I just looked at yours and that pretty much what I have in mind. Where can I find them? .........Thanks
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https://reno.craigslist.org/wto/d/mi...469074475.html

I think there are a couple guys in your neck of the woods that have some?

Then get some of the PVC liners.

Only downside is there aren't that many tire choices. TSLs, IROKS, Pitbulls + ??


ALSO- with uncut H1s your hubs are going to stick out a bit much , I have a dually front so my hubs are recessed, so you likely need something else?
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My personal E.F.I. observation:
I read for about one hour today on Fitec, Holly, MSD EFI;s. What I noticed is, whichever one you have, the others seem to suck, followed by a short story of a friend has a _____, _____, ______, and it sucked. So at 4am I decided to just run the 1407 Edelbrock Carb I have for now. I will upgrade later. But I'm going to weld the 02 sensor bung in now before I put the tub back on...for the 6th time!
That's a new POS Edelbrock 1407, 750 cfm, it came with the Jeep, I would not have bought it. Why didn't he buy an offroad specific carb?

Because the offroad specific Edlebrock sucks. Add spring loaded needles and seats, and block off the rear bowl passage, and the Edlebrock will suck less.

You can google the passage thing for a better description and instructions
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Because the offroad specific Edlebrock sucks. Add spring loaded needles and seats, and block off the rear bowl passage, and the Edlebrock will suck less.

You can google the passage thing for a better description and instructions
Thanks that's good info. Since I already have the carb I will tinker with it.
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Find a 2bbl holley pattern SBC intake and let me build a big Autolite/Motorcraft 2100 for you.
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Tim, you got plenty of time to "find Poor mans fuel injection" = Quadrajet!

Should be able to dig a early 70s model up for cheap or free from some buddies around ya, put a couple throttle shaft bushings in and some new gaskets and not waste any money on that Edlebrock and sell it.

Stainless Dave runs one and I still run the same one 25 years later. Overhauler keeps the whole setup in the truck, pump, push rod, carb in case the FiTech shits
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Thanks Mieser for the offer, I'm going to be buying an EFI and sell the carb eventually so I don't want to put any money into it. For some reason I like the Holly Sniper, there is an EFI specialist in town I'll take his advice whatever the brand.

Oldtimingman I'm told there is a guy nearby that sells H1 wheels/tire combo. I haven't got his number yet. My hubs stick out 5 1/4" with drive flanges, how far do you think they will stick out past the H1 wheel? I had to replace the rock rings on my beadlocks on my little one because of hitting rocks, I don't need to be wackin' the hubs on the 60.
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Google H1s hub stickout ...should find some pics here on Pirate
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This is what I have from hub to tire,,2”
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rochead, that's a badass rig, the 40s look good, any rubbing ................For being a token..... Well I haven't been looking into wheels lately. I got it panted, and the rear rollbar support cut out and repaired. I'm going to reverse one front and rear wheel and flex it out again to see if I still have any rubbing then I can determine the back set. I think I may have to put my 3/4 ton calipers on first to get the wheels on?
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Two steps forward, one step back...
I've been trying to narrow up the rig, so less off set wheels seemed like the easiest way of doing that. But when building the shock hoops I put the body 1/4" from the top of my 40" tire wheel combo, trying to keep the body as low as possible and still use all of the 16" coilovers. So now that my body work is done and painted, I find I'm stuck with 40" tires. Not a bad thing, just a limiting factor. I would like to have the option to go up 1 tire size without bump stops.

Next issue: The body is 1/2" off the frame and now the air filter is 1" too high. The Holly E.F.I. is 3-1/4" high, same as my carb, my air filter is 3-5/8" high. So with some internet time I found a Spector Low Profile single hat style air filter at 2.4" tall.

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Hopefully that will be enough to not rattle the bottom of the hood. I don't want to raise the back of the hood, I'm going to keep it flush to the cowling. I could drop the engine approx. 1/4" max but my rear drive is already maxed out at full droop. With the engine moved back 2", 16" of droop, the axle got pushed back approx. 1' to keep the drive shaft and CV out of trouble. The local CORVA (Road to the Hammers) race track has a couple of high speed jumps, I don't want to build any problems into it if I can help it. I feel like a dog chasing it's tail.

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Tim,

Those carb hats really restrict air flow and the heat from the radiator, valve train and exhaust will collect around the carb or throttle body due to the close proximity of the hood will really rob you of power. A guy did some Dyno tests with them here and posted his findings here.

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Otherwise a drop base type found on early muscle cars like this might be a better option. Look for ones that dont have the filter exposed. Turkey pans are cool too.

https://www.efisystempro.com/holley-...-black-120-511

On the injection side of things I'd bite the bullet and set up a low profile single plane dry manifold with a throttle body set up for tpi. The 1k for the sniper or for and additional $300 gets you into the hp mgmt system. Dave and I are discussing a similar setup for my Dads 390 using an edelbrock Vic JR manifold add fuel rails to it and control it with the Holley hp efi mgmt.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about

$162 RHS single plane EFI intake manifold
$172 FAST billet fuel rail kit w/mounting hardware
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$125 machine shop service to correctly mount above
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49willys mogon: Thank's that was a good read this morning with a cup of coffee. So the 90 deg. elbow is a serious air flow restriction and causes air turbulence at the carb/TBI plenum. All of the discussions were from track day racers running higher RPM's. If I can get on an offroad track I don't see my RPM's getting over 5000 since my cam was ground for off idle to 4500.

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So with your info. The Holly EFI Sniper with a Holly drop style air filter base with a 14"x 2" K&N filter is my best option and a $100.00 cheaper. As far as under hood temps, I'm using a Flex-o-Lite flex fan. I don't remember the CFM but it will push a lot of air across the engine, keep'n the engine bay from collecting hot air pockets. I do not like electric fans because of the cycling on and off causing air temps to constantly fluctuate, that irritating whirling noise, and the 20 amp draw on the electrical system, and one more part to fail, I keep it simple. I bought an Edelbrock Airgap low RPM manifold from the machine shop for $50.00, it has bosses for injectors. I also bought aluminum heads which I understand is supposed to keep the engine cooler. But I'm big on keeping it simple for off road. My favorite trail is the Dusy Ershim on a weekday by myself. I've thought a few times, after not seeing anybody for 3 days and don't expect to see anybody for a few more, that to have the motor just shut off due to a electrical problem would suck. So that is why I keep lookin' at the best and simplest EFI I can find. Thanks for all the info. Tim
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ok , its been a month...whats going on?
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Well it's painted, body's on and I'm workin' on the cage. The cage came with the jeep, I didn't like the look so I cut it up and stretched it 4" and lowered it 1 1/2". I have some gussets cut, and a rack to build still that will set a few inches over the fuel cell. I ran out of welding gas last week so I quit workin' on it and started snow wheelin' the little one. Got my DUI distributor in and installed, I had it recurved for 550rpm. I got the Holley Sniper EFI (chrome), haven't even taken it out of the box yet. I took the TSL's off the big one and put them on the little one and put my Iroc Radials on the big one, they perform so much better in snow. The TSL's suck in the snow, so I bought a grooving tool, should be here Monday, I'll see how that works and try them again.

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So dilemma: I'm not really into naming my vehicles but I have two now, both yellow. Should I give them names? I know Fubar is tentatively the larger one. How about Camel Toe for the little one?
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That thing is going to be the shit! Looks awesome!
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Looking good there--will the big one get the same paint scheme as the little one?
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