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07-13-2016 10:40 AM
usmcdoc14
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Originally Posted by smurfblue40 View Post


There are a few videos out there of guys learning about "Back blast area" the hard way
Like I said, " the bad end" or the " hey, it's not a good idea to fire this thing from inside a closed room"
07-13-2016 10:19 AM
Sin52
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Originally Posted by IEATRKS84 View Post
Don't be a cunt. They're guided by optical sensors relative from the sight to the tip of the Missle. The "W" is for "wire guided" which relates to how the data is transmitted, not the guidance. Read up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BGM-71_TOW
An optical sensor on the sight continuously monitors the position of a light source on the missile relative to the line-of-sight, and then corrects the trajectory of the missile by generating electrical signals that are passed down two wires to command the control surface actuators.[5] After launch, the operator simply has to keep the cross-hairs of his sight pointing at the target, and the guidance system will automatically transmit corrective commands to the missile through the wire.
07-13-2016 09:56 AM
smithkp
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Originally Posted by JimKyser View Post
TOW = Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire command link guided Missile

What exactly are these communications being transmitted to the missile through the wire? Is it passing audio from the user's iPhone so the target gets to hear something like a ring back tone before it goes boom? Is the missile sending back selfies?

No, it is how guidance information is sent to the missile. The missile is guided by the communications sent down the wire.
Save your keystrokes. That dude is hard headed as fuck and has zero experience with TOW but he will argue the fuck out of his "knowledge".
07-13-2016 09:39 AM
JimKyser
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Originally Posted by IEATRKS84 View Post
Ignorant? Youre the retard who doesn't understand that the "wire" doesn't "guide" the missle. It translates communications.
TOW = Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire command link guided Missile

What exactly are these communications being transmitted to the missile through the wire? Is it passing audio from the user's iPhone so the target gets to hear something like a ring back tone before it goes boom? Is the missile sending back selfies?

No, it is how guidance information is sent to the missile. The missile is guided by the communications sent down the wire.
07-13-2016 09:27 AM
smurfblue40
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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14 View Post
So by "bit of training" you mean:
That is the bad end.


There are a few videos out there of guys learning about "Back blast area" the hard way
07-13-2016 08:58 AM
IEATRKS84
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Originally Posted by paragon View Post
still trying to hide from your original ignorant comment
Ignorant? Youre the retard who doesn't understand that the "wire" doesn't "guide" the missle. It translates communications.
07-13-2016 08:50 AM
rugger
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Originally Posted by NOODLES View Post
They are burried out there. I work with a marine mechanic. He tells me about all the cool shit that does not get ised and just dumped.
And, that is why our politicians need to go home for good. There was probably a $4M contract to buy generators/welders. In turn, Miller contributes $.6M to someone's campaign.
07-13-2016 08:18 AM
87manche
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Originally Posted by smithkp View Post
I guess anything is possible. Especially with the Russians habits of getting down and dirty with their aircraft in injun territory. I have video of them making numerous gun runs in Aleppo and never went above 100 feet and kept coming in on the same bearing on their gun runs. More videos of the fixed wing aircraft flying along power lines and damn near scraping them.
their air force culture is still like 1930's barnstormers.
We got all by the book, they're still cowboys in mach 2 fighters having a good time.
07-13-2016 08:08 AM
camo
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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14 View Post
So by "bit of training" you mean:
That is the bad end.
Don't forget the cooler and snacks for the HMMWV.
Don't use your happy sock to clean the FLIR lens.
Packing foam makes a decent pillow.
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Originally Posted by EasyXJ View Post
This isn't the "you laugh, you lose" thread damnit.... Happy sock got me.
Goddamn it,
not only did I lose I spit my coffee out.
07-13-2016 07:51 AM
JunkyTJ
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Originally Posted by Landslide View Post
How did they know how to use it?
By Allah’s grace alone, the soldiers of the Khilafah launched an attack with heavy weapons."

07-13-2016 07:50 AM
NOODLES
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Originally Posted by rugger View Post


They are burried out there. I work with a marine mechanic. He tells me about all the cool shit that does not get ised and just dumped.
07-13-2016 07:19 AM
smithkp I guess anything is possible. Especially with the Russians habits of getting down and dirty with their aircraft in injun territory. I have video of them making numerous gun runs in Aleppo and never went above 100 feet and kept coming in on the same bearing on their gun runs. More videos of the fixed wing aircraft flying along power lines and damn near scraping them.
07-13-2016 07:07 AM
paragon
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Originally Posted by smithkp View Post
If they did actually use a TOW, wouldn't that have been a luck shot unless the helo was right on top of them? The video I saw looked like the helo was a long way out there.

