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Old 08-02-2012, 08:42 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Maybe some usefull info:

In Europe we have the 'old' nissan r160, R260( SWB), and W160, W260 (LWB)
not the strongest axles, break easly when 33' or bigger is fitted.
These axels are perfect for suzuki, the axles will hold up to 37 inch.

The nissan Y60 and Y61 have H233b axles, Y60 is made from 89 till 98.
Y61 is made from 98 to 2005

I have a Y60 with Y61 axles, because the front axle is stronger.




LS = Limited slip. 37:8 = 4.625 = Y60 gearing.
LS = Limited slip. 37:9 = 4.11 = Y61 Gearing (guessing it has to do with the 3.0 commonrail diesel)

Axle housing is the same in size, y61 is stronger at some places.

Y60/Y61 axle weights 136 kilogram

empty axle = 32 kg
diff clock = 40 kg
2x axle shaft + wheel hub = 34kg
Brake disks = 20kg
brake calliper = 10kg


Limited slip diff, Old R LSD's are smaller then Y60 and Y61



Small R differential vs Y60 diff, bearings are the same though.
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:51 AM   #127 (permalink)
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Y60 Sattelite wheels from a rear H233b




Y61 front axle: 8 cm wider then Y60. (bigger Velocity joints)


Old Y60 axle (400.000km and hardcore off-road abusement)


Rusty one is Y60 front (32mm), shiny one is Y61 rear (34mm)



Nissan vs Suzuki

Left is Y60, Right is Y61, much much bigger!
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:51 AM   #128 (permalink)
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I was able to break 1 y60 CV joint with 37 inch fedima sirocco tires in 3 years of extreme mudding.
The Y61 cv joint has been cut, to fit into the axle housing


Y61 housing vs Y60 housing, also bigger driveshaft mounts to fit the way bigