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Today 08:41 AM
YotaAtieToo
Quote:
Originally Posted by chevy1925 View Post
2nd gen arms are also narrower and the pivot points are slightly wider. documented alot of this in my thread as i built the arms

use the 2nd gen knuckle if at all possible. the bump steer from factory already isnt all the great, no need to amplify it with those 1st gen knuckles. if the 1st gen spindle fits the 2nd gen knuckle, you are already well ahead since the bushing will fit. just becareful putting the bushing in, its thin and the material deforms real easy.
Thanks, I remember reading some of that, I was just curious to try it myself.

My idea was to cut the end off the 1st Gen a arm and move it forward but it would be more work than it's worth imo.
Today 08:13 AM
chevy1925 2nd gen arms are also narrower and the pivot points are slightly wider. documented alot of this in my thread as i built the arms

use the 2nd gen knuckle if at all possible. the bump steer from factory already isnt all the great, no need to amplify it with those 1st gen knuckles. if the 1st gen spindle fits the 2nd gen knuckle, you are already well ahead since the bushing will fit. just becareful putting the bushing in, its thin and the material deforms real easy.
Yesterday 10:49 PM
YotaAtieToo Pulled the 4 door back in and tore the front end apart. Turns out the 1st Gen spindles are interchangeable with the 2nd Gen. So the bushings will work as is.

I was also curious about the 1st Gen a arms since they are steel and have a bolt on ball joint instead of the stupid 1 piece cast a arm on the 2nd gen. Well the mounts lined up, but the ball joint is way further back on the 1st Gen a arm. I am really thinking about making my own a arms. It really doesn't look that complex to me. Might try to use a 7/8" hiem to replace the ball joint.

One thing that may interest some is putting 2nd Gen a arms on a 1st Gen to move the tire forward.

Another thing I noticed is that the knuckles look interchangeable, but have a few differences. The caliper ears are further out on the 2nd Gen, the 2nd Gen looks beefier in general, and the most interesting is the steering arm is way higher. Which interests me because my ends are bind before I get full droop. My plan was to just drill the knuckles for hiems and run them on top. As I type this, I'm realizing that may fuck with the toe through travel, but I'd probably never notice anyway



Got the pass side CV fitted, seems like it fits like it should.
07-14-2019 10:08 PM
YotaAtieToo Worked on this bastard all day today.





I used the piece of 4x4 tube that I cut off to patch the spot in the rear crossmember. Worked out well.



Pinion mount was pretty simple



The stock breather stuck up and was hitting the oil pan. I actually happen to have my burnt 60 right there with the perfect solution. You can also see how much I cut off the diff flange.



All finalized, it's tight as shit in there. I lifted the motor about an inch, and probably should have done it more.



Also did an SAS on the 2 door

I pulled all the ifs out of it and wanted it to remain a roller. I'm hoping to use the 1st Gen spindles so the Toyota cv conversion bushings I have will work.
07-14-2019 09:50 PM
YotaAtieToo
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2big bronco View Post
You still have the trackick tcase in it?
Yes, I need to track down an intermediate shaft. Plan is to just use Toyota shafts since I have a few, they're way stronger and easier to find than stock samurai shit.
07-14-2019 03:14 PM
2big bronco You still have the trackick tcase in it?
07-14-2019 12:06 PM
YotaAtieToo
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2big bronco View Post
Looks good, my future sidekick is coming along nicely.
Any plans of registering it?
It's possible!

Yes, I tried to smog it the last time I had a day off but the batt had died so obviously the monitors weren't ready. I didn't want to drive it around with the front driveline zip tied up, so I figured I just need to get this stupid diff in so I can drive it and have a reason to register it.

Just now got all the plates with the nuts welded on the back welded to the crossmembers. Just need to att the pinion mount and a little piece to replace the section of the rear crossmember I cut out.
07-14-2019 08:38 AM
2big bronco Looks good, my future sidekick is coming along nicely.
Any plans of registering it?
07-13-2019 09:36 PM
YotaAtieToo So this is what I came up with using my (not so) broad selection of steel. Started as 4x4x.188 the plan is to weld the piece to the diff tube and then make it bolt to the crossmembers.





It will wind up just shy of an inch lower than the stock one. It looks a lot lower, but it's probably partially because the diff is bigger. It only hangs about 1/4" lower than the stock crossmember, so I didn't really loose anything. I do feel like a skid plate might be a good idea with the cover being aluminum. I'll deal with that later.

I still need to make the mount for the pinion, but that will just be a piece of plate with 2 holes welded to the side of the rear a arm mount.
07-13-2019 03:25 PM
YotaAtieToo
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2big bronco View Post
He needs a new 4spd auto before he needs a locker

I'll go see what I can measure with minimal effort :flipoff2



On driverside directly under the front of the shock tower I got 3-3/4" down to centerline of cv output
Thanks homie
07-13-2019 02:32 PM
2big bronco
Quote:
Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Thanks homie, I thought about texting you but then I didn't

Does your bil still want that locker?

I was just looking for a height measurement, so bottom of frame rail to center of the flanges?


He needs a new 4spd auto before he needs a locker

I'll go see what I can measure with minimal effort :flipoff2



On driverside directly under the front of the shock tower I got 3-3/4" down to centerline of cv output
07-12-2019 10:05 PM
YotaAtieToo
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2big bronco View Post
I can get you any measurements you might need
Thanks homie, I thought about texting you but then I didn't

Does your bil still want that locker?

I was just looking for a height measurement, so bottom of frame rail to center of the flanges?
07-12-2019 08:52 PM
2big bronco I can get you any measurements you might need
07-12-2019 03:35 PM
YotaAtieToo So the current delema is that I didn't take any measurements before ripping the old diff out. so I'm not exactly sure how high it needs to sit. My plan is to drop it a bit in order to help the cv angle, but I don't want to go too crazy.

I guess I'll measure up the 1st Gen to at least get an idea.
07-11-2019 08:55 AM
YotaAtieToo
Quote:
Originally Posted by 904_runner View Post
So are we going to spend all this time modifying it to accept the Toyota ifs diff and then a month later you’re going to decide to just put your Dana 60 in the front? Maybe we should just do that from the get go? Might as well just start ordering parts for that now.

I’ll try to bring over some more beers and help you tomorrow.
I feel like diff clearance might be a problem with 32s and a 60
07-10-2019 11:21 PM
904_runner So are we going to spend all this time modifying it to accept the Toyota ifs diff and then a month later you’re going to decide to just put your Dana 60 in the front? Maybe we should just do that from the get go? Might as well just start ordering parts for that now.

I’ll try to bring over some more beers and help you tomorrow.
07-10-2019 10:48 PM
YotaAtieToo Finally was able to get myself to touch this thing with some help from @904_runner

Like I mentioned before, my plan was to unbolt the motor mount bracket, lift the motor up to desired height, and then weld brackets to the frame. For know I pulled the mount out and flipped the bracket over for mock up.



Stock diff mount off the cover if definitely in the way, so I just unbolted the cover off the mockup diff. We were able to get the diff pretty damn close to where it's needs to be by lifting the motor up about an inch and shifting it to the drivers side about an inch or maybe a little more.

After staring at it for a bit, I think I'm going to have to notch the crossmember to get the diff to sit flat. I'm OK with it being a little lower since it will help cv angle anyway.

07-02-2019 02:48 PM
BrynarHróarsson I have the chopped frame mod same as in this thread

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/suzu...ser-build.html

So I've got more room under the engine. Like you see in the pic I've got tubular a arms that move the spindle front and outward to gain room. I´m also running toyota landcruiser 90/prado axleshafts in the front with toyota pickup cv's. landcruiser shafts are 15mm or 5/8 Inch longer than stock pickup axles, and the spacers. I do this to allow from more downtravel in the front.
So total length of front axles with spacers is 45 mm longer than stock, I plan on replacing them with T100 shafts and cv's when I brake something.

could share pics/ info of spindle machine work if your interested.

I run 38x14.50R15 during winter 37x12.50R15 turing summer.

more pics








suspension with stock zuk axle, Ran it for about a year with stock suzuki front and rear never broke a thing with 37 inch tyers. now i have 4rrunner rear.
07-02-2019 01:04 PM
86chevyjoe
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrynarHróarsson View Post
I put a yota ifs diff in my 2 gen. I chopped og the diff cover mount and made a new one than connects between the front crossmembers.

more pics of rig please!!!!
07-02-2019 01:04 PM
86chevyjoe
Quote:
Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Nice, good to know it fits a 2nd Gen.

Did you move the engine at all?

Were the spacers necessary for factory arms? Or did you do a hegan mod of some kind?
did you see what tires hes running???

i want to see more pics of that rig!!!
07-01-2019 04:53 PM
YotaAtieToo Nice, good to know it fits a 2nd Gen.

Did you move the engine at all?

Were the spacers necessary for factory arms? Or did you do a hegan mod of some kind?
07-01-2019 04:14 PM
BrynarHróarsson I put a yota ifs diff in my 2 gen. I chopped og the diff cover mount and made a new one than connects between the front crossmembers.

06-27-2019 03:35 AM
2big bronco
Quote:
Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Wtf, what a lame thread

Really hoping to make some progress in time for 4th of July.
Go kick the OP in the nuts and have him get with it.
06-25-2019 08:59 AM
YotaAtieToo Wtf, what a lame thread

Really hoping to make some progress in time for 4th of July.
05-05-2019 02:21 PM
2big bronco How much do you want to put the motor/tranny Into my little samurai? I already have the 2wd transmision conversion kit to work with the samurai tcase
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