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Yesterday 10:31 PM
rockyota83 google says 450/550 stub is 7.51 COU to end of splines

https://fortwayneclutch.com/product/...ies-sku-53694/

https://downtofab.com/products/2001874



https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/35300946-post1886.html
Yesterday 10:23 PM
Satan's_Minion .48" longer per Spicer specs. 7.51 vs 7.03

Joint centerline to end of shaft.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jemarshall View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satan's_Minion View Post
No.

The splined section into the bearing journal is the same because of the unit bearing, but they are longer from the bearing journal to the joint.

If you have a normal axle you need the 15+ 250/350 1550 shafts part numbers that are all over this thread.

How much longer are they?
Yesterday 09:59 PM
CDA 455 Serious axle pron!


Thanks for sharing.
Yesterday 08:49 PM
jemarshall Thank you @RANGERROD

First ones are the shims I got in it to get it to be able to rotate the shaft by hand at full crank. It still just barely touches.

And the others are the measurements of the outer stub. Definitely longer than 7", anyone know where there is info that backs that up? Wanting some proof for the upcoming convention.
Yesterday 08:46 PM
RANGERROD Moar
Yesterday 08:45 PM
RANGERROD @jemarshall here’s the pics.
Yesterday 08:19 PM
rockyota83
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satan's_Minion View Post
No.

The splined section into the bearing journal is the same because of the unit bearing, but they are longer from the bearing journal to the joint.

If you have a normal axle you need the 15+ 250/350 1550 shafts part numbers that are all over this thread.
so maybe jermashals stub shaft doesnt fit because CTM made it for a f450/550 knuckle/UB?
Yesterday 07:02 PM
jemarshall It would need every bit of a .25 spacer.

Still won't let me upload pics. I'll try hosting instead.
Yesterday 06:54 PM
jemarshall
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satan's_Minion View Post
No.

The splined section into the bearing journal is the same because of the unit bearing, but they are longer from the bearing journal to the joint.

If you have a normal axle you need the 15+ 250/350 1550 shafts part numbers that are all over this thread.

How much longer are they?
Yesterday 06:45 PM
Satan's_Minion
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockyota83 View Post
are the 450/550 1550 stub shafts the same length as the 250/350 stub shafts?
No.

The splined section into the bearing journal is the same because of the unit bearing, but they are longer from the bearing journal to the joint.

If you have a normal axle you need the 15+ 250/350 1550 shafts part numbers that are all over this thread.
Yesterday 06:02 PM
wellstig1
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Originally Posted by jemarshall View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satan's_Minion View Post
The Super 60 stub shaft is longer than the normal 05+. The unit bearing geometry is the same on both though, the difference is in the knuckle.

05+ standard 60 stubs should be 7" long from center line of joint to end of shaft.

Looks like you have some expensive paperweights...
Will the super 60 knuckle mount to the normal 05+ C?
No, the balljoint spread is wider and the ball joints are also bigger.
Yesterday 03:26 PM
rockyota83 are the 450/550 1550 stub shafts the same length as the 250/350 stub shafts?
Yesterday 02:44 PM
jemarshall
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satan's_Minion View Post
The Super 60 stub shaft is longer than the normal 05+. The unit bearing geometry is the same on both though, the difference is in the knuckle.

05+ standard 60 stubs should be 7" long from center line of joint to end of shaft.

Looks like you have some expensive paperweights...
Will the super 60 knuckle mount to the normal 05+ C?
Yesterday 02:42 PM
jemarshall
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Originally Posted by RWassink View Post
I had some laser cut out of 16 ga SS for the 99-04 unit bearing. I have yet to actually use them though. The only issue I see it causing is the relationship between the caliper and rotor, but I have the currie 5 lug brake kit which utilizes spacers and all I have to do to maintain that relationship is space the caliper out the same distance as you shim between the unit bearing and knuckle

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
I built my own caliper mounts. I've already looked into rebuilding them to keep them lined up on the rotor


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffh555 View Post
What axles do you have? Have you asked the axle manufacturer?
CTM, I haven't been able to get him on the phone yet



Quote:
Originally Posted by Satan's_Minion View Post
The Super 60 stub shaft is longer than the normal 05+. The unit bearing geometry is the same on both though, the difference is in the knuckle.

05+ standard 60 stubs should be 7" long from center line of joint to end of shaft.

Looks like you have some expensive paperweights...

Thanks for the measurement. Not your normal stub shaft since it splines directly into the unit bearing. And they will not be my paperweights....



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Originally Posted by CDA 455 View Post
Impressive.
Than you
Yesterday 09:49 AM
CDA 455 Impressive.
Yesterday 09:48 AM
Satan's_Minion The Super 60 stub shaft is longer than the normal 05+. The unit bearing geometry is the same on both though, the difference is in the knuckle.

05+ standard 60 stubs should be 7" long from center line of joint to end of shaft.

Looks like you have some expensive paperweights...


Quote:
Originally Posted by jemarshall View Post
Is there a difference in unit bearings where there is a difference in the back side?

The axles I got seat into the back of the UB, but the KPI is not through the middle of the ujoint. Its pushing the axle into the inside wall of the tube when turning. I am wondering if there is one that would give more room to center up the ujoint.
Yesterday 08:59 AM
Jeffh555
Quote:
Originally Posted by jemarshall View Post
Is there a difference in unit bearings where there is a difference in the back side?

The axles I got seat into the back of the UB, but the KPI is not through the middle of the ujoint. Its pushing the axle into the inside wall of the tube when turning. I am wondering if there is one that would give more room to center up the ujoint.
What axles do you have? Have you asked the axle manufacturer?
Yesterday 08:32 AM
RWassink
Quote:
Originally Posted by jemarshall View Post
Is there a difference in unit bearings where there is a difference in the back side?



The axles I got seat into the back of the UB, but the KPI is not through the middle of the ujoint. Its pushing the axle into the inside wall of the tube when turning. I am wondering if there is one that would give more room to center up the ujoint.



Has anyone ever added a spacer between the UB and knuckle? Would it be advisable?





It is not letting me attach photos, I keep getting the stupid security token error.
I had some laser cut out of 16 ga SS for the 99-04 unit bearing. I have yet to actually use them though. The only issue I see it causing is the relationship between the caliper and rotor, but I have the currie 5 lug brake kit which utilizes spacers and all I have to do to maintain that relationship is space the caliper out the same distance as you shim between the unit bearing and knuckle

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Yesterday 08:26 AM
RANGERROD Here’s jemarshall’s pictures.
Yesterday 08:00 AM
RANGERROD
Quote:
Originally Posted by jemarshall View Post
Is there a difference in unit bearings where there is a difference in the back side?

The axles I got seat into the back of the UB, but the KPI is not through the middle of the ujoint. Its pushing the axle into the inside wall of the tube when turning. I am wondering if there is one that would give more room to center up the ujoint.

Has anyone ever added a spacer between the UB and knuckle? Would it be advisable?


It is not letting me attach photos, I keep getting the stupid security token error.
Text me the photos and I can post them up.
Yesterday 05:35 AM
jemarshall Is there a difference in unit bearings where there is a difference in the back side?

The axles I got seat into the back of the UB, but the KPI is not through the middle of the ujoint. Its pushing the axle into the inside wall of the tube when turning. I am wondering if there is one that would give more room to center up the ujoint.

Has anyone ever added a spacer between the UB and knuckle? Would it be advisable?


It is not letting me attach photos, I keep getting the stupid security token error.
11-17-2019 07:32 PM
FORDTECHGURU Yes, works the same. The factory lockouts seem to hold up fairly well for trail rigs.
11-15-2019 10:39 AM
Gozuki
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Originally Posted by FORDTECHGURU View Post
Well, if a guy wanted to run vacuum hub locks just go snag the dual vacuum solenoid out of a f250. Run source vacuum to it and plumb the other side to the hubs. There is a three wire connector on it, one ground and the other pins are unlock and lock. A simple push button or on off on momentary rocker switch will do the trick. The factory module holds the solenoid on for around 8 seconds and then releases it. So, hold the button or rocker switch down for 8 seconds and your set..
Btw, our 05-up hi steer kits are the only kit in the indusrtry built to allow the vacuum hub locks to be retained if wanted, we machine an oring groove in the arm that seals to the knuckle port, drill and tap a hole and hook your vacuum hose back up and party on..
Does all this apply to the 05+ too? And are the vacuum hubs worth a crap? Be an easy selectable with a front spool.
11-14-2019 06:47 PM
Greg S
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Originally Posted by the_white_shadow View Post
if anyone has the cad file handy for the 05+ SD unit bearings or for the steering knuckle, can someone measure the bolt pattern for the unit bearing mounting to the knuckle? Im going to cut out a few plates on the table to mount a spare UB on a spare tire holder. The 4-bolt flange.

tia
I just measured an 06 F250 spindle, unit bearing is 4 on 6.5"(center to center diameter), bolt hole size is .595", and the bore size is 5.525".
11-13-2019 12:04 PM
the_white_shadow
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Originally Posted by CartsXJ View Post
Off a 10 lug....but they are the same, sorry the text is small.....but the pattern is a square 4.593" or 116.6mm and 1.81" or 46mm from mounting surface to wheel mount.
Perfect. Thank you so much.
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