|01-16-2020 06:28 AM|
|3Cs||Everything seems to point to Block/Bell housing alignment. If you are 100% sure the dowells are in the new block, could it be possible the holes in the bell housing are off or wallowed out?|
|01-16-2020 06:26 AM|
|49anditsmine||Guess that is what we let ourselves in for when we start swapping motors. Just hope everything goes well or deal with the issues.|
|01-16-2020 06:17 AM|
I am dealing with something just like this right now.
Might not be the OP's issue but it was something I had never seen before and has really screwed me good.
I swapped the engine on a FWD car.
The engine I removed was for a manual trans, the replacement was an auto.
I swapped over the flywheel but left the spacer as it looked the same to me.
Well after I get it back together I notice that the holes in the spacer place for the starter are just slightly off, So I drilled them out and put everything back in the car.
Well screw me if the started doesnt grind. It will start the car but grinds everytime.
The damn holes int he place are the alignment points for the starter.
So now I have to remove the trans and swap the plate out.
|01-16-2020 06:05 AM|
|49anditsmine||If that doesn’t work, the LS swap will be the next move. Lol|
|01-16-2020 05:59 AM|
|49anditsmine||I appreciate all the input. The plate between the block and the bell housing is there, the dowels are in place, I have replaced the flywheel and compared it to two others and no difference, used three different starters and tried shimming it with washers. Nothing worked. I think the adjustable starter from summit may be the next step or swapping out the bell housing for another on I have. It is just puzzling that it won’t work right with factory parts. Has to be some sort of variance somewhere causing the mis match.|
|01-15-2020 07:37 PM|
I think we have a winner!!
Or just LS swap it.
|01-15-2020 06:34 PM|
In the nick of time.
|01-15-2020 06:06 PM|
|NOODLES||Does it have a different flywheel? Maybe the ring gear is not on it right.|
|01-15-2020 05:49 PM|
Summit racing sells a nice adjustable starter for the Jeeps at a reasonable price. This issue is very common.
Op, verify that dowels are in and that you have the correct flywheel(both are very easy).
If they’re correct, order the adjustable one and be done with it.
|01-15-2020 02:32 PM|
|JunkCJ6||did you put the large metal shim plate back on that goes between the engine and the bellhousing? are the alignment dowels in the back of the engine?|
|01-15-2020 02:31 PM|
|01-15-2020 02:16 PM|
Stick or auto? I have seen people install the flex plate back asswards in the auto version.
LS swap it anyway
|01-15-2020 01:16 PM|
|ExWrench||LS swap it|
|01-15-2020 01:15 PM|
|ExWrench||In before "LS swap it"|
|01-15-2020 09:52 AM|
check the ring gear on the flywheel, it's the only part left that could have changed. I'm guessing either the ring gear is toast or it's not in the right location on the flywheel
Definitely check the ring gear offset, apparently there were differences over the years
|01-15-2020 09:35 AM|
258 block is 258 block.
even after they changed the casting to make it lighter the external dimensions never changed.
if you pulled out a 258 and put in a 258, everything you had before should work.
|01-15-2020 08:33 AM|
Wife asked if I was planning to do my own colonoscopy
|01-15-2020 08:17 AM|
|49anditsmine||Thanks for the response. Going to keep tinkering with it until I either fix it or replace something.|
|01-15-2020 08:14 AM|
|01-15-2020 08:06 AM|
|49anditsmine||I like the idea of the endoscope. That way I can at least see what is happening.|
|01-15-2020 08:04 AM|
|49anditsmine||I tried shims and it did not help. I am thinking that the bell housing just doesn’t work well with this new engine.|
|01-15-2020 08:03 AM|
|Byro||Sounds like the starter wasn’t shimmed 5 times.|
|01-15-2020 08:02 AM|
|49anditsmine||Had a local motor shop Barr a build the motor. Stick 258. Put a new flywheel on it and put the engine in the Jeep. Had the grinding issue. Swapped out the flywheel and still have the issue. Swapped the starter three times and still have the issue.|
|01-15-2020 08:01 AM|
Remove the cover at the bottom of the bellhousing.
Crawl underneath and place endo-cam near the starter gear.
Have someone crank motor while you record video.
Watch video on phone or computer.
After watching video, you can decide what needs to be done.
Much better than asking the internet.
|01-15-2020 07:59 AM|
|87manche||or maybe just shim the starter so it meshes properly?|
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