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Old 08-24-2008, 10:10 AM   #176 (permalink)
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Hmm... not much for trails here, but at least it's not paved.



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swampers

With all that hardcore wheeling action just hours away from home, it was time to upgrade my tires. Nothing wrong with the NDT's, just that they are like greased clinchers in the rain and only mediocre offroad.

I apparently haven't bought tires in awhile. The last set of 35" BFG muds I bought were 156/each after mount/balance/warranty. Well these days, you'd be lucky to pick up a set of 31" BFG's for that! (and the only reason I even ran BFG's in the first place is because they were okay and cheap!).

I considered the pro comp muds when they had buy 3 get 1 free going... but couldn't get over their outrageous shipping costs. Besides I wanted something more aggressive.

I've always wanted a set of swampers.. and was very tempted by the 34x9.5 bias, or even the 32" bias TSL's... but in the end I decided I needed something practical for my tiny powerplant to push around. I went with a set of 31x9.50 Swamper TSL radials on 15x7 US wheels with 3.75" BS.

These tires fit perfect, don't rub the body, don't stick out much and don't rub the springs. They drive great, are smooth as silk up to terminal velocity and the compound is very soft. The sidewalls are also very flexible. Maybe not a good tire for a heavy rig, but perfect for this little Jeep. And a bonus, they were pretty affordable. Out the door with shipping and rims they were about $600 from Summit and I had them about 2 days after my order. Very happy customer

Comparison with my half worn out 285/75R16 coopers on the daily driver


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Few more hardcore parking lot pics





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I've got a huge problem with this writeup - it looks like it's winding down! You either need to keep the project going, or you need to pick up a new rig and start over again.

Killer build of a classic - if you're ever back wheeling in WA, I hope we meet on the trail.
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damn that thing turned out nice. very nice job
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Don't worry, it's not done. I have a few more goodies on the bench....

As to the new rig, yeah, don't tempt me. So; I've had a want-add in craiglist for a few months for an MB or GPW body. Someone contacted me with a half done MB project, supposeldly with a a good body and chassis.

And I've got an LS1 in the corner of my garage that needs a home.....

Hmm. Flat Rod? MLW3? Icelandic style cliff racer?
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With a 3.0 Backspace and a set of 34x9.50 ltbs rub?
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I seem to recall someone on another Jeep site posted there was a Stainless steel CJ2a body on Craigslist. I believe it was Yakima,WA.
Hey, here it is. http://yakima.craigslist.org/cto/789909993.html
Very nice build! The LTB's look great. They are so/so in the rain, get the center siped and the rain traction improves a lot.

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Wow, pretty neat stainless tub! the 6/6" stretch would be about perfect for a built flatty too. I'll have to post some of my "MLW3" build concept cad models. Basically it's an MB with a 6/6 stretch, 99" WB, LS1, etc, no lift raised fenders, dropped seats and 36's on a YJ chassis. As drawn I had some waggy axles but I 'spose a 35spline 9" rear and a 609 front would be ideal. Sounds like a plan right. Hah hah...

The tires I've got are actually the TSL radial (not to be confused with regular TSL, TSL-SX, LTB, SSR radial, icok or icock radial, STS, boggers, thorturds, M16 thornboggers... etc, ) So far wet traction has been a phenomenal improvement over the NDT's. Might sipe them one of these days though.

As to the 34x9.5 LTB... you sure they make such a thing?? In any case I would say yes they would rub, but you could probably run them with some trimming (possibly major trimming). I tried out a set of 32x10.5 TSL radials on wheels with a little less offset than I have and they rubbed some, but were workable.

3" offset (I'm asssuming negative) is quite a lot.... my rims only have a 1/4" postive offset and again, I think it's about right.

Now 3" backspacing... different question, but basically the same answer: I think they will still rub.

If you send me a set I'll report back with the details.
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Outstanding build. Thanks again for posting. Looks great with the new swampers.
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very pimp...those swampers look just right. i might consider those for my low-center of gravity LJ build. (i'm broke and don' really believe in lifts. so i'm going motor-mount/body lift (1"), tummy tuck, slight fender trim and coil spacers (1"-2")..i have a lot of respect for what classic MB/GPW can do with 31's and see no reason why my LJ can't do the same.

great write up.

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very pimp...those swampers look just right. i might consider those for my low-center of gravity LJ build. (i'm broke and don' really believe in lifts. so i'm going motor-mount/body lift (1"), tummy tuck, slight fender trim and coil spacers (1"-2")..i have a lot of respect for what classic MB/GPW can do with 31's and see no reason why my LJ can't do the same.

great write up.
I'd say if you're going with that much lift, I'd shoot for something a little bigger than these. I think one reason the flattys do well with little tires is that the wheelbase and track width are both small, giving you effectively more clearance underneath (think breakover height). They are also super light and the frame flexes like crazy.

