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03-18-2020 06:45 PM
defbob I got my chromoly ‘05 SD 1550 stub shafts and Spicer blue joints from ECGS today. The custom length chromoly inners are being made right now.
03-17-2020 08:41 AM
wellstig1
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Originally Posted by welndmn View Post
I can't find the answer so I need to be spoon fed, Can you swap (Kunckles out) the 2013 brakes on to the 2005+ to get the bigger brakes?
It's a direct swap the inners c's haven't changed since 05, my axle has these on ot. My 17" atx chamber beadlocks only have an 1/8" of caliper clearance, the are probably tons of 17s that will not clear the calipers though.
03-16-2020 12:22 PM
FORDTECHGURU
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Originally Posted by rockyota83 View Post
fwiw i think around 2017 they changed the casting of the knuckles to reduce the amount of material used so they should be lighter

edit; they put a "window" in it

17-up casting is very different.. pic looks like a 13-16, 17 has ears for the brake shield..
03-16-2020 12:20 PM
FORDTECHGURU Yes, the dc34-a casting is the 13-16 stuff..
03-16-2020 08:22 AM
welndmn I can't find the answer so I need to be spoon fed, Can you swap (Kunckles out) the 2013 brakes on to the 2005+ to get the bigger brakes?
03-14-2020 03:43 PM
KRISKYK How much stronger is the 10" Dana 60 Ring and Pinion?
03-14-2020 01:47 PM
rockyota83 bouncer + stock shafts =
03-14-2020 05:15 AM
kottunmewth Ok, I searched found this thread. It's way to long for my ADD self to wade through. Question I have is weather to spend the $1300 to upgrade to chromo 1550 shaft or stick with stock 1550 shaft and have money to go arb.

I'm biulding a bouncer type crawler buggy with 05 SD axles, mild 5.3l ls th400 4401 transfer, is there a need to upgrade to chromo shaft on the 05+ SD axles?

I've read we're guys running them have no issues with the bj axle breaking C or knuckles, once in a while might bend a balljoint, or break a stock hub but haven't heard much about shafts breaking unless there really abusing it. I'm hinged on buying a Rockwell but I've got this set I bought for a mud rig. I just want to spend my money wisely, and not throw a lot at this set just to regret I didn't go rockwell.
03-04-2020 12:27 PM
rockyota83 fwiw i think around 2017 they changed the casting of the knuckles to reduce the amount of material used so they should be lighter

edit; they put a "window" in it

03-04-2020 12:09 PM
Gozuki Everything is bigger on the 05+, so it's going to weigh more.
03-04-2020 12:00 PM
Blase Lots of pages of great information here!! I searched and could not find the answer i'm looking for.

My question: What is the weight difference between 99-04 and 05+?

Specifically if I build a 9" using only the inner knuckles out which would weigh more assuming everything inside the knuckles is exactly the same.
03-04-2020 06:10 AM
ToyotaJeep Ok. I need to get to work but a quick search shows an assembled UD60 inner with 1550 joints etc. is $180 and 33.75.

That is probably as close as I am going to get, and it should get me down to 66" wide plus or minus.

Thank you so much. Now time for more research.
03-04-2020 05:48 AM
DMANbluesfreak Ultimate Dana 60.

https://spicerparts.com/en-emear/par...-60-front-axle
03-04-2020 05:44 AM
ToyotaJeep Just to clarify, as I am new to this model of axle:

1. What is a UD60? What application?

If I could buy new assembled shafts that were 1550 sized and a little shorter on the long side that would be sweet. I'd buy some spares and not worry about it.

