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02-15-2020 07:42 AM
plym49
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Originally Posted by ArTi54N View Post
.. I'm gonna try and reach them MONDAY.. see if they have a record of my employment still, so I can use them on a resume again..
Not necessary. If any future employer requires proof, a copy of your W2 and/or tax return will suffice.
02-15-2020 07:21 AM
RgdL
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Originally Posted by ArTi54N View Post
I used to work for one of the largest printing companies, in the USA.. I think we were around #8.. based in Austin.. I made great money, and had a nice apartment to myself.. (and plenty of card playing, etc.. I did not have a 4x4 yet, but I had friends who did)..

Im talkin back in the 90s, right before I got my house..

oh and I had a very nice mustang

anyways the company does not exist anymore.. I agree.. Print Died a long time ago..

lets google "Hart Graphics"

WOW.. thought the company had completely died.. I'm gonna try and reach them MONDAY.. see if they have a record of my employment still, so I can use them on a resume again.. I gave them a 90 day warning, that I was going back to college, to get a degree, cuz they had said I needed one to get any higher in the company. While I left they went through some bad bankruptcy.. they had a bunch of buildings in Austin which are now replaced.

Are you sure they did just tell you they were closing the doors so you'd leave?
02-15-2020 01:08 AM
ArTi54N I used to work for one of the largest printing companies, in the USA.. I think we were around #8.. based in Austin.. I made great money, and had a nice apartment to myself.. (and plenty of card playing, etc.. I did not have a 4x4 yet, but I had friends who did)..

Im talkin back in the 90s, right before I got my house..

oh and I had a very nice mustang

anyways the company does not exist anymore.. I agree.. Print Died a long time ago..

lets google "Hart Graphics"

WOW.. thought the company had completely died.. I'm gonna try and reach them MONDAY.. see if they have a record of my employment still, so I can use them on a resume again.. I gave them a 90 day warning, that I was going back to college, to get a degree, cuz they had said I needed one to get any higher in the company. While I left they went through some bad bankruptcy.. they had a bunch of buildings in Austin which are now replaced.
02-14-2020 11:11 PM
iampuping I’ll miss low rider the most.
02-14-2020 11:08 PM
iampuping Crawl has sucked since Tim and Brandon left. You may think he was a douche but that guy knew what he was doing. Since he left he’s sold two tech startups for millions.
12-11-2019 08:33 AM
welndmn
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Originally Posted by JR View Post
I need to do a better job at proof reading.
It seems he still Freds on the weeks with them and maybe Freds a few weekdays, he Fred'ed on UA with them too.
12-11-2019 01:16 AM
BRD So does this mean that old copies will become collector items?


Playboy didn't fund my retirement,maybe 4Wheel &Off Road will
12-10-2019 06:10 PM
Roc Doc I got a subscription to Motor Trend and it's comical to see their articles on "off-roading", usually it's on a dirt road that a Camry would have no problem with. Or when they took a Range Rover with 21" tires and got a flat...imaging that, (and no spare of course). Or when they barely survived the Mojave Road, which they described as not much more than a footpath. Fucking Millennials,(mostly).
12-10-2019 06:02 PM
Roc Doc
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Originally Posted by CrustyJeep View Post
This. And fax machines. DIE!
!
When the main computer system my company uses got hacked, we were still able to ship orders via fax...and smoke signals.
12-10-2019 04:53 PM
Jctnt1 bummed as well. I’ll miss JP Mag the most. been wheeling jeeps since 1980 and have spent mucho bucks over these last 40 years subscribing to many offroad and hot rod related mags. I do like my crapper reading and sitting by the fire during off season reading. still got Crawl and Trails for now. I spend a lot of time on my Ipad checking pages as well as “learning” to use Instagram (still no clue) So I like both old school print as well as social medium.
12-09-2019 08:44 AM
Kunker The frustration for me was, as a subscriber, I would get content on the website weeks/months before the print article. That killed my subscription. Give me access before the rest of the world, I would have kept it. And that's just from their website. As others have said, FB/IG/whatever will have event news and pics out long before that still.
12-09-2019 07:28 AM
KacksterK5 I still have some beaten and tattered copies of 4Wheel and off Road that my buddies and I traded back in forth in middle school. Clampy, Shannon's Pink Jeep, The Quagmire Big Block Squarebody Chevy in Top Truck Challenge. Sam Patton's CJ7 on 40's, Jesse Haines' giant Toyota, The Scorpion Rigs. It was always awesome to get that rag and talk and dream about fixing our junk up one day.

Sucks that kids won't have that now. But they don't care anyway.
12-09-2019 07:24 AM
Gittinwidit In my opinion, the only thing for the general public that needs to be printed on paper is official maps. And updated regularly. Maybe a few other things like sales papers and coupons that I can think of but as for entertainment or one day old news... Why should they???
12-09-2019 07:11 AM
GMGuy
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Originally Posted by Beat95YJ View Post
Thoughts?
Magazines turned for the worse in the late 80's. While advertising has always been a part of magazines (just read early hot rods) it seemed to me that the advertising started to take over the articles more and more, become more of a blatent shill for a product vs a more subtle more detailed shill for a product. And ads certainly didn't let up, if anything they seemed to proliferate the magazines. It basically drove me away from them. The randomn magazine I looked at, lots of frill but no substance so as far as I'm concerned, they've been on a downward slide since the late 80's, when, in my opinion they peaked and jumped the shark.

