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Old 08-28-2008, 11:12 AM   #26 (permalink)
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At the least just names and numbers - I still have my old pirate roster (somewhere) but I don't want to put everyone down without asking. I may go calling up people later..
PMed you my number. Call me for more numbers.
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I went around 99'. I love that place... real nice rock pile at the very end near the river.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:49 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I went around 99'. I love that place... real nice rock pile at the very end near the river.
Hit me with your contact info and I'll add ya to the list!
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Old 08-28-2008, 04:32 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I was there
In fact that was the crew I was in doing the waterbars.
Somehow got missed in the photo , but that's ok I just wanted the trail to stay open , although I hadn't been on it before that workparty day.
Seems a real shame that the forest service let/got us to do all that work then the trail was closed immeditely after
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I am sure you are in the other pictures, added you - thanks!

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Old 08-28-2008, 10:33 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I went there many times in early 2000's,with my old 72 bronco and another person who turned his bronco into a buggy,I liked that trail,close to sac and fun.
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I went there many times in early 2000's,with my old 72 bronco and another person who turned his bronco into a buggy,I liked that trail,close to sac and fun.
PM me your contact info, I need all the names/numbers I can get! Give me your buddies info too!
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:35 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I used the trail a few years back to gain access to the river.

IIRC there was a simliar situation in CO when a guy bought land that had a designated dirt road on it for 100 years and attempted to close it. I am not sure what happened - ultimately though, the guy cut down many trees and tore up the land to prevent access....he ended up being convicted in a case against the USFS.
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:49 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I've been going down there for well over 30 years, used to be a great little peaceful place until

Lets hope the exposure will work in the trails favor this time.

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I ran it a few times. I'll dig around for some pics.

I was also on the cleanup run the day before BLM closed the gate.

We should be able to get copies of the BLM signup sheets from all the meetings we went to prior to it being gated, and prior to access to the gate being blocked.

We should also be able to get a copy of the BLM signup sheet from the cleanup day.
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I ran it a few times. I'll dig around for some pics.

I was also on the cleanup run the day before BLM closed the gate.

We should be able to get copies of the BLM signup sheets from all the meetings we went to prior to it being gated, and prior to access to the gate being blocked.

We should also be able to get a copy of the BLM signup sheet from the cleanup day.
True, but if the BLM wanted to help they would have a long time ago. The process with BLM was never finished so really I don't think they have the right to close the gate on their end but I think they are happy someone else did so personally unless there is no option leaving them out for now sounds good..
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I too have been many times. Great place to watch the rafters go by. I know Ian, Rob, me, the HBRK guys, and a few others I can think of. I will post this on the Zombie site to get some more bites for ya. Pm'd ya.
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True, but if the BLM wanted to help they would have a long time ago.
True -- but they have to respond to a Freedom of Information Request.

FWIW, this BLM has *NO* interested in allowing motorized recreation -- expect a fight at every turn. I'm not saying NOT to fight -- far from it -- but expect a fight.

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The process with BLM was never finished so really I don't think they have the right to close the gate on their end but I think they are happy someone else did so personally unless there is no option leaving them out for now sounds good.
The way I recall it is the BLM was happy to have the gate closed by someone else, but that they completed their management process anyway.

Of course I have tried to repress much of those memories.

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thanks to all, 45 and counting..

True Randii, the BLM is a whole other story..

Worst case we help a few miners get access to their claims and they invite us out to their claim sometime, I don't feel too bad about that..

The thing is were not trying to get access to an off road park, we are proving this road has been open to the public and in use for X amount of years regardless of who owns it (BLM, private, etc).

Tom is fully aware of Al Franklin and the rest of the BLM and he is the one running this show, his choice at this time is to leave BLM out of it but that may change.
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:35 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I have been there numerous times, in fact my buddy used to date the daughter of the people who owned some of the land I think...... I will give him a call.......pm you now lets get this trail open!!!!
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We used to go there almost weekly when I was in highschool. pm'ed ya
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Whatever happened to that club the "Mountain high toys" or whatever they were called? they used to have a website back in the day.....

They had a good number of members, if you could contact them you may get a few more names.


Didn't they do that trail all the time?

Or maybe I am still not thinking of the right place....
All the Mountain High Toys guys still wheel together, we just dont have a club. Brandon pm me an I can hook you up with atleast 20 names of buddies when we used to go there all the time...
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I have been there....went with Bigrob. Fun little trail!!
Yep, goodtimes for sure!!
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Old 09-01-2008, 08:43 AM   #47 (permalink)
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sending the list over tonight - but I can always send revised ones. Most beneficial would be people that have been there for a looong time - say 30 years plus. So ask gramps if he used to go down there
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