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09-03-2019 05:04 AM
Talon2006
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Originally Posted by vrt1993 View Post
sub'd because I'm looking at doing this myself. Howdy from a fellow houston-ite

also where do you buy your DOM in town?
I got it from EMJ metals... but I had to call them a few times before they gave me a decent price.

Brookshire is the only other place I know that sells DOM for a decent price. Defiantly post up where you got it from and how much you paid.

I know the triple S steel surplus yard currently has some 2" .165" boiler tube in it as well. I am debating picking up a few sticks of that today.
08-29-2019 07:04 AM
vrt1993 sub'd because I'm looking at doing this myself. Howdy from a fellow houston-ite

also where do you buy your DOM in town?
08-25-2019 06:49 PM
Talon2006 ]I knew I wanted to have bent arms on this, mostly to help clear he frame and tires. Had a TON of people tell me it wouldn’t work, or that I would never get them right. I had a buddy who gave me some 2” conduit to practice on.... first try I realized I was going to spend a ton in tubing to get it right. I ordered bend tech and was quickly happy with the progress I made. I emailed Ron and he let me upgrade to 3d and even gave me a military discount.

Had I not spent the cash on this program I know my arms would not have turned out as well.... and probably would have spent more in tubing the the program was.




As you can see... the first prototypes were ok... but here are what I ended up with. This was bent out of 2” .25 dom with my gettofab air over hydraulic mount made out of exhaust clamps.




Came out pretty bitching. Next up was throwing them on the truck. I wish I had more pictures of installing them... but 1. It was hot as balls. 2. I’m pretty sure my phone took a shit and I lost a ton of photos.



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07-29-2019 06:27 AM
Boomtacoma01 Yep that was me.
07-26-2019 04:58 PM
Talon2006
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Originally Posted by Boomtacoma01 View Post
Looks great. Gotta love Apt Fab. I used to do the same shit when I lived off of Holly Hall over in the Med Center around 10 years ago..
That is very close to where I live!!! haha

Didn't I meet you at Cars and Coffee with Leadfoot and Rttoy?
07-26-2019 07:56 AM
Boomtacoma01 Looks great. Gotta love Apt Fab. I used to do the same shit when I lived off of Holly Hall over in the Med Center around 10 years ago..
07-24-2019 04:51 PM
Talon2006
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Originally Posted by jedrattle View Post
I love it! I'm wanting to long arm my 3rd gen and add Deavors out back with a set of Foxes or Kings. What joints did you use and what bolt size? What's the Dom spec? Bent on your bender?

They are Johnny Joints. 2.63" and 9/16" Grade 8 bolts. I would love to do coil overs on my truck but don't have the cash for it right now....

I used 2" .25" DOM and bent it on my Model 32 bender.

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Originally Posted by TireFryerSS View Post
When do I bring my '97 F250 over so we can do this with a radius arm D60 from an 08 F350?
Don't you have a big shop....? You rather fab in the parking lot of my apartment complex? lol
02-17-2019 07:49 PM
Talon2006 Figured I better add to this. Track bar build.

I was unsure of how my stock track bar was going to hold up, and was pretty nervous about this whole project working. I think I actually started the track bar before everything else... minus having the brackets on and done.



There was a lot of holding the bracket up under my truck, using a magnet to hold on a piece of steel, walking the 400 yards to the garage to tac weld it, walking back and finding out it moved just a hair grinding it off and repeating. Eventually after about 20 trips I got it right.

The previous post showed the tubing and joints I got from barns4x4. Essentially all the dom, inserts and links was about 100 bucks. I used 1 5/8Ē wide links as this fit the stock bracket down on the axle. (Though I ended up having to grind it down a tad. The lower link was a barns4x4 generic heim and the top is a Johnny joint.



Few more pics of the bracket bolted up.





Got this band saw from Guidolyons and it has been awesome!



Something else worth noting. The general consensus on having a steering system that eliminates bump steer is ensure the track bar and drag link are both the same length and parallel. I could not find any info thought that said how much you could be off and still be ok. Writing this 6 months after the build I canít remember for sure but I think I ended up 3 degrees off and my track bar a few inches longer. My big issue was my drag link had a slight bend so figuring out the overall slow was difficult. String method didnít get me super accurate readings either. Needless to say I donít have any bump steer:


I used a ratchet strap to get it where I wanted the track bar and drilled the hole. Then took everything off. Welded it up and installed it.


You can see I have a lot of extra room below the hole. This is anticipating lifting the truck more and using a drop pittman arm. I can just re-drill the hole and not have to make a whole new bracket.


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11-13-2018 09:39 PM
TireFryerSS When do I bring my '97 F250 over so we can do this with a radius arm D60 from an 08 F350?
11-12-2018 06:33 AM
jedrattle I love it! I'm wanting to long arm my 3rd gen and add Deavors out back with a set of Foxes or Kings. What joints did you use and what bolt size? What's the Dom spec? Bent on your bender?
10-04-2018 05:26 AM
Talon2006
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I got a driveway you can use to weld in so you dont get booted from the apartment.
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Just so you know he ainít lying.
This was probably the smartest thing I did for the hole build. I am in gradute school now so I spend most of my time in the AC studying, if not I am in a freezing cold school or OR.


The Texas sun was brutal. I almost quit the project a few times due to it. Once I got that side up it made all the difference! I could work for 2-3 hours without a break where before I was taking one every 15 min to hour.
10-04-2018 05:24 AM
Talon2006
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Originally Posted by rugby View Post
I got a driveway you can use to weld in so you dont get booted from the apartment.
Do you have a plasma cutter/220 hookup? I might need to take you up on that!


It is almost a game now. How much can I get away with before I get booted.
10-03-2018 07:37 PM
rugby I got a driveway you can use to weld in so you dont get booted from the apartment.
10-03-2018 07:20 PM
Rttoys
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Originally Posted by guidolyons View Post
^^^ This is the best part.
Just so you know he ainít lying.
10-03-2018 06:46 PM
guidolyons
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Originally Posted by Talon2006 View Post
Incase you donít know I did all this in the parking lot of my apartment complex.
^^^ This is the best part.
09-29-2018 09:28 PM
Talon2006
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Originally Posted by TrailTamer XJ View Post
Nice fab and well thought out on design! This is to improve off road ability?

I have 97 Ram 2500 and also wanted long arms but it’s not my off road rig, more of a tow rig/multiple purpose truck. I’ve learned that the stock, short arms up front really is OK for ride quality. It’s the rear that what ruin the ride quality. Either a bit of weight in the bed or proper (aka heavy) tongue weight make it ride nice.
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turned out good. looks similar to the dodge offroad arms. Have you noticed a difference in ride quality?
I have taken this truck offroad at the beach a handful of times. There was also one other incident we will not talk about...

That being said my reasons for building this are as follows.
1. I really wanted to build something to expand my skills.
2. It rides like shit as is.
3. It would be better offroad. @guidolyonsis my witness, I showed my wife a picture of a dodge that was bobbed off into a truggy and she said it was cool. This truck might end up that way someday... I figured If I was going to do anything with the front suspension I might as well go all out, so I won't have to change it later.

This project started with me just wanting to build slightly longer short arms... but when I figured the price for the DOM, Joints and other stuff, that would be stupid and I should just build the long arm. Considering I had to buy a full stick of DOM anyways for short or long arms... the bracket added about 30 bucks to the build.


Now, as far as ride quality.

Once I got this together, with my old blown out shocks I drove this around really quick and it was amazing how much better the ride quality was just from the long arms. I ordered some bilstein 5100's and now the truck cruses like a dream. I took the wife for her first ride today and she noticed a huge difference, and said it rode better then her Chevy cruz. It very profound the difference this made in ride quality. Now I still need to get a proper alignment done.
09-29-2018 09:16 PM
Talon2006
Found it! Ignore the square cutouts. They were already there. I basically held it up where I wanted it, then walked over to the cnc plasma with the same file and had a part.

