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02-12-2020 04:06 AM
rugburn
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Originally Posted by OscarJr View Post
Thanks, not sure if you mean in a good way or now, 'cause some people like to blast others it's hard to tell, lol.
It's all good !
02-11-2020 08:24 PM
tracyb i get it for a farmers and such, i missed the 'side' part next to jobs. i would be removed from a job if i brought something like that to a call out.

most gensets and such have gfci so should be fine. i'd be careful using it from any other source not gfci protected. most think its over rated until they get 'touched'.

but if only running from a genset why have breakers at all? most gens all ready have the needed breakers. and then why use breakers designed to be used in a panel.

see your runnng an HTP welder how do you like them, compare to the big names?
02-11-2020 01:05 PM
OscarJr
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Originally Posted by rugburn View Post
SOFA
KING
AWESOME

Thanks, not sure if you mean in a good way or now, 'cause some people like to blast others it's hard to tell, lol.
02-11-2020 04:31 AM
rugburn SOFA
KING
AWESOME

02-10-2020 09:04 AM
OscarJr Got a chance to use it yesterday, as the neighbor's gate was falling apart, and the random dude they got to make a new gate vanished. Just tacked it in place for now (to the gate frame behind it) so their dogs don't knock the rusted heap down and go into the park behind our houses.

02-07-2020 08:16 PM
OscarJr
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Originally Posted by ChiScouter View Post
I think that is great backyard engineering but I am very happy that I have found 2 spider boxes on craigslist, one was 25 bucks the other 35. Neither seller had any idea what they were.
Thanks, back-yard engineering is exactly what it is/what I was going for. Around here, Craigslist turns out nothing, I'm not about to wait 10-15 years for a spider box to show up, lol. Hence the one I made.
02-07-2020 05:54 PM
ChiScouter I think that is great backyard engineering but I am very happy that I have found 2 spider boxes on craigslist, one was 25 bucks the other 35. Neither seller had any idea what they were.
02-07-2020 12:04 PM
OscarJr
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Originally Posted by billybob_81067 View Post
Looks good to me.

Run it.
Thanks.

I added a little "multimeter" to the 240V side of things.

02-07-2020 11:53 AM
billybob_81067 Looks good to me.

Run it.
02-07-2020 08:11 AM
OscarJr
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Originally Posted by tracyb View Post
i dont get it, $10-20k into HTP welders? and this is your red neck solution for a spider box?

embarrassing.

shit aint 'custom' its hack, you can do allot better. i would call it a prototype and redesign.
Interesting response indeed. I'm not embarrassed not even one bit, it's just something I threw together in my spare time, so idgaf. You can call it what you want, it don't hurt my feelings. And you are right about one thing: you sure don't get it.
02-05-2020 08:58 PM
tracyb i dont get it, $10-20k into HTP welders? and this is your red neck solution for a spider box?

embarrassing.

shit aint 'custom' its hack, you can do allot better. i would call it a prototype and redesign.
01-31-2020 07:02 AM
OscarJr Nah, its not just wire, it is indeed a "chunk" of copper, as in I took 1/8" thick copper flat bar and milled a little profile so it snaps into the slot, and then used a copper crimp sleeve at the other end to crimp and also silver solder the wire, then heat-shrinked it. Its pretty cramped in there, so no place for the wires to go anywhere.
01-30-2020 05:12 PM
aczlan
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Originally Posted by Muckin_Slusher View Post
So they're clip on?

Did you just jam a chunk of flat copper into each slot?
As I read between the lines, he stripped pieces of insulation off of a piece of copper wire (possibly #6 or #8) and stuck that into the slots.

Aaron Z
01-30-2020 04:56 PM
Muckin_Slusher
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Originally Posted by OscarJr View Post
They are standard Eaton breakers.

No pic as they are already fixed in place, and the internet electrical police would go on and on about how they are not "up to code" for generator use
So they're clip on?

Did you just jam a chunk of flat copper into each slot?
01-30-2020 04:36 PM
OscarJr
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Originally Posted by Muckin_Slusher View Post
Are those bolt on style breakers?

