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Old 04-02-2013, 11:11 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Guys don't let the momentum up... We have only 20 hours until d-day we need boots on the ground. Everyone needs to get people to the site at 9am... I don't care if they're ohv users... Any freedom loving people should be down to help stop this federal overreach... Share this event with EVERYONE and don't take "I have to work/take care of the kids/walk the dog/take a shit" for an answer... Kidnap them if you have to but make sure they are there at 9am.
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Old 04-02-2013, 11:36 AM   #127 (permalink)
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I agree! We can do this...let's get wheels rolling!

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Old 04-02-2013, 12:00 PM   #128 (permalink)
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I posted on the facebook links and liked Josh's posts. Wish I could show up tomorrow to help... but TX to KY overnight is a long haul
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:15 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Hey gents, eyes on the ground, LEX18 is in the area. They have interviewed one person for sure, and the ranger ran off when the news van pulled up to question them
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i'll be there. tryin to round up as many as i can from the Louisville area. i work 3rd shift and leavin here at 6am. see you guys there bright and early!
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:17 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Not my eyes, just friends who live in the area are updating me on the what's going on.
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Awesome longwood, look forward to seeing you...and keep us posted Josh!
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Old 04-02-2013, 01:40 PM   #133 (permalink)
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I'm a retired USFS LEO and I plan on trying to be there at 9. I know their tactics AND their B.S. I'm not about to let the tree huggers close off another county road.

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Old 04-02-2013, 02:22 PM   #134 (permalink)
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My biggest thing, is what if the news and everyone show up tomorrow to support the reopening, then Friday they do the same thing again after the media and everyone else's attention is elsewhere? How do we keep them from doing so? Reed? Any ideas on how to keep the road open?
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Any ideas on how to keep the road open?
Keep the local government involed and aware of what is at stake if they close down the road/trails! They need to realize how much money we bring and and how much MORE money would be brought in if the worked with us or better yet FOR us (read: Harlan).
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:28 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Video everything tomorrow that way they can't come back and change the story
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Per Judge James Anderson's newest information to me.....

The reopening has been cancelled due to newly raised legal questions that too far risk taxpayer interests of Powell county. The legalities will be answered and we will still work to reopen the county road once the risks are erased. This county road issue is dynamic in nature but one worth pursuing for everyone's benefit.


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Old 04-02-2013, 03:56 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Just got a similar message... One step forward, 2 steps back
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Lex 18 aired the story, and Fox 56 is now investigating.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:37 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Well, this just bites a big one. I hope that the USFS didn't wave some revenue under their noses. The counties get money for schools and a portion from logging sales due to the loss of a tax base created from government land ownership.
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If the issue is not resolved or heading to a definite conclusion by Saturday the 13th of this month I personally plan to take direct action and open the road myself. The outragous overreaches of the federal authorities have to stop and regardless of how the Is are dotted and the Ts crossed it seems to me the PEOPLE have the right to determine the use of their own resources. I urge all of you to join me at 9am on the 13th of this month where we will give the authorities a day to remember! Who's with me?!

Like it says lets get out there and show them that sowing confusion and doubt will not work any better than intimidation. We will not simply let the issue drop... They are our employees and its time they realized it. I WILL run that trail on the 13th and I hope I'll have a lot of company.
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If the issue is not resolved or heading to a definite conclusion by Saturday the 13th of this month I personally plan to take direct action and open the road myself. The outragous overreaches of the federal authorities have to stop and regardless of how the Is are dotted and the Ts crossed it seems to me the PEOPLE have the right to determine the use of their own resources. I urge all of you to join me at 9am on the 13th of this month where we will give the authorities a day to remember! Who's with me?!

Like it says lets get out there and show them that sowing confusion and doubt will not work any better than intimidation. We will not simply let the issue drop... They are our employees and its time they realized it. I WILL run that trail on the 13th and I hope I'll have a lot of company.
man, i respect this 110% and will back you in any way I can, but i'm goin to be in Nashville that weekend. but by god, if you would wanna take the bull by the horns, i got some boys wantin to do some riding the 20th. and the narrows, would be the place to do said riding. strength in numbers, brother
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So who is the one that posted that? The Judge?
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:40 AM   #146 (permalink)
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Guarantee this is the Forest Service stalling somehow after seeing the mounting pressure from you guys. Keep up the pressure and interest. Need to show the federal gov't that they work for us, not the other way around.
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Hey guy, lots of people have been in touch wanting to show support but many say the 20th would be a better day. So the new official date is the 20th of this month. Please spread the word and let everyone know that this time we will not back down! I will continue to be in touch with the media to make sure they are kept informed... I am sure there will be plenty of coverage on the ground at that time.

I would also just like to mention that this in no way detracts from the excellent work judge Anderson is doing. I am confident he is trying his very best and will continue to do so but without support from some other levels of government his hands may be tied. Who knows maybe he does come out on top and the road is open... Maybe our drop dead date will force those in opposition to back down. But in the mean time I say we plan to go at it alone because I suspect that's what it will come down to.
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Hey all for those who might be interested here is a run down of media coverage so far (in order of appearance):
U.S. Forestry Service and Powell County Judge Battle Over Road The Country Classics & The Best Songs From Today | 100.7 The Coyote | WCYO-FM

Powell County Judge Executive and U.S. Division of Forestry Wrangling Over Closed Road | LEX18.com | Lexington, Kentucky

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We have tipped LEX18 about this page so they can follow along with developments and encourage anyone to tip any other media outlets about this page and the event on the 20th. Arrests are far less likely if the media is there so coverage will definitely help us out! Please continue to share this cause with everyone... Just imagine the look on the feds faces if 100+ vehicles show up all at once!

I also encourage you all to contact any politicians you feel like. I will be in touch with the Powell and Wolfe co sheriffs as there presence would be a MAJOR help.
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If 100 people show up to support taking something that is in litigation, we will likely never get the road back open...

Definitely get the information as to why Judge Anderson stopped. There has to be something legal causing the issue.

Having a mob of offroaders and hikers trespass and destroy federal property on a federal wildlife preservation would pretty much destroy any hope of keeping Slade open.

I like the idea, but going in without all the facts could potentially ruin everything for us
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If 100 people show up to support taking something that is in litigation, we will likely never get the road back open...

Definitely get the information as to why Judge Anderson stopped. There has to be something legal causing the issue.

Having a mob of offroaders and hikers trespass and destroy federal property on a federal wildlife preservation would pretty much destroy any hope of keeping Slade open.

I like the idea, but going in without all the facts could potentially ruin everything for us
This would NOT be an illegal action. The law is on OUR side... It is the feds that are doing something illegal.
We need to come prepared... Not as a mob but as an organized group. We must be polite but determined, everyone needs to come armed with the facts and a determination to do what's right.
The folks in Colorado did not have road crews on their side and had way lead media coverage and their situation turned very well. The important thing to remember is that WE are in the right on this issue.
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