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Old 08-22-2017, 08:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Need Some Input/Advice On Possibly Selling My Rig

Well, reality is sitting in and with my daughters both older, job, wife, and just life in general, I am seriously considering getting rid of Winston. It's has been a labor of love, but I honestly don't see me getting it done any time soon. It's 90% there, but that last 10% keeps evading me!

Runs and drives, but still needs the finishing work (capping the body, finishing the rear area to mount spare, compressor, fuel/water cans, ect, running cables/vacuum lines for lockers, ect).

If it's basically worthless as is until finished, then I'll just grunt it out. But honestly, I'm tired of having a perpetual project.

Below is an overview of the mods - what would a fair price be for this rig?

Here’s the overview:
2000 Discovery II pulled out of service in 2005 for build
Top removed (factory doors and seals left so with a soft top rig should be
very weather-tight)
8-Point cage with built-in rain gutters for when top is installed
4 heated blk/grey Beard suspension seats w/ Beard harnesses
Momo flat-bottom Alcantara blk & grey wheel with custom adapter
Door panels and console are custom 2-tone black and grey by combining 2
interiors
Cutting brake
Chevy Hydro-boost MC
PSC high volume PS pump with ram assist
Volvo portals with 300M shafts
Can use vacuum actuators or cable to activate lockers / have hardware for
both just not installed
Custom center locking diff shifter allows locking in any range up to 60 mph
Custom Chevy 1-ton disc conversion w/ chevy 8 x 6.5” rotors and 1-ton
calipers
Front 3-link w/ 2.0” OD x .500” wall links & Johnny Joints
Rear 4-link w/ upper A-Frame 1.25” Uniball at top
All chassis mounts are rubber bushings
Custom fender-well headers ceramic coated and wrapped
Full SS Magnaflow exhaust w/ high-flow cats and mufflers, exit thru sliders in
front of rear tires
5 new 39.5x12.50R/16 Irok Radials
5 new Summit racing grey center faux beadlocks (I know! Plans were
internal beadlocks – the wheels matched the rig nicely)
FOA triple-rate coil-overs with remote resevoirs. F = 18” travel R = 16 “
travel
All steering components made of 1.0” x .288” wall with heim joints
Custom raised (not lowered!) pitman arm to compensate for portals and
keep all geometry aligned - machined from 1.5" thick chunk of steel
Panhard and draglink are parallel to each other and the ground at ride
height.
On-board air
Webco Fuel & Water cans
Front & rear custom all steel bumpers with recovery points.
Warn 8274 does NOT come with rig – was gift from my late father / will
mount on my daughter’s rig.
Mantec steel snorkel w/ cutom cyclone top with enclosed filter

**Added by Edit**
Front axle moved 2" forward Rear axle moved 4" rearward
Custom F & R lengthened driveshafts
Will fit in standard 7' garage WITHOUT airing down tires. Rig is approx. 6'6" tall and 7' wide. I made every effort to keep it as low as possible
but still have enough up-travel (4"-5") for highway driving. I built this to drive to the trails, NOT to be a trailer queen.
2500# ATV suck-down winches for each axle - not installed.
GPS Speedometer
Tuarus electric fan w/ cut-off switch for deep water crossings
1/4" SS fuel tank skid
**End of Edit**

There are a lot of small things not mentioned but overall this is an extremely well built rig with a lot of thought put into how everything will work together.

Can try and pull a few pics together but we all know what happened w/ photobucket. Most of you know this rig.

Thoughts and comments are welcomed.

Thanks(!),

Greg
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Old 08-22-2017, 03:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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SOunds legit , would love to see pics and the stance of this thing with the he portals and 39s
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Here's a few from my phone. In the full rig pict you can see that it still needs the D/S rear wheelwell. I have all the templates from the other side so that will be done soon.

Full shot (if you look hard you can see the exhaust exit), Steering showing geometry and links, engine bay showing coilover cradle, and interior showing heated Beard seats w/ harnesses and cutting brake:
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Old 08-22-2017, 05:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Greg- I've always been a fan of your truck. A shame you can't finish it. Unfortunately, I don't need a new one. But if you part yours out I would be very interested in some of that gear. Please keep me posted.

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Greg- I've always been a fan of your truck. A shame you can't finish it. Unfortunately, I don't need a new one. But if you part yours out I would be very interested in some of that gear. Please keep me posted.
Thanks for the compliments. It would probably take longer to part it out than to finish it(!).

Just trying to get feel for whether it's worth selling at this point.

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I love it.

Having just bought a rig, you will probably get 12k to 14k finished and 10-12k like is. That's cali prices. Don't know about over there. Good luck.
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I love it.

Having just bought a rig, you will probably get 12k to 14k finished and 10-12k like is. That's cali prices. Don't know about over there. Good luck.
Ouch! Thank you for your honesty. Waiting to get some more opinions(?).

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Ouch! Thank you for your honesty. Waiting to get some more opinions(?).

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He's probably not too far off, if maybe a couple thousand low. As an example, I sold my truck for 10 back when it was on 35s (then missed her and bought her back). So in the neighborhood of 15 sounds pretty realistic for yours unless you stumble into a "gotta have it!" buyer. As you know, the market for these types of trucks is pretty small. Sorry to be a downer.... I know someone who might be interested. Will reach out to him for ya
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He's probably not too far off, if maybe a couple thousand low.
I doubt he's low. In general, "90% finished" rigs aren't worth all that much. As the old saying goes, "The last ten percent takes 90% of the work." Plus, every 90% rig I've ever looked at has about another 10-100% of the work that needs to be re-done. (Not saying this is the case with yours but a standard concern of savvy buyers.)

Unless there's something magical about a 90% finished Land Rover (My LR's are all new, street vehicles.) that makes it different from every other brand ... you typically won't even get the value of the parts out of it unless you part it out - which, of course, takes as much work as finishing it.
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Just added a few more details via Edit.
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As (what I believe to be) the first DII chop guy, I have mad respect for your rig. And it's unfortunate that they just can't fetch even .40 on the dollar... So I sympathize with your plight here and hope you find a motivated, enthusiast buyer. And since this sounds kinda schmaltzy, I'll add this here...



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I bought my defender back for $16,500 and I overpaid for it as it was my baby. I had easily 40k into it. Probably more.

I built my racecar for 112K and sold it for 50K.

This is the hobby we chose. We chose poorly. Good luck.
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This is the hobby we chose. We chose poorly. Good luck.
Sig line material right there ^^^

Yes, the cost of entry is high. The cost of exit is higher...
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That thing is awesome. Unfortunately, I agree with what has been posted about it selling for ~ $10k as is. List it for $12,500 and take the first $10k. The market isn't what it once was, being incomplete hurts it significantly, as does the D2 engine IMO.

I'm a Rover guy through and through, but I wouldn't buy anything with a D2 engine given my experiences working on them and owning one.

The guys with $ to spend usually want overlanding rigs, or the guys with "F-you" money will drop the coin to have something built.

I would make the time to finish it, even if it isn't 100% the way you'd want it down to the smallest detail. Honestly, if you've got the parts and removed all distractions, it could be done in a week.

Then you'd either get more for it or have something useful.

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I agree with what most have said. Unfinished it's going to be a hard sell. Just from the parts you have listed I can tell you've put a ton of $$ into it.

If you can find a buyer I would put it at 10-12k as is. The problem is going to be finding a buyer that wants an unfinished truck. I think if it's finished and proven to work well you could probably get 14-15k from the right buyer.

From my experience buying and selling these things especially on the east coast. Most people that have the skills and the money to finish the truck are going to want to build one their way. The ones that have the skill and want to take on someone else's project. Typically do it because they don't have the money to build one from scratch. But most people that have the money for a toy in that price range want it to be turn key so they can take it out and show it off.
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Thanks for all of the advice everyone. Sounds like I have a Winter project (like I haven't said that at least 10 times now!).

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Hey Uncle, Any chance you'd be interested in a trade for a well build Jeep Wrangler? 4.0, HPD30 front with ARB, alloy axleshafts, Trussed, Synergy ball joints, Rubicon Dana 44 rear axle, factory air locker. 231 t-case, with slip yolk eliminator, CV rear driveshaft, 4" lift, 35" MTR/K's, on and on and on with the upgrades and new parts. If you text or email me I can send you pics etc...
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Hey Uncle, Any chance you'd be interested in a trade for a well build Jeep Wrangler? 4.0, HPD30 front with ARB, alloy axleshafts, Trussed, Synergy ball joints, Rubicon Dana 44 rear axle, factory air locker. 231 t-case, with slip yolk eliminator, CV rear driveshaft, 4" lift, 35" MTR/K's, on and on and on with the upgrades and new parts. If you text or email me I can send you pics etc...
Sorry Chris - as you can see this is the first time I've been on here in quite a while. Shoot me a message at [email protected] and we can chat.
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Sorry Chris - as you can see this is the first time I've been on here in quite a while. Shoot me a message at [email protected] and we can chat.
No offense to your buddy. But if you trade a rig on portals for one with a dana30 in it, we will send someone to your house to beat you with a pillowcase full of soap.
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No offense to your buddy. But if you trade a rig on portals for one with a dana30 in it, we will send someone to your house to beat you with a pillowcase full of soap.
Ha-no worries about that! He's my nephew and I want to see what he had in mind meaning how much $$. He can sell his rig and add some cash potentially.
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Sorry Chris - as you can see this is the first time I've been on here in quite a while. Shoot me a message at [email protected] and we can chat.
I don't get on here much myself. I'll email you tonight.
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