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Originally Posted by Provience View Post
business' have had a rather interesting relationship with Facebook and likely to a lesser extend with IG, but it seems like FB early on started a bunch of the change.
Facebook set the grounds back when they where only allowing college kids to register. You have a big audience of impressionable kids with idialistic views of the world. Add the zukerburg being of similar nature, things he tries since he doesn't have a good-old-boys style board to satisfy plays on the thinking patterns of college kids and sets the stage for the way things progress. Those college kids are now long out of college, and the facebook thing has shaped their thinking. And here we are, facebook is pervasive, and if you want to know about something going on facebook probably has it. Unfortunately. Fuck facebook.

Alex.
12-07-2019 06:37 PM
bobbywalter its all my fault.



i didnt even know truck night was kaput.
12-07-2019 06:15 PM
JR
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Originally Posted by JR View Post
Does Fred still Fred a job at 4WOR?
I need to do a better job at proof reading.
12-07-2019 04:28 PM
waterhorse
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Originally Posted by Shadow man View Post
or a completely different format? I know we are still using 8 tracks, VHS, cassette, reel to reel, CD, betamax still to this day in every home.
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Originally Posted by animator View Post
I'm only a few years older, and this is me, almost. I do use social media, but I still burn CDs to play in my truck.
CDs? Don't like those new fangled things. I still have the factory cassette deck in my DD 90' Bronco. (A box of good cassettes)

I do like forums better than print. FB, not so much. In fact, the few times I've been on it, I can't see why anyone likes it.
12-07-2019 04:00 PM
vetteboy79
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Originally Posted by animator View Post
That is the worst. I'll find an article I want to read on the FB, close my phone and go take a dump hoping to read it on the shitter, open up the app, and it's gone, and I have to spend 20 minutes searching manually, which sucks and usually finds everything *but* what I'm searching for, or I have to scroll down forever until I stumble across it.
For what it's worth - FB has an option to 'save' a post; click on the little option dots on the upper right of whatever you're looking at, and then it puts it into your 'saved' folder and you can bring it up later. I use the shit out of that feature, for the same reason
12-07-2019 03:09 PM
RANGERROD Funny I make it a point to subscribe to print publications. And four wheeler just plain sucks. I bet the reason they keep it are 4x4 of the year completion. I’m sure they get paid a pretty penny from manufacturers for that.
12-07-2019 02:17 PM
SanDiegoCJ
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Originally Posted by giles45shop View Post
So what's going to happen to current subscribers? I enjoy reading mags, and just signed up to 24 month subscriptions to Hot Rod, 4 Wheel &Offroad, and Car Craft. At <$1/issue it was cheap entertainment; and now two of them are going out of print.
Supposedly they'll be offered "on-line".
12-07-2019 02:05 PM
giles45shop So what's going to happen to current subscribers? I enjoy reading mags, and just signed up to 24 month subscriptions to Hot Rod, 4 Wheel &Offroad, and Car Craft. At <$1/issue it was cheap entertainment; and now two of them are going out of print.
12-07-2019 01:52 PM
SanDiegoCJ
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Originally Posted by Shadow man View Post
So what are the magazines that are dying off. I want to go buy the last issues.
These are the ones going "out of print".

4-Wheel & Off-Road
Automobile
Car Craft
Chevy High Performance
Classic Trucks 
Diesel Power
Hot Rod Deluxe 
Jp
Lowrider
Mopar Muscle
Muscle Car Review
Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords
Mustang Monthly
Street Rodder
Super Chevy 
Super Street
Truck Trend 
Truckin’
Vette
12-07-2019 12:21 PM
Shadow man So what are the magazines that are dying off. I want to go buy the last issues.
12-07-2019 11:53 AM
ToddRH When I was growing up in SoCal during the 1970's, 1980's, and through the 90's.

You had magazines, the library, Dick Cepek catalog or some other companies, maybe a Jeep bible, the truck/auto trader, and the JC whitney catalog.
Maybe there was a shop in town you could see cool stuff being worked on.
Or maybe see some cool stuff playing in the desert/or racing.

This was your pipeline of information, unless you also had neighbors that had cool stuff, or your family had cool stuff.
Magazines and racing helped drive the progression of the technology during that time.

Then the internet shows up 1998-1999.
Along comes discussion boards and then forums.
The shared information and online social interaction begins to expand the sport/hobby
Magazines are still relevant for the first 10-15 years, but the writing is on the wall.
The auto trader publications going away is a perfect example....it's all online now.
So , after 20 years of living with the internet, we see the inevitable withdraw of many hobbyist magazines.
I would imagine this is happening to almost every magazine publisher no matter what the hobby is.
And newspapers will be next. I imagine most printed media will be gone in 20 years.

It's really just a slow, but inevitable progression of things in print that will be turned to a subscriber system for viewing and downloading.

Sad to see an era come to an end with some of the older magazines.



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12-07-2019 09:43 AM
craig195 Print certainly isn't dead for my dad. He prints everything. Sundays are football and tech support

I haven't had a mag subscription since computer world stopped the print mag. I still subscribe to the newspaper and will till it dies a sad slow death.
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