Thank you for your input. That helps.
03-03-2020 10:40 PM
HEEPJEEP
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Originally Posted by ToyotaJeep View Post
I thank you all for your help. I hear you on the width thing. I just would like to keep it "sorta" street legal as far as width goes. I do like the idea of just getting a spare set of axles and not having custom stuff. It is for a build down the road so no hurry at this point.
UD60 shafts are the same length as the 78-79 Ford, dirt cheap chromo 1550, and "people" keep them in stock. The new 1550 chromos in whatever custom length you want these same "people" have in stock for 05+ and can get in about 2 week lead time for custom.
03-01-2020 09:20 AM
ToyotaJeep I thank you all for your help. I hear you on the width thing. I just would like to keep it "sorta" street legal as far as width goes. I do like the idea of just getting a spare set of axles and not having custom stuff. It is for a build down the road so no hurry at this point.
02-28-2020 12:24 PM
JohnnyJ
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Originally Posted by paradisePWoffrd View Post
If my searching is correct; the 05+ long side is 41 3/8" and WMS is ~72". To get to 63, you would want a ~32 3/8" inner.

The closest factory 35 spline inner would likely be 78-79 Ford at 34.5". That would give you ~65" wms.

The earlier fords had shorter long side, but aftermarket shafts seem to be non existent.
I run a 34.55" 78/79 F250 shaft and my front axle is 67.625" with no trimming to driver's side.
02-28-2020 11:23 AM
rockyota83 fwiw youre gonna regret making that d60 63" wide if you ever go bigger tires, i made my 14b front 63" and when i went to 43" stickies it was too narrow, wish i had made it 67"
02-28-2020 06:46 AM
paradisePWoffrd
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Originally Posted by ToyotaJeep View Post
I am looking at narrowing my front SD60 to the same width as a C and C 14 bolt, 63" WMS to WMS. I want to keep the drivers side stock as there is little room there right now.

Is there a chart of axles that fit the inner length on this axle? I have seen it for older axles. I am just wondering if there is an OEM axle that would interchange.

Maybe I just need to buy new which is fine, or get one shortened.
If my searching is correct; the 05+ long side is 41 3/8" and WMS is ~72". To get to 63, you would want a ~32 3/8" inner.

The closest factory 35 spline inner would likely be 78-79 Ford at 34.5". That would give you ~65" wms.

The earlier fords had shorter long side, but aftermarket shafts seem to be non existent.
02-27-2020 08:01 PM
Unklhuck
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Originally Posted by rapier46 View Post
No water, 5400lb Tacoma. Trepadors



I have the 1480 shafts. And a spare complete left and right shaft as well as an extra 1480 ujoint just in case


My prediction, with that combo and your mention of being mellow with the pedal, is that they will last longer than you think.
02-27-2020 05:08 PM
[486]
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Originally Posted by UPNO4 View Post
I would never back off a Pinion nut especially with a crush sleeve. Taking a big risk there. 10-15 is good for used bearings and they do run warmer than expected. just my opinion.
this
if you don't burn yourself, it's cool enough
run synth 75w90, thicker oils run hotter
02-27-2020 12:05 PM
rapier46
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Originally Posted by Unklhuck View Post
Water usage & Brand of 42ís will play into the fusible link equation, quite a bit.
No water, 5400lb Tacoma. Trepadors

I have the 1480 shafts. And a spare complete left and right shaft as well as an extra 1480 ujoint just in case
02-27-2020 10:15 AM
Unklhuck
info on Ford Super Duty Dana 60 axle

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Originally Posted by rapier46 View Post
Anyone running a stock sd60 with sticky 42s? Whatís gonna break haha. Aside from my tcase probably giving up the ghost first, Iím thinking probably shafts before the diff or balljoints let go. Low power, gentle driver.


Water usage & Brand of 42ís will play into the fusible link equation, quite a bit.
02-27-2020 09:26 AM
rapier46 Anyone running a stock sd60 with sticky 42s? What’s gonna break haha. Aside from my tcase probably giving up the ghost first, I’m thinking probably shafts before the diff or balljoints let go. Low power, gentle driver.
02-27-2020 07:25 AM
UPNO4 I would never back off a Pinion nut especially with a crush sleeve. Taking a big risk there. 10-15 is good for used bearings and they do run warmer than expected. just my opinion.
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