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08-15-2019 01:18 AM
Dmgiff Well this was a letdown... I thought this was a helicopter thread.
08-14-2019 07:13 PM
bdkw1
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Originally Posted by Crisbee1 View Post
Helicopters
Funny, when I saw "R22 going through the roof" I instantly thought it was a heli crash.
08-14-2019 06:56 PM
[486]
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Originally Posted by 87manche View Post
propane and propane accessories.....
hank motherfucking hill to the rescue. Call it R-290 if you're a prude

bernz-o-matic is dry propane, unlike the shit you get in bulk that's got gasoline and other residuals in it

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Originally Posted by Peow130 View Post
I know a guy that has a bottle of R12 in his garage... is that shit worth anything?
it's actually come down quite a bit lately
getting to the point that nothing in service is using it, so soon enough it's worthless
kind of funny, in '08 or so production of r-22 was ramped so damn high to deal with the coming panic buys that I was seeing it at $60 a 30lb can
08-14-2019 04:27 PM
Peow130 I know a guy that has a bottle of R12 in his garage... is that shit worth anything?
08-14-2019 03:53 PM
87manche
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Originally Posted by budget76 View Post
funny this thread just bumped. been looking at a "new" toy car and was thinking if I buy something older and want the AC working, i've got to deal with the lack of R12 recharging PITA.

then the thought went to fawk it, I don't need AC. though having it has spoiled me
propane and propane accessories.....
08-14-2019 03:07 PM
budget76 funny this thread just bumped. been looking at a "new" toy car and was thinking if I buy something older and want the AC working, i've got to deal with the lack of R12 recharging PITA.

then the thought went to fawk it, I don't need AC. though having it has spoiled me
08-14-2019 02:59 PM
AGUNTHER
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Originally Posted by Crisbee1 View Post
Helicopters
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Gotta go uhh.... uhhh... do something.
08-14-2019 02:57 PM
LeadfootCJ7 I sold 5 full 30lb bottles over the kart couple of months. It certainly is worth $$
08-14-2019 02:49 PM
Crisbee1
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Originally Posted by AGUNTHER View Post
We are talking gunpowder arenít we?

Helicopters
08-14-2019 02:23 PM
AGUNTHER What are you reloading? My Dad uses r-22 for his 7mm stw bit has other options I could recommend that are cheaper.

We are talking gunpowder arenít we?
08-14-2019 11:17 AM
BIG-O I wonder how much it is in Mexico? Can you buy there and bring it over? What's the concenquences for getting caught.
A local wholesaler was telling me that he has contractors tell him they have been putting 422b right on top of 22.
08-14-2019 10:57 AM
thumping
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Originally Posted by Gittinwidit View Post
Thread Bump... We're coming down to the line! Just got the official word this morning that it's still on for any of us with an older system such as myself. AC systems are suggested to last 15 years before replacement. I know of several that's in their 30 year run. Even having parts custom made so that they can still operate. Mine's currently 15 years and running strong. My last one went 22 years.

"As per the US Environmental Protection Agency, R22 refrigerant will become illegal in the United States on January 1, 2020. After that R22 refrigerant phase out date, R22 refrigerant can no longer be manufactured or imported into the US".

"Jan 1'st 2020. At this point, R22 will no longer be manufactured and cannot be used as a refrigerant in new air conditioning systems. R22 is being replaced by R-410A, a safer material which is the current, compliant standard refrigerant in air conditioning equipment".

"When did AC units stop using r22?
January 1, 2015: By this date there would be ban on the sale and use of R22. There is exception for certain cases, including the serving needs of the existing refrigeration and air conditioning equipment. January 1, 2020: By this date there would complete ban on the production and import of R22 refrigerant."
Sounds like a market for our brethren to the south to supply...
08-14-2019 10:53 AM
Gittinwidit
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Originally Posted by RedPurdueYJ View Post
LOL
I did a quick 2 second search on google for "r-22".

