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03-28-2019 07:55 PM
waterhorse
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Originally Posted by Overbear View Post
Why call out the pest patrol?

Grab a bottle of CO2 from the gas supply shop. Rig up a hose, toss it down in there, turn on the valve...problem solved in about 3 minutes flat. Pull them out, skin them...good eating and tan the skins for sale to the leather shop.
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Originally Posted by White Shark View Post
CO2 would kill every single one of those snakes. Go in with a bucket and a grabber stick and clean them out. No big deal. I'd leave them alone in their own territory outside, but under the house is a no snake zone.
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Your second explanation is a bit more complete. Snakes have very slow matabulisims. I had a pet Python that didn't eat for 13 months. Had no effect on him. He was completely normal, but wouldn't eat. I know they can hold their breath for a long time. I'm sure not two days, but if there happened to be a hole under that house the some fresh air gets in. I bet it wouldn't take much to have some live ones. Tongs would make it safer, but it depends how the space is laid out. I dam sure wouldn't want to go in my crawl space with that many rattlers and I'm not perticularly scared of snakes.
03-28-2019 07:32 PM
White Shark
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Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Have you ever done this? It's sounds simple, but how do you know how much co2 it would take to fill the bottom of the house? How long does it take to asphyxiate a snake?

It would suck to crawl under there and discover a few still had enough life left in them to strike. I had a dead one squirm for hours after its head was gone, I've heard their muscle memory can allow them to strike after it dies, but I don't know if that's true.
We had a water tower in town that needed some attention and the guys went down the ladder subgrade and noticed the floor was moving. Same thing, a huge rattlesnake nest, and they were keeping cool on the 110F days in that cool and wet hole. They put a piece of plywood over the hole where the ladder went down and pumped CO2 in for a day or so. It killed all of the snakes.

With a house, you'd want to cover the foundation vents, calculate your rough cubic footage, and bring in a couple bottles of CO2 or Nitrogen. Flood the space for a couple hours. Place the gas hose as close to the nest as possible. Keep everyone out of the house until you can flush it out adequately with fans after your operation.

Go in geared up with a long handled snake stick with gripper and a machete. Drag the dead snakes out of the pile one at a time, whack the heads off, and put them into a pile. The heads will keep trying to bite but the bodies are dead. Use the stick with the grabber and put the heads into a bucket without coming into personal physical contact with them.

Build a nice low burning fire with Kingsford or other BBQ briquets in a 55 gallon drum and dump the bucket of heads on the hot coals. Let the heads cook for a few hours. It will destroy the venom and fangs. Usually you just bury the heads, but with a crap ton of snakes, I prefer burning. They won't bother anyone. Process the bodies for meat and skins. Gas won't damage either.



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03-24-2019 05:34 PM
YotaAtieToo
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Originally Posted by White Shark View Post
CO2 would kill every single one of those snakes. Go in with a bucket and a grabber stick and clean them out. No big deal. I'd leave them alone in their own territory outside, but under the house is a no snake zone.


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Have you ever done this? It's sounds simple, but how do you know how much co2 it would take to fill the bottom of the house? How long does it take to asphyxiate a snake?

It would suck to crawl under there and discover a few still had enough life left in them to strike. I had a dead one squirm for hours after its head was gone, I've heard their muscle memory can allow them to strike after it dies, but I don't know if that's true.
03-24-2019 05:33 PM
bdkw1
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Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Bunch of Billy badasses in here, it's not 1 snake in the driveway that you can get with a shovel. It's 45 under a house, how would you deal with it?
I'd make sure I had fire insurance. Then torch the place.
03-24-2019 05:02 PM
Grumpy356
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Originally Posted by Texas97 View Post
apparently the mojave is very aggressive. In the vid, the dude is under the house grabbing them with the tongs and the rest are just chilled out. The mojave will attack and persue.
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It was cool. (Low around 50, and under the house .....) In another month (or even today) the results would be very different.
03-24-2019 04:25 PM
White Shark
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Originally Posted by YotaAtieToo View Post
Bunch of Billy badasses in here, it's not 1 snake in the driveway that you can get with a shovel. It's 45 under a house, how would you deal with it?
CO2 would kill every single one of those snakes. Go in with a bucket and a grabber stick and clean them out. No big deal. I'd leave them alone in their own territory outside, but under the house is a no snake zone.


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03-22-2019 10:44 AM
Texas97
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Originally Posted by DR. SMASHER View Post
This may have been discussed but what is the difference between the two snakes?
apparently the mojave is very aggressive. In the vid, the dude is under the house grabbing them with the tongs and the rest are just chilled out. The mojave will attack and persue.

on top of that they have two different types of toxins. One causes necrosis (which is like a normal western diamond back) and it kills the tissue. They also have a nuerotoxin like a cobra, that acts differently than the necrosis toxin.


im not sure exactly how it works but i definitely do not want to find out first hand.
03-22-2019 10:29 AM
YotaAtieToo Bunch of Billy badasses in here, it's not 1 snake in the driveway that you can get with a shovel. It's 45 under a house, how would you deal with it?
03-22-2019 04:17 AM
ev13wt
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Originally Posted by White Shark View Post
Calling pest control seems ridiculous. People have been dealing with stuff like this for generations, but everyone these days seem afraid to kill spiders and are terrified of snakes.
Make them (citizens) terrified by removing education and experience. They will beg for rules and regulations.
Someone will save them, in this case it's animal control.
03-22-2019 12:05 AM
DR. SMASHER
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Originally Posted by Texas97 View Post
45 rattlesnakes? NO THANKS.

Burn the house down. Build new house with concrete foundation.

