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03-24-2019 09:07 AM
wheelin66bronco
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Originally Posted by Tipped View Post
Lopi wood stove FTW. Fuck a bunch of wood or pellet stove if you have access to natural gas, or even propane delivery service. Sourcing, cutting, chopping, storing and moving wood sucks major ass. Pellet stoves suck ass. Period. Need constant maintenance, every fucking one of them. Hate them. If you don't have a choice and must have one or the other then a Lopi wood stove and nothing else. You can circulate air around your house with a couple 12 dollar box fans, so don't fret air circulation.
Depends a lot on location and availability of wood. Previous owner of my house burned 1500gal of propane a year which to me was not worth the $$
I have access to plenty of standing dead wood, I have a shop to heat, and I want the certainty of heat if the power goes out and it's -20.
I like cutting wood, it teaches kids to work, lodgepole isn't very messy, I have a efficient cutting/storage setup.
For me burning wood is a no brainier, fuck $$$ propane.
03-24-2019 08:29 AM
Tipped
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Originally Posted by TrikeKid View Post
Agreed, my current place is the first one with gas heat I've ever lived in, after years of wood heat only. Having the house stay 1 temp with no effort on my part besides paying a very low monthly bill was a revelation for sure.
Hell yeah man. I was gonna get a Lopi wood stove as primary heat for our house, but my wife, who is a Philipina talked me out of it. Bless her heart. She grew up cooking all her meals by wood fire and just wasn't having it haha. Went went with a badass latest technology Mitsubishi heat pump system several years ago and it has been life changing. I live right next to main feeders and transfer station is 300 ft away so when I lose power it's for like an hour. I did have natural gas run to the house from the highway for free (I do have to pay a monthly service fee to have it), so this year I'm having an insert installed in the chimney. Gonna be
03-24-2019 08:08 AM
comeonstart Buying a nice wood stove is key, I grew up with and old buck stove insert that required lots of work.

My wife and I purchased a vermont castings free standing in our new house. Its a way better experience. It has no blower but does fine for our mostly open house. We did put the HVAC intake directly above it to compenstate for the lack of a fan, however I mostly use that to help cool the primary room if we let it get too hot. The downside for it to me is the weather we have right now of 30s-40s at night and 60s-70 during the day. Its hard to jusify starting it each night.
03-24-2019 07:59 AM
TrikeKid
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Originally Posted by Tipped View Post
Fuck a bunch of wood or pellet stove if you have access to natural gas, or even propane delivery service..
Agreed, my current place is the first one with gas heat I've ever lived in, after years of wood heat only. Having the house stay 1 temp with no effort on my part besides paying a very low monthly bill was a revelation for sure.
03-24-2019 12:06 AM
White Shark
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Originally Posted by KarlVP View Post
I've had both.

I had a Lopi wood insert and it absolutely kicked ass. We had the blower on the bottom and it would get our house (1350 square ft) crazy warm. The wife didn't like chopping wood and keeping it fed.

So we switched to a Lopi Yankee Bay insert pellet stove. Once you find a brand of pellets that are low ash you will love it. I usually run 3/4 ton through the stove before I clean it out. Even on stupid cold days we never run it more than 1/2 throttle.

I really liked the wood stove cause we could cook on it when the power went out, but as they say, wood heats you twice.
For sure and wood stoves operate without electrickery, they last longer than 11 years, and if you get the right model, you can cook on them as well. You can also burn trash and anything combustible in them without having to purchase pellets.

If the power goes out, chuck some potatoes, steak, onions, and vegetables into aluminum foal, throw it on the coals, and you're good to go. Wood stoves are great if you live in an area where to pollution goons aren't harassing you.


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03-23-2019 07:34 PM
Tipped Lopi wood stove FTW. Fuck a bunch of wood or pellet stove if you have access to natural gas, or even propane delivery service. Sourcing, cutting, chopping, storing and moving wood sucks major ass. Pellet stoves suck ass. Period. Need constant maintenance, every fucking one of them. Hate them. If you don't have a choice and must have one or the other then a Lopi wood stove and nothing else. You can circulate air around your house with a couple 12 dollar box fans, so don't fret air circulation.
03-23-2019 07:33 PM
KarlVP I've had both.

I had a Lopi wood insert and it absolutely kicked ass. We had the blower on the bottom and it would get our house (1350 square ft) crazy warm. The wife didn't like chopping wood and keeping it fed.

So we switched to a Lopi Yankee Bay insert pellet stove. Once you find a brand of pellets that are low ash you will love it. I usually run 3/4 ton through the stove before I clean it out. Even on stupid cold days we never run it more than 1/2 throttle.

I really liked the wood stove cause we could cook on it when the power went out, but as they say, wood heats you twice.
03-23-2019 07:03 PM
alk1174 I grew up with a wood stove in the basement. It was a homemade monster made from 1/4" plate. I would put out a ton of heat and did just fine heatingthe house. But the temperature swings were annoying it used a lot of wood and it was our primary heat source. After that I said I would never rely on wood heat again. 25 years later and I have my own place and it came with a hearthstone soapstone stove. After a season of using it I was amazed. The heat was even no crazy temp swings and it is effecient. I can fill it every 10 hours and it's good to go. It has been our primary heat source for the last 6 winters. I would highly recommend one.
03-23-2019 06:49 PM
bjordan My 3000sq ft ranbler had an Enduro pellet stove in it when we bought the house. It was the largest enduro unit (M55 sounds right) and would heat the house just fine. I used it for 2 years and went through 2 1/2 tons of premium pellets each year in MD. Kept the house at 68 pretty consistently but cost me $800 a year in pellets. This year I pulled it out, sold it for $2200 with about 28’ of liner, bought a 40year old large wood stove without the EPA shit they require now, lined the clay glue and have never been happier. The wood stove cost me $400+ $2000 in liner material and interior flue pipe. Since I did not by pellets this year I came out on top and will save money in the future. My heat pump sits about 10’ in front of my stove and where the pellet stove was so I was able to cut a large register into my return trunk line and run the HVAC fan 24/7 to move the heat. House now stays at 70 consistently with the wood stove shut all the way down unless it gets into the low teens outside.

Pellet stove was cleaner and easier but took electricity and cost money for pellets and service. Did not heat my house as well as the wood stove. From what I researched the Enduro M55 is top of the line pellets stove burning Lignetics premium pellets.

Wood stove is dirtier, a lot more work and more smoke in the house at times. But it heats much better, uses no electricity and cost nothing to maintain. Just sweep it every spring and good to go. I also have 3 sons and land to store wood so it’s a no brainer for me, wood stove all the way.
03-23-2019 05:27 PM
ToyFord
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Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Are pellets much cheaper than propane to heat with?
My brother in South Dakota recently switched from propane to pellets. He kept a full tank of propane as a back up heat source. The propane folks discontinued their keep full service. Then they started declining to come out when there was snow on the driveway (no issues doing it the previous 20 years). They nearly ran him out of propane in minus temps. They cared not. He put in the pellet stove, called them to fill the propane tank one last time. The owner happened to drive out that time. My brother explained why it would likely be the last damn time. He's be quite happy with the heat, efficiency, cost and "controlling" his own fuel source for the pellet stove. And now there's more than one propane supplier locally so he'll call them out in a decade when he needs his backup tank filled again. Oh, and he has a gen set to keep the pellet stove cranking during a power outage.

I had a pellet stove for our primary heat source aboout two decades ago, it was 5 years old then. I really did not like the fine dust it spit out 24/7. Cost was ok, heated ok, except when the power went out, which is frequent (before I realized I needed a gen set out here, have one now). We switched to a heat pump for primary and wood stove for back up. The wood stove sorks just fine in power outages. It has a blower on it, so if the gen set is on, I'll run the blowers, otherwise not. Just had a power outage the end of last month in a snow storm for 5 days. Haven't missed the pellet stove yet.
03-23-2019 04:55 PM
[email protected]
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Originally Posted by jblack View Post
Before you buy another Pellet stove,
check the efficiency rating,
buy a name brand instead of an off brand.

It's a lot cleaner and less work to burn pellets than firewood.
I've heated with pellets, firewood, and corn.
Pellets still take work. You are still handling almost as much mass as firewood, but you have to buy it and aren't in control of your heating fuel. Are pellets much cheaper than propane to heat with?
Wood all the way for me. My lopi freedom insert and my add on hot air wood furnace will both burn overnight without filling.
03-23-2019 04:50 PM
[email protected] Lopi wood.
03-23-2019 04:16 PM
TrikeKid My folks went from wood to a pellet stove about 20 years ago. They're on their second stove in that time now and they've come a long way. The old stove had the dust issue, belched a big cloud of smoke out the blower every time it lit etc... had to try 4-5 brands of pellets before they got one that would feed/burn reliably. New one is clean, no feed problems, better temp control etc... While yeah a wood stove doesn't need electricity, it also doesn't feed itself in the middle of the night or light with the push of a button.
03-23-2019 03:51 PM
BossBuilt Your pellet stove sucks balls. I have a Lopi. Love it. Install a good one right and you won't have that dust issue.
03-23-2019 03:10 PM
Lil'John I swapped out a propane insert for a wood insert at my old house. I went wood for guaranteed heat if the power was out. While you lose out on the blower motor, you still have a boat load of heat.

Specifically, I went with a Hearthstone soapstone insert. High end unit and was awesome.

I never had an issue with bugs from bringing wood into the house. Occasional dirt/bark but it was easy enough to clean.

I used about three to three and a half cords of wood a year. Storage for that 'little' wasn't too much of an issue.

I had an under the eave by the front door wood storage area that would hold enough for ~3 days... plus about a one day storage in the house. I rarely had an issue shuffling the wood from tarped storage to under the eave because of weather. I could usually time it between weather.

The only 'bad' issue I had was the stove was VERY large... rated for a 2000 square foot house. My house was 700 square foot If I didn't pay attention, I could heat the house bad enough to open the dutch doors in 20 degree weather

I can't wait to get the same stove in my current house. I get more power outages here. It is also 10 degrees cooler. I'm still trying to figure out the temp wood storage situation.
03-23-2019 02:40 PM
jblack Before you buy another Pellet stove,
check the efficiency rating,
buy a name brand instead of an off brand.

It's a lot cleaner and less work to burn pellets than firewood.
03-23-2019 01:08 PM
dickwart
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Originally Posted by jeeptj19992001 View Post
i think wood stoves are better, burn longer hotter, and does not need electricity. just clean chimmy once a year, and burn dry wood.
This! And the cat and dog do a good job of chasing the bugs around that hitch a ride on the firewood... Not a big deal as most of the winter here is sub freezing. Now and early fall the bugs are a little more present...
Also, I grew up with the early pellet stoves and they sucked! I've heard the new ones are better but you still need power for them to work.
03-23-2019 12:19 PM
Po' riggity We just moved into our house out in the sticks last November. Its 1900 sq feet, 2 level, and it has a Harmon pellet stove. We had never used a pellet stove for heat, and I have to say I am very impressed with how well the pellet stove heats the home. We have been running it basically 24/7 since we moved in, and have gone through about 2 tons of pellets since November. In my limited experience, a pellet stove is the way to go. Hauling in and storing bags of pellets is much easier than stacking, and storing wood, and if you get a newer pellet stove most of them will have automatic igniters which will make starting up the stove a breeze. We have also found that the brand of pellet you buy makes a difference. We have been happy with Bear Mountain as they seem to burn hot and slow, making it so that we use less pellets but have the same amount of heat.
Scott
03-23-2019 06:50 AM
dave_dj1 Do you have a place to store a few cords of wood? Do you mind hauling it in nightly? Dirt, bugs etc. etc.
You are already accustomed to using and storing pellets. I would say get a quality pellet stove (Harmon seems to be the big name here) and keep on keepin on.
Any experience with coal? Most coal stoves don't require electricity, burn for many hours consistently, can be very pretty stoves (Franco Belge) Clean ashes once a week, profit?
Of course you would have to store coal but it can be purchased in bags or bulk.
03-23-2019 06:50 AM
Norm I live in MT, we run our pellet stoves 7x24 from oct through march. Our main stove is a US stove I bought in 2007. I replaced the main fan twice, and the cosmetic back plate. I only replaced the fans because the bearings were starting to squeal, The whole fan assembly is $150 and takes 5 minutes or you can spend a few hours and just swap bearings. That's about 40 tons of pellets, so no complaints with the quality. I have a second stove downstairs I run when it's really cold, ~6-8 weeks I bought from Lowes (not sure of the brand).


The problem with stoves is trying to keep an even heat, then keeping it filled at 4:00 AM. Plus screw cutting 5-6 cords of wood every summer. Pellet stove I dump a bag once a day and done. Clean it out every couple weeks, it's nice.
03-23-2019 06:39 AM
jeeptj19992001 i think woid stoves are better, burn longer hotter, and does not need electricity. just clean chimmy once a year, and burn dry wood.
03-23-2019 06:37 AM
wheelin66bronco Yes, new pellet stoves are much better.
Yes, a good wood stove is good too, but I'm sure your chimney will have to change.

I did a lot of research when we were going to put a wood stove in our house. I ended up with a Blaze King Princess, absolutely love the stove.
03-23-2019 06:37 AM
Toms97ZJ A decent wood stove insert heats very well but you should have a blower to maximize heat.

I’d pick a wood stove over pellet any day. Pellet stoves have too many moving parts and require a lot of maintenance.

I just installed an Lopi Evergreen wood stove and it’s killer.

I’m slightly bias since we sell Travis products but we also sell Quadra fire.

https://www.lopistoves.com/TravisDocs/98800729.pdf

https://www.lopistoves.com/TravisDocs/98800730.pdf
03-23-2019 06:27 AM
will12785
Pellet stove vs. Wood stove

House is a split level approximately 2400 sqft. We have a classic bay Quadrafire 1200, but it really sucks. It will randomly go out durring the day or night. The auger will stop working intermittently. It also requires constant cleaning, and covers the first floor in a fine layer of dust. That said, when its running good it keeps the whole house 70+ degrees unless its bitter cold outside. So we are looking for replacement options.

Are newer pellet stoves better? Ours is about 11 years old I believe. If a new pellet stove would work better and require less maintenance I'd have an easier time justifying the insanely high costs.

A friend of mine has a newer wood stove and that thing rips! He puts wood in it 2x a day and it keeps his house as warm as mine. Theres also no worry of it randomly going out or now working. My only concern would be not having a hot air blower getting the heat pushed throughout the house.

We also have a fire place we don't use, and would consider putting in an insert, but I've got no clue how well the heat. It would be convenient though already having the chimney for it, but if they dont heat worth a damn I wouldn't bother.

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