So coming up will be the track bar build. My other big debate at this point was bending the arms. I was pretty nervous to do it and I can list the names of people who said I wouldnít be able to do it Fo2. Though it was bend arms or do 5Ē lift springs.... which the shirt wife didnít want!


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09-29-2018 08:58 PM
Talon2006

So, for some reason I donít have nearly as many pictures putting the brackets together as I thought I did. After getting all the holes drilled it was pretty straight forward though.

I bolted the joints in using some cardboard on either side. Lined up the other pieces and tact it together. I tig welded most of the brackets during the semester. Mostly because I find tig welding fun. Though once I got on semester break and this project needed to get Finished I pulled the mig out. I ended up capping all my tig welds with the mig... just to be safe and to fill the outside corner joints.

To weld up the lower link mounts I mounted the bracket on the truck, and drove it around to my little apartment garage. Incase you donít know I did all this in the parking lot of my apartment complex lol.

I wanted to ensure the top of the lower mount was perfectly flush on the frame so I figured tacking it up while on the truck would be best for figment.


Since I wanted to keep the welding semi low key I put a blanket up to block he view from other residence. Out of sight out of mind right? Is so did this after the front office went home for the day. Lol thankfully I missed the security guard on his rounds too.


Overall I was pretty happy with how they turned out. This is one of the mounts holding up half of the truck so I think they will be strong enough.


So about two year ago I was at @guidolyons house and we took a 37Ē tire off his power stroked scout to put on my truck. I donít have any pictures of this but my main issue was clearance between the tire and the rear corner of the fender. Knowing this going into the build I knew I wanted to push the front axle forward. I originally did not plan on changing the stock track bar at this point... but I was starting to get nervous about pushing the front axle forward with it. Looking around I figured I would be ok an inch or so but didnít want to risk it. One impulse buy later I had all the stuff needed to put one together.




Some of you hinted that my stuff looks like the dodge off road stuff... well I have been drooling over one of his track bars for about 4 years now. Iím sure yíall can guess what the track bar design is gonna look like. I feel slightly guilty.... but there are not really a lot of other good mounting options imho.

I drew up a thought design in cad. I had a general idea what I wanted to use for mounting points. I used a few measurements from these points to get my cad design close. From there, I threw a piece of plywood in the laser cutter and got a test piece cut out to see how it would fit in the frame. Using 1/4Ē plywood works great for checking 1/4Ē steel fitment.


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09-29-2018 01:04 PM
waterhorse Sub'd
09-29-2018 10:51 AM
Aggie06
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New to Tapatalk lol.


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Prepare to be frustrated.


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09-28-2018 06:02 AM
Talon2006
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Originally Posted by Rttoys View Post
Why did you post the same picture 4 times?? is it because itís a 4 link or something? So 4 is 4


Didnít realize I did it. New to Tapatalk lol.


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09-27-2018 08:00 PM
Rttoys Why did you post the same picture 4 times?? is it because it’s a 4 link or something? So 4 is 4
09-27-2018 07:53 PM
Talon2006 So looks like my buddies updated yíall for me.

I have been pretty busy with school the last week but will update this soon. Iím still going to continue the build thread as I was building it. Both as a personal log and for if anyone in the future that might want to try the same thing.



Some parts as they came off the cnc plasma.


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09-26-2018 07:35 AM
paradisePWoffrd turned out good. looks similar to the dodge offroad arms. Have you noticed a difference in ride quality?
09-26-2018 06:53 AM
TrailTamer XJ Nice fab and well thought out on design! This is to improve off road ability?

I have 97 Ram 2500 and also wanted long arms but it’s not my off road rig, more of a tow rig/multiple purpose truck. I’ve learned that the stock, short arms up front really is OK for ride quality. It’s the rear that what ruin the ride quality. Either a bit of weight in the bed or proper (aka heavy) tongue weight make it ride nice.
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