For a low rider LJ I'd think a 285/75R16 would be about right, or maybe even larger.... with the right fender mods, you can run a 315 and no lift.... OTOH, gas mileage will suffer. The 33x10.5 and 33x12.5 radial swamper (not SSR) look identical to my tires, but slightly larger. From a looks perspective I'm not a real fan of connected center lug, but they still grab fine and probably roll a little better for it. The 32x9.5 and 36"+ radial do not have the connected center lugs. You might also want to take a look at the Truxxus tires as well....
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I'd say if you're going with that much lift, I'd shoot for something a little bigger than these. I think one reason the flattys do well with little tires is that the wheelbase and track width are both small, giving you effectively more clearance underneath (think breakover height). They are also super light and the frame flexes like crazy.

For a low rider LJ I'd think a 285/75R16 would be about right, or maybe even larger.... with the right fender mods, you can run a 315 and no lift.... OTOH, gas mileage will suffer. The 33x10.5 and 33x12.5 radial swamper (not SSR) look identical to my tires, but slightly larger. From a looks perspective I'm not a real fan of connected center lug, but they still grab fine and probably roll a little better for it. The 32x9.5 and 36"+ radial do not have the connected center lugs. You might also want to take a look at the Truxxus tires as well....
yeah, i'm also bit gun shy of having to swap my gears, hence the tendancy towards 31ish sized tires. i run the stock 30/9.5's now and i want to keep the width the same that i have now(i like the look of 33-9.5's, its a sickness.lol)

sorry for the hijack, thanks for the good advice!

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note--- I lost some of these photos (not for good, just lost my photo host). In the meantime, photos start up on a few pages on this post


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Before I get back to a few more "tech" posts, I wanted to share a couple of wheelin pics.

This trip here was the first (and only) trip I've done that was even remotely difficult. At first I got a lot of flak for my choice in wheeling rigs. Okay, so I'm open/open, don't have 40's... who cares I think I had way more fun and I kept up okay. About the only thing that gave me trouble were downed trees. The other guys would just idle over them and keep going. I'd idle over and find myself playing teeter-totter on my t-case, trans, clutch pedal, exhaust, etc. By the end of the day I think everybody had pretty much changed their minds about old flattys.

Start of the trail


First climb. I didn't make it real far but did a good job clearancing my exhaust system.


Here it was getting a little more interesting.


Yah, this is pretty much "flexed out" Hah ha


Showing off my sweet untrimmed u-bolts




I like this one, it's the screen saver on my computer


View out over the rolling hills of PA
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One of our Rail Trails I've done a few times. The river crossing are part of the trail.

Gratuitous flatty pic 1


Gratuitous flatty pic 2


Follow the rover


Rescue the rover


Ack! They're multiplying!!
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Hey, nice Jeep.
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Yeah the disks work/fit fine with probably just about any regular modern wheel. If the wheel will fit a disk brake CJ-5, it will fit this setup. It's the old style riveted wheels that don't fit.

I'm still having trouble with air in the lines. It stops so-so on the first pump and great on the second. I really hope this isn't a problem with the master cylinder being too small for the calipers (because I'm running the largest MC and smallest calipers that I can find). I have very little room for the MC and I need the lines to come out on the inboard/passenger side of the MC. There are very few out there to choose from that are this style.

I talked to my friend with a similar setup on his Scout. Well, similar in that he's running the same size MC and calipers, different in that it's a Scout and his MC is from/for a different application. Anyway he's having the same problem as I am. Only instead of the nearly 1 gallon of brake fluid I've flushed through my system, he's past 2 gallons now. He built a deck sprayer pressure bleed system too.

This all makes me think that the 1" bore MC can't supply enough volume for these calipers. However, every time I bleed my brakes it gets better. Same for him. I have some hope. The MC to caliper bore (area) ratios are also similar between my setup and the stock CJ setup.

Anyone running a 1" bore MC and waggy/K10 calipers able to get a firm pedal?
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Ive had the discs on mine for @ 2years, and it locks the 33's up easily, but the pedal is pretty far down in its stroke, and sometimes on the second pump. I think the chevy master bore size is more like 1 1/16, or 1 1/8 for these calipers.
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The fullsize appear to use a 1.13"diam MC w/ a 2.94" diam caliper
(hydraulic ratio of 6.89:1)

CJ's appear to use a 1.06" diam MC w/ a 3.10" diam caliper
(hydraulic ratio of 8.51:1)

I am running a 1.00" diam MC w/ a 2.94" diam caliper
(hydraulic ratio of 8.64:1)<--basically the same as the CJ.

(these numbers mean that if you apply 1lb of force at the MC, you would have 8.64lb of force on the brake pad).

Keep in mind, that's the ratio of piston areas, meaning that my hydraulic leverage is the same as the CJ. It does not mean that my pedal arm leverage, or travel and MC piston travel are similar. This discrepancy could explain a "low" pedal that acts like you describe.