Then again, Taliban have shot down helos with RPG's.
from the video it looks like one of the unguided rockets he was firing failed. there is another flash below the flash of the the last rocket right before the tail flashed
07-13-2016 07:02 AM
smithkp If they did actually use a TOW, wouldn't that have been a luck shot unless the helo was right on top of them? The video I saw looked like the helo was a long way out there.

Then again, Taliban have shot down helos with RPG's.
07-13-2016 07:02 AM
paragon
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Originally Posted by IEATRKS84 View Post
Do you understand the words you are typing?
still trying to hide from your original ignorant comment
07-13-2016 06:33 AM
rugger
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Originally Posted by NOODLES View Post
Do these dim wits understand what we do with the shit we send over there? It gets "destroyed" in a dump by simply burrying it so that anybody that owns a shovel can dig out. How about a nice miller bobcat?


07-13-2016 06:17 AM
EasyXJ
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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14 View Post
So by "bit of training" you mean:
That is the bad end.
Don't forget the cooler and snacks for the HMMWV.
Don't use your happy sock to clean the FLIR lens.
Packing foam makes a decent pillow.
This isn't the "you laugh, you lose" thread damnit.... Happy sock got me.
07-13-2016 06:14 AM
usmcdoc14
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Originally Posted by smurfblue40 View Post
That was my "Job" for nine years. There is no instruction plate on that set up. You need a bit of training to make it go BANG and make it count.


*TOW = Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire command link guided Missile
So by "bit of training" you mean:
That is the bad end.
Don't forget the cooler and snacks for the HMMWV.
Don't use your happy sock to clean the FLIR lens.
Packing foam makes a decent pillow.
07-13-2016 03:34 AM
Landslide
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Originally Posted by smurfblue40 View Post
That was my "Job" for nine years. There is no instruction plate on that set up. You need a bit of training to make it go BANG and make it count.


*TOW = Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire command link guided Missile
HA! Take dat you beitches.
07-13-2016 03:11 AM
IEATRKS84
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Originally Posted by paragon View Post
they are guided by the user. they are not fire and forget "guided by optical sensors"

it's flight path is controlled by wire.... it's fly by wire

the wire "guides" the data that the user inputs, period.

cunt
Do you understand the words you are typing?
07-12-2016 11:23 PM
smurfblue40
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Originally Posted by Landslide View Post
How did they know how to use it?
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Originally Posted by usmcdoc14 View Post
Followed the instructions
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Originally Posted by camo View Post
You mean the ones stenciled on the launcher ? Go figure
That was my "Job" for nine years. There is no instruction plate on that set up. You need a bit of training to make it go BANG and make it count.


*TOW = Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire command link guided Missile
07-12-2016 09:32 PM
NOODLES
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Originally Posted by camo View Post
The picture I had in my head was from the LAW rocket, pretty much any 6th grader could pick it up and figure out how to fire it. I'd think the TOW would be more sofisticated but maybe have the same concept ?
So it should be "english reading isis member shoots down russian helicopter after reading the instructions"


Do these dim wits understand what we do with the shit we send over there? It gets "destroyed" in a dump by simply burrying it so that anybody that owns a shovel can dig out. How about a nice miller bobcat?

Of it does not get burried, it gets given to we think are on our side, if those people do bot switch to the other side, they get killed and their weapons taken.

Maybe eric holder gave them the tow system?
07-12-2016 09:22 PM
paragon
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Originally Posted by IEATRKS84 View Post
Don't be a cunt. They're guided by optical sensors relative from the sight to the tip of the Missle. The "W" is for "wire guided" which relates to how the data is transmitted, not the guidance. Read up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BGM-71_TOW
they are guided by the user. they are not fire and forget "guided by optical sensors"

it's flight path is controlled by wire.... it's fly by wire

the wire "guides" the data that the user inputs, period.

cunt
07-12-2016 09:11 PM
Jam Master Jay As a kid I got to use a TOW simulator at a national guard public deal. The guy operating it gave me two directions, press the trigger when the sight is on the target and keep the sight on the target til it blows up. I was hitting just about everything they had in the simulation. If I was able to do it as a kid no doubt anyone could use one.
07-12-2016 07:31 PM
1RUSTYRIG
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Originally Posted by camo View Post
The picture I had in my head was from the LAW rocket, pretty much any 6th grader could pick it up and figure out how to fire it. I'd think the TOW would be more sofisticated but maybe have the same concept ?
In its most basic form it is stupid simple...just as simple as the law right up to the point you fire it it... Law rocket you drop it and move on where the tow you have to keep the sight on the target as it is guided munitions. The later generations (like IEATRKS84 is referring to) has "bolt on" accessories that provide enhanced optics (thermal/IR) and RTAS goodies.
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