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Old 09-10-2018, 06:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Finding ZPPD oil in Europe

I bought this new engine GM 5.7L 350 Gen 1 Truck Crate Engine 210HP
12681430

Can someone help me what oil can i buy in Europe that is compatible with this flat tappet cams? Only suggestion i get until now is Mobil Super FE 5W30

The engine will be used in offroad buggy

EDIT: Sorry i meant ZDDP

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Old 09-10-2018, 08:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Starting in '87, chevy v-8s used roller tappet cams, so if it is newer than that you won't need high zddp oil. Does oil in europe have the low zddp formula the US has now? Maybe it's still good there. I know the older Porsche 911 aircooled engines need high zinc oil, so there must be good oil or supplements available. Otherwise order supplements from Ebay or Summit or someone who will ship it over.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello,

the engine is brand new GM crate motor, but it still has flat tappet cam according to specifications. Not sure can i just use a good quality oil and put ZDDP additive i can buy on ebay. I tried sending e-mails to all major oil suppliers of engine oil in Europe (Castrol, Eneos, Mobil, Valvoline...), all said they dont have compatible oil

I would like to avoid ordering oil from USA.

TECH SPECS:
•Horsepower: 210 at 4000 RPM
•Torque: 300 ft/lbs at 2800 RPM
•Cast Iron Block (2-Bolt Main Caps, 1-Piece Rear Seal)
•1-Piece Nodular Iron Crankshaft
•Dished Hypereutectic Pistons
•Powdered Metal Connecting Rods
•Compression Ratio: 9.4 to 1
•Morse Link-Type Timing Chain
•Flat Tappet Hydraulic Camshaft
•Camshaft Lift: .382" Intake, .402" Exhaust
•Camshaft Duration at .050": 165° Intake, 174° Exhaust
•Valve Size: 1.94" Intake, 1.50" Exhaust
•Centerbolt Cylinder Heads (65.3cc Chambers)
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What do you have in diesel oils?

Anything like Rotella, Delvac, etc?
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Yes you can use a zddp supplement with low zinc oil. Apparently the current part number is 12568758, and it's the same as the 12681430, 87-95 TBI truck engine. The specs here on this ebay page do say flat tappet, which I find surprising, maybe even a typo. I thought those were exactly the engines that went to hydraulic roller cams. In any event, it is a very low performance engine with a low lift/duration cam, and it would probably be fine even on low zddp oil. But you could also search locally for oil that meets the Porsche air cooled 911 spec, and that would be ideal oil if it really is a flat tappet cam.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-OEM-NEW-...QAAOSwjZVazkIL
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If you can get Amsoil over there you could run Zrod 10w-30. It is high zinc content.
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Im also surprised it is a flat tappet engine, since this are not rebuilt but brand new engines. The GM site also says flat tappet, so im afraid it is not a typo.

I will buy ZDDP plus additive and good quality oil. The only oil that could be compatible i found in Europe is Royal Purple HSP, but that oil is 3 times more expensive than Mobil for example.
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If you can get Amsoil over there you could run Zrod 10w-30. It is high zinc content.
Bingo, thank you! I found this oil in Germany, price is OK, i will order it now. Excellent!
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