I have heard that the full size truck manual disc brake MC were 1". I have not been able to confirm that such a thing exists, what I have seen are 1.13" MC for both manual and power applications.
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Got an email from Herm today. He confirmed that his dual piston drum master cylinder (what I'm using) is a 1" bore.

His disc brake master cylinder is a 1-1/8" bore. Ideally this m.c. would be used with stock CJ (3.10") calipers.

I have seen this m.c. and while it is the same configuration as the one I have, it appears to be physically larger.

If I can't get mine to work the way I want, I guess I'll try that next. The good news is that I think the fullsize 2.94" calipers that I have would be a (better) match for a rear disc brake conversion, so I might move those to the back and pick up some CJ calipers for the front.
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Very nice stock build. Disc's up front was good too! My 55 is converted and I can't get all the air out either. I think it's something to do with the master cylinder being mounted so low. Mines on the outside of the frame, but same problem.
Keep the tires small with the 10 spline axles, and consider a saginaw steering box up front.
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I'm starting to wonder if this is a really an "air in the lines" problem, or bad mc/caliper sizing. So far of the 4 people I've found who have done this swap with these parts 4 are having this problem. And one of them has his MC up on the firewall. I didn't have any trouble bleeding my brakes when it was 4 wheel drum...

I'm considering a steering box swap. Here's the dilemma. I have an M8000 (standard style warn winch) and I want to locate it in between the frame rails. I don't think it's possible to squeeze a manual saginaw box in there with the winch. Another option is the Ford box, but I'm not sure how straightforward that conversion will be either.

I'm open to suggestions!
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Hella H4 conversion

A while back I decided to swap in some modern headlights. I did a little bit of research and talked to my buddies running TJ's (which run the same basic headlight shape). The consensus seemed to be that the Sylvania Silverstars are a great improvement for the money, but tend to have a short life. These are a one piece design, you cannot change the bulb.

I also read a few other articles and JP had a real nice comparison. After comparing prices, perceived light output and looks I decided to go with the original, Hella Vision Plus conversion headlights.

Besides putting out good light I like them because they basically look stock. The bulb (being an H4 type) can be upgraded too if you want...

These ran me about 40/each from Summit (actually less, I had a $25 off coupon)

P/N HLA-002395301, 7" Hella Vision Plus Conversion Headlights, H6024 replacement, HB2 bulb.

Hella on the left, old sealed beam on the right



BIG dust boot. This interfered with the headlight buckets but seemed to squish down and fit okay.


The only obvious difference on the outside is the flat lens. At first I thought it looked weird, now that I'm used to it, the old style looks all googly-eyed in comparison.


Installed on the driver's side, googly eye on the pass side.


These made an INCREDIBLE difference. My old headlights were about one step up from old gas-lamp lights. These are about on par with a modern car. Crisp white light and lots of it.

I haven't gotten around to putting in a relay/'brightener kit', but I did take some measurements to see where I'm at. With all new wiring and switches I have about 1VDC drop at my headlights, so I guess I could probably get around 5% more light with relays.
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Speaking of voltage drop...... my first measurement with my jeep running had me scratching my head. At idle it was about 12v, rev it up, 14v (sounds normal), rev it up some more, 15... rev it up some more 16, 17....

So somehow or other my regulator stopped regulating things. I wonder if I just hooked it up wrong?

Last year I picked up a new alt... I'd been waiting until I swapped in my York air compressor to do the swap, but since I was feeling lazy, but didn't want to cook my battery anymore I decided to swap this on now.



Delco 10si (marine style), 140amp alt
Per their specs,
65amp at 600rpm
140amp at 1200rpm

This was a fleebay purchase, but it came from
DB Electrical www.db-starter-alternator.com


I have since swapped out the power wire to a 4AWG.


Like always, I had a hell of a time finding a power cable for this. Basically you can get whatever you want as long as you don't mind 12' of cable and any color you want as long as it's black. I like black, but I've done that a few times on battery cables, never again! After countless trips to every auto parts store in town, I had almost decided to make the 45 minute drive to the nearest alternator/electrical repair place. Well, on a whim I stopped by a local stereo place. They had some REALLY nice cable and ends, they made it to my specs and as a bonus it was actually cheaper than any of the above (about 6 bucks out the door).

Also, FWIW I had to shim around my brackets some to get the pulley to line up. My old alternator looked about the same (I assume it was a 10si) but the pulley was about 3/8" offset from this one.

This alternator, being a "one wire" internally regulated design, is self energizing. To energize it, you need to rev up the motor to roughly 1000-1500rpm (I don't have a tach, this is a guess). Once energized it stays on and charges at any RPM. By design, this alternator does not produce a full 14.4VDC until around 1000-1500rpm (again, I don't have a tach this is a guess). I would like a full 14.4 at idle, but... this is how this one is.

One other comment. It seems weird to me that the power/rpm ratings they gave me were for engine RPM's. How do they know what size pulley I have on my engine?
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