I know where this is and i know there is a bunch of snakes up there. its about 50-60 miles from where they have the annual Rattlesnake Roundup in Sweetwater.

and still, i think i would rather contend with 45 regular diamondbacks under my house than 1 of those bastard Mojave Rattlesnakes moving into that west Texas area.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-sho...ath-texas-home

This may have been discussed but what is the difference between the two snakes?
03-21-2019 05:46 PM
Roc Doc
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Originally Posted by White Shark View Post

They just about had a collective heart attack when he pinned it down, grabbed it behind the head, walked across the parking lot, and hucked it down into the bushes where it could continue living it's life as a happy snek. No big deal. They keep the ground squirrels and rats in check.

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That's where I'm at. Wife and I know to look where we step, so diamondbacks are no big deal. If we had outdoor pets or little kids it would be different, but for us they're just part of the Rock n Flock Ranch.

Wife called me on a drive back from Vegas to tell me a DB was in the hay barn, and I told her just leave it alone and I'd take care of it in the morning. Nope, she went to the neighbors house and borrowed their snake tongs, picked it up and put in a trash can. The next morning I put the can in the back of the truck, took it to the local dry creek and sent it over the edge. He wasn't to happy, but there's plenty for him to eat there, and we have at least two Kings that come around, and we didn't want the rabbits or chickens to get hurt.
03-21-2019 12:09 PM
White Shark
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Originally Posted by Overbear View Post
Why call out the pest patrol?

Grab a bottle of CO2 from the gas supply shop. Rig up a hose, toss it down in there, turn on the valve...problem solved in about 3 minutes flat. Pull them out, skin them...good eating and tan the skins for sale to the leather shop.
This is exactly the route I'd go. Set up the hose, leave it running for a few hours to do the job thoroughly, and ventilate the crawl space out good before pulling them out. No big deal.

It's a clean and painless kill for them, and the meat and skins are good for the grill and belt/boot makers. Just chop the heads off, throw them in a bucket while wearing welding gloves, and chuck them into the burn pile. There won't be any fangs or venom left after a day or two in the coals.

Calling pest control seems ridiculous. People have been dealing with stuff like this for generations, but everyone these days seem afraid to kill spiders and are terrified of snakes.

My brother works for a major UC University and some of the Ph.D lab researchers just about lost their minds when a rattlesnake was seen in the parking lot. They were running around like chickens with their heads cut off, and they all ran inside and locked the doors while calling UC Police. These super educated people were absolutely terrified.

They just about had a collective heart attack when he pinned it down, grabbed it behind the head, walked across the parking lot, and hucked it down into the bushes where it could continue living it's life as a happy snek. No big deal. They keep the ground squirrels and rats in check.

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03-21-2019 09:00 AM
Grumpy356 The only time I had rattlesnake the cook didn't de-bone it. I don't know if they are usually deboned, but I'll pass on dealing with snake bones.
03-21-2019 08:31 AM
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03-21-2019 08:07 AM
PROJECTJUNKIE I don't miss my ex wife, but I miss the half mexican get togethers where all the men are drunk on XX burning our fingers eating all the tri tip right off the mesquite fire when a rattler goes by and ends up skinned, gutted, and on the grill
03-21-2019 07:08 AM
TatonkaII
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Originally Posted by Texas97 View Post
There was a person near you posting about a Do Not Resecitate?


Well played, are you in the medical field?

Department of Natural Resources as I am sure you know.
03-21-2019 05:34 AM
BamaJeeper
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Originally Posted by 2big bronco View Post
They will follow the pellet gun with thier head if you hold the barrel 6inches ish fron thier head. Just slowly wave it back and forth and they take all of the aiming out of the equation.
Just like a cat, opossum, and other stupid animals.
03-21-2019 05:23 AM
2big bronco
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Originally Posted by Talon2006 View Post
I wonder how much the animal removal service was?

I would think a pellet gun would go a long way... or I do have a 330 cuft tank of Argon for my tig welder @guidolyons always gives me shit about.



Never had rattle snake but I would be willing to try it.

They will follow the pellet gun with thier head if you hold the barrel 6inches ish fron thier head. Just slowly wave it back and forth and they take all of the aiming out of the equation.
03-21-2019 04:37 AM
Talon2006 I wonder how much the animal removal service was?

I would think a pellet gun would go a long way... or I do have a 330 cuft tank of Argon for my tig welder @guidolyons always gives me shit about.



Never had rattle snake but I would be willing to try it.
03-20-2019 09:33 PM
smurfblue40
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Originally Posted by 2big bronco View Post
I've always skinned them and just tossed them in the pan with some butter and garlic.
We would do that when I was stationed at Fort Carson. Then wed add a little rattler meat to our Top Ramen in the field

We were the guys who grew up spending a lot of time outdoors, most of the city dwellers were too freaked out to even try it
03-20-2019 07:18 PM
2big bronco
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Originally Posted by 45acp View Post
All that would be in the deep freezer. Breaded/fried like deer steak it's just as good as deer steak.

Dove hunt landowner in West Texas looked at us like we was crazy with half the cooler full of snakes to take back home. "We aint got these back east"


I've always skinned them and just tossed them in the pan with some butter and garlic.
03-20-2019 07:15 PM
Roc Doc
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Originally Posted by rockmup View Post
I had a California King as a pet, I found her with a Diamondback half swallowed.
Good girl.
03-20-2019 07:14 PM
Texas97
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Originally Posted by TatonkaII View Post
Crazy, I was just reading about Indigos on FB because our local DNR posted about them. Bad ass snake!
There was a person near you posting about a Do Not Resecitate?
03-20-2019 05:45 PM
rockmup
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Originally Posted by Roc Doc View Post

I had a California King as a pet, I found her with a Diamondback half swallowed.
03-20-2019 05:45 PM
Motorcharge Bet they don't have a mouse problem.
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