If not, could you show a pic of how you connected them.
They are standard Eaton breakers.

No pic as they are already fixed in place, and the internet electrical police would go on and on about how they are not "up to code" for generator use
01-30-2020 04:20 PM
Muckin_Slusher Are those bolt on style breakers?

If not, could you show a pic of how you connected them.
01-30-2020 01:30 PM
OscarJr
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Originally Posted by Kunker View Post
Funny, flowmeters showed up when I posted, don't any more.

Thanks for the education and explanation.
Thanks for letting me know about the links. I never really had any issues with pics but I'm checking different avenues since I keep all my stuff on Google ever since the whole photobucket fiasco.
01-30-2020 12:32 PM
Kunker
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Originally Posted by OscarJr View Post
Thanks, let me check that last link. So you can see the pic of the four flowmeters?

The whole thing is grounded because of the metal faceplates, so should a hot wire somehow come loose (which I don't ever expect it to) and touch the case, any part of the faceplate, or the floating buss bar network inside, it will immediately trip the breaker at the generator (which is a 30A breaker for the two hots). The hots for the 120V outlets would of course trip the 20A breakers and not the 30A generator breaker. The reason I put 50A breakers in it right now for the 6-50R outlets (as opposed to 30A like the generator) is mainly to serve as on/off switches at the moment. Later when I get a larger generator that is capable of more than 50A then those breakers will be true protection devices that would trip before the generator.
Funny, flowmeters showed up when I posted, don't any more.

Thanks for the education and explanation.
01-29-2020 09:19 PM
OscarJr Not in my neck of the woods they aren't, as in there ain't crap on CL. To be honest, I didn't even know they made these things, lol. I paid a lot less for the materials in making mine that's for sure. The only thing I "really" paid for was the 240ft of oversized 4 awg wire which was 'bout $160 or so; the 8 awg ground was pennies; 12awg 12/2 "romex" I already had; the sq tube was free scrap; #8 rebar about $16 or so.; isolated bus bars about $20 for all three on clearance at Lowes; expandable sleeve $12 Ebay. So all in all I have less than $200, so I have no regrets except for not knowing about those DIN rail-mount breakers; I would have definitely opt'ed for those instead.
01-29-2020 08:26 PM
Benny So, you built a redneck spider box. You know they are cheap on CL, right?
01-29-2020 07:53 PM
rockyota83
01-29-2020 06:31 PM
OscarJr
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Originally Posted by aczlan View Post
They are probbaly special order only: https://www.homedepot.com/b/Electric...vZbm16Z1z0ng5m

Aaron Z
Yeap, special order, and those eaton 50A breakers were half the price as well. I had already stashed a ton of wire that I buy as "leftovers" from my local Lowes. They give away wire remnants at 75% off. One time I picked up about 200ft of white 8awg thhn someone had returned to the store. Got it all for around $12 I think. 6awg not as much, but I'll snag it every time I see it.
01-29-2020 06:15 PM
aczlan
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Originally Posted by OscarJr View Post
They don't have those at my Home Depot, and I had a gift card that I wanted to use up, lol. Otherwise those would have worked great, and to be honest, I hadn't even considered those. Great idea.
They are probbaly special order only: https://www.homedepot.com/b/Electric...vZbm16Z1z0ng5m

Aaron Z
01-29-2020 06:08 PM
OscarJr They don't have those at my Home Depot, and I had a gift card that I wanted to use up, lol. Otherwise those would have worked great, and to be honest, I hadn't even considered those. Great idea.
01-29-2020 05:44 PM
aczlan
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Originally Posted by OscarJr View Post
It's a "proprietary" kind of thing that the internet electricity police would cite for "not being up to code". I basically custom made my own setup inside, where the breakers do not actually plug into buss bars like they do in a typical breaker box, but instead custom made copper connectors feed them (using short runs of 6awg wire) from the hot wire busses that are bolted, but isolated, from the case.
Why not use DIN rail breakers such as: https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Low-vo.../dp/B07KNPM6T2


Aaron Z
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