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Old 12-01-2019, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I cant find alot of great forums about modding atvs. I dont know about 4wheelers at all i had a sammy for a long time. I hated it it when i first bought it cuz the bump steer was awful. Over the years i gradually fixed the issues one by one and had a great rig. Had to sell it 5 years later and now im trying to ease back in to trail riding now. So i got this brute. Guess what? Bump steer is awful. I have a 2 inch lift i think highlifter. 31 inche out laws on 2 inch wheel spacers. I wanna bend some new a arms and either get custom axle shafts or find some longer ones for another application to delete wheel spacers and lessen the axle shaft angle. Any idea on who may have done this in the past? Or any search terms i could use im not having any luck. Thanks
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Bump steer on a 4 wheeler?? Hear something new everyday. There has to be forums out there, prolly have some for under water basket weaving....
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do you even lift bro
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Old 12-02-2019, 12:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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When you want to trail ride the thing, get rid of the stupid lift, wheelspacers and 31" outlaws. Put some 27" Big Horns on it and go trail riding. Done.
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You need the lift for all the mud down here. Itís just how it is in the flatlands.

Canít help on the lift stuff, but what about running portals?
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Dont have the money for portals man. But i can bend some tubular a arms and move the hubs out far enough to delete the spacers. Just wondrring if theres any one tinkering with this idea too.
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Bump steer on a 4 wheeler?? Hear something new everyday. There has to be forums out there, prolly have some for under water basket weaving....
Yeah what do you call it when you hit a bump on one wheel and the whole godamn thing goes that direction. Cant be fuckin normal. Its the lift and spacers. I cant get rid of the lift but if i stretch the a arms i can delete the spacers and eliminate some of the angle from the axle which should make the birfields a little stronger since theyre maxed out as is.
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When you want to trail ride the thing, get rid of the stupid lift, wheelspacers and 31" outlaws. Put some 27" Big Horns on it and go trail riding. Done.
I agree 31s are a little rediculous but it what i got at the moment. Just spitballing the idea. Hey maybe theres a reason i dont see it done in forums it could be a stupid idea.
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No i didnt install this one anyway. But look me up and see
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I agree 31s are a little rediculous but it what i got at the moment. Just spitballing the idea. Hey maybe theres a reason i dont see it done in forums it could be a stupid idea.
Not a stupid idea, we are just in a bolt on society. You buy a kit, you bolt it on and go.

If you do this, I suggest arched lowers, for better Ground clearance.
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Not a stupid idea, we are just in a bolt on society. You buy a kit, you bolt it on and go.

If you do this, I suggest arched lowers, for better Ground clearance.
good idea. id like to use 1.25 sh 40 pipe for the control arms. ive gotten tired of spending big $ on dom when pipe will do.
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Have you been over here yet?:

https://www.mudinmyblood.net/forum/23-kawasaki/

I have a 650 Prairie, and there is a lot of great info on that site.

That being said, does your quad still have the sway bar on it? I rode a Brute a few weeks ago that had a lift and no sway bar, and the thing was an absolute death trap. I'm not sure how the guy made it through the day without crashing his brains out. He didn't have wheel spacers to widen it, either. It would start to wallow around at speed and you just had to stop before it went where it wanted to go.
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Have you been over here yet?:

https://www.mudinmyblood.net/forum/23-kawasaki/

I have a 650 Prairie, and there is a lot of great info on that site.

That being said, does your quad still have the sway bar on it? I rode a Brute a few weeks ago that had a lift and no sway bar, and the thing was an absolute death trap. I'm not sure how the guy made it through the day without crashing his brains out. He didn't have wheel spacers to widen it, either. It would start to wallow around at speed and you just had to stop before it went where it wanted to go.
Yeah shes got a rear sway bar. Im on mud inmyblood under same name. Im thinkin its a combo of spacers and tie rods out of angle due to the lift. Tore the rear apart today looking at another issue. May play with it while its broke down.
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Also may want to check to see which side of the steering arms the tie rods are supposed to be on. I have a 2014 rzr 800 that was set up at max height for mud riding, and had some noticeable bump steer... turns out a lot of the mud guys put the tie rods on top of the steering knuckles thinking it'll give them more travel. in reality it fawks up the tie rod to a-arm geometry and leads to bump steer.
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Also may want to check to see which side of the steering arms the tie rods are supposed to be on. I have a 2014 rzr 800 that was set up at max height for mud riding, and had some noticeable bump steer... turns out a lot of the mud guys put the tie rods on top of the steering knuckles thinking it'll give them more travel. in reality it fawks up the tie rod to a-arm geometry and leads to bump steer.
My tie rods come into the top of the knuckles but i think thats normal cuz theres a recess for the washer and nylock on the bottom of the bolt point. on the pivot point on top of the front 3rd looks like their bolted to the correct location also.
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