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Old 08-27-2010, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Series IIa gone Ford

I found a deal I couldnt pass up, A 1964LR series IIa in Albany, the guy brought the car up from texas over the summer. Its rock solid, body is in decent shape, frame and bulk head are mint! I've been looking for a trail rig project for awhile... got sick of my stupid geo tracker and decided to build a real truck. My plans are to switch over to a ford 302 with an NP435 with an atlas 3.8:1. Dana 44 front and 9" rear 4.11 ratio. 4link with king coil over 14"ers.


heres the truck when purchased it.









I'll try to get the thread alittle more current over the weekend.

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Old 08-27-2010, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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jesus, i didn't realize those engine compartments are so small...

nice find, looks like a cool build.
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Man be a shame to butcher that up but cant say I havent done it myself. The first "hybrid" (series rover on a RRC or Disco chassis) I built was a 73 I pulled out of the glades, but the frame was toast as was the whole truck really. I used the range rover running gear, shortened it 1o inches and slapped the body on. Sold that one, now building another, this one I just bought the body parts used (package deal) and Im putting it on a Disco chassis with a Nissan Diesel and Rover manual trans. I copied "Strange Rover" a bit though I must admit and left the frame 100" wb and cut the body out of the way. Have fun. Gordo
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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heres a few more updates to get this thread more current. I started to dissassemble the truck and blast the frame, everything is in amazing condition except the front fenders, looks like someone hit objects and maybe the pass side of the tub got rolled over onto or something nothing major...












also got all the blast work done.




next step is to chassis saver frame and start fab work on shock towers 4link brackets make motor mounts, prep new axles in place etc etc.
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Old 08-30-2010, 06:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Awesome! Hope you keep the pace going so we can see how it turns out.
I'll be looking forwards to see how you're going to do the 4-link. What are you going to do up front?
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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jesus, i didn't realize those engine compartments are so small...
They really are not small.
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Nice truck to start with. Ever consider a 4.3 V6? Plenty of power and will give you a little more room.

Don't forget power steering while you're at it.
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Nice truck to start with. Ever consider a 4.3 V6? Plenty of power and will give you a little more room.

Don't forget power steering while you're at it.
well I had the 302 and all the drivetrain componets thats why I chose it, but yea I thought about it. Plus im kinda used to working in tight spaces, I do alot of custom work on 67-68 big block mustangs, so the rover engine bay feels like a wide open field to me lol
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Started to test fit motor and make motor mounts.


these 2 pics show the first initial hanging, the green tape lines are where my shock towers are going to be roughly.




the flat blank of motor mount



here is the flat blank of the front shock towers. the cut out is for the steering rod to pass through.


and some pressbrake action...



completed shock tower #1 wasnt to far off on the first try



and the test fit:


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Damn, thats some sweet shit youve got going on there, you arent kidding with it Those shock towers are sweet. But will the Left one be strong enough? or are you gonna brace it?
Very cool build!
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Nice work on the towers, but i do advise you to put in a power steering box, as it seems you are keeping the steering relay and associated linkages. Also plate and truss every bit where your suspension mounts are going to be as the 2mm steel frame will start to fatigue and crack everywhere, that includes under your shock towers.

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Engine looks extremely low. is that where its going to end up?
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engine hoist was sagging a bit in pic lol the harmonic balancer bolt should be above the front frame brace

and I plan on gusseting shocker towers and putting a cross brace between them.
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Looks sweet! really nice work on the shocktowers, keep it coming!
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Albany,NY or Albany,Georgia?
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Albany,NY or Albany,Georgia?
NY, so far north that when you actually go into NH and then back into NY getting to the guys place lol
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So how much for 4 of the shock towers to 80920?

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Ill get back to you around tuesday aloha on towers
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another quick update:

started hanging rear and swap the stock rover with the ford 9"





view of brackets on rear housing without gussets:



I ended up remaking the brackets all together I shortened them and moved the mounting hole closer to the outside of the radius on the bracket so it allows the heim to move alot more freely without binding at max angle.

also sent engine out to get freshened up. 347 stroker kit being set up for all low end power.
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Great work. Love the towers. I could have used those for mine!
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wow - if only I had access to the tooling and machines, together with the skills ... !

I never managed to keep a Rover I owned (its the 2nd one, now) in its original shape. So Im not the person to make "prescriptions"
But somehow I like to see these old rigs in original condition, running on sunny weekend days when nobody is in a hurry . While the Defender is prepped for the serious stuff
Amen.

Now - what I really wanted to post is: I am worried about the driveshaft angles. There is some enormous amount of travel of the rear axle shown. And the diff is a low-pinion type. Even if it is tilted upwards a little ... the short driveshaft ... hope the u-joints manage to turn.
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Now - what I really wanted to post is: I am worried about the driveshaft angles. There is some enormous amount of travel of the rear axle shown. And the diff is a low-pinion type. Even if it is tilted upwards a little ... the short driveshaft ... hope the u-joints manage to turn.


Yea, one of my worries aswell, but advanced adapters is helping me out with that im planing on running at atlas with an adapter that is 6" shorter than the one shown in pictures I have posted so by moving it forward it also decreases the angle and I plan on putting a little tilt on the motor to counter the travel.
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Did alittle more messing around with the rover over the weekend. played with 4 link mounting points and brackets a bit and also the mounting points on the rear end.






need to truss it and shit still


top view so far


everything is tacked in for now, headers are otw from summit so i can try to work around motor mounts and then worry about the top links up front.
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Damn. Nice work. There's a bunch of purists rolling in their graves! Interesting Ford 302. I've thought about that. With aluminum heads they're fairly light.

But, you going with a Ford 302 and keeping the drum brakes?
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Damn. Nice work. There's a bunch of purists rolling in their graves! Interesting Ford 302. I've thought about that. With aluminum heads they're fairly light.

But, you going with a Ford 302 and keeping the drum brakes?
Yea Im keeping stock drums for now, I want to upgrade to a 9" front down the road and will put discs on that.
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