First result was from the EPA. Not making this shit up.

Fuck the government.

http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phas...2phaseout.html
Thread Bump... We're coming down to the line! Just got the official word this morning that it's still on for any of us with an older system such as myself. AC systems are suggested to last 15 years before replacement. I know of several that's in their 30 year run. Even having parts custom made so that they can still operate. Mine's currently 15 years and running strong. My last one went 22 years.

"As per the US Environmental Protection Agency, R22 refrigerant will become illegal in the United States on January 1, 2020. After that R22 refrigerant phase out date, R22 refrigerant can no longer be manufactured or imported into the US".

"Jan 1'st 2020. At this point, R22 will no longer be manufactured and cannot be used as a refrigerant in new air conditioning systems. R22 is being replaced by R-410A, a safer material which is the current, compliant standard refrigerant in air conditioning equipment".

"When did AC units stop using r22?
January 1, 2015: By this date there would be ban on the sale and use of R22. There is exception for certain cases, including the serving needs of the existing refrigeration and air conditioning equipment. January 1, 2020: By this date there would complete ban on the production and import of R22 refrigerant."
01-25-2012 07:07 AM
Hoss50 From what I am hearing the refrigerant manufacturers cut R-22 production by 43%, causing the price spike. Part of me thinks this is the GOVT stepping on the manufacturers to try and kill the dry R22 units still in production. The ban the manufacture of units that contain R22, but they found a loop hole in the law and started producing the units charges with nitrogen that are still R22. I bet the GOVT didn't like this and this may be there way of stepping on that market without actually changing the law.

The dry R22 market in AZ and CA is huge. We sold ALOT of them over the last year or so.

Harley
01-25-2012 06:48 AM
Cue-Ball R-22 through the roof??? You'd get much better energy savings by using R-30 in the attic.
01-25-2012 06:08 AM
cottonmouth So the proposed phase out of r22 has been out for a while now. I've only sold/installed 2 r22 units in the last 5 years since I've known about it...... gotta love how everyone freaks out when the inevitable happens!!! And the price went up because the only r22 that is available from now on is recaptured and recycled gas.....
01-25-2012 05:43 AM
samurai4u any one bought any hp81
01-24-2012 11:27 PM
77bawls
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Originally Posted by 88bigvan View Post
Corrected
Nope, R22. R134a is closer to R12.

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Originally Posted by Cuda K5 View Post
I believe this phase out also includes propane. Hank hill is in deep shit
01-24-2012 11:12 PM
RedPurdueYJ
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Originally Posted by Cuda K5 View Post
I believe this phase out also includes propane. Hank hill is in deep shit
People that live out in the sticks are going to revolt.

No gas company is going to lay gas line for 2 miles to serve maybe 1 or 2 customers.




Unless of course they nationalize the utilities. :tinfoil:
01-24-2012 11:06 PM
Cuda K5 I believe this phase out also includes propane. Hank hill is in deep shit
01-24-2012 11:05 PM
Cuda K5 Yes, the phase out stages are as that link states, but there is nothing for 2012. I wonder if the dry 22 units drove up the production of 22 requireing them to put a cap on production this year....
01-24-2012 11:00 PM
RedPurdueYJ LOL
I did a quick 2 second search on google for "r-22".

First result was from the EPA. Not making this shit up.

Fuck the government.

http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phas...2phaseout.html
01-24-2012 10:58 PM
RedPurdueYJ
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Originally Posted by Cuda K5 View Post
Basically whoever is supplying refrigerent decided to produce less this year to drive prices up
I'd check around. make sure there were no back door epa shit that was enacted.
01-24-2012 10:55 PM
Cuda K5 Basically whoever is supplying refrigerent decided to produce less this year to drive prices up
01-24-2012 10:53 PM
88bigvan
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Originally Posted by 77bawls View Post
Propane is almost identical to R-12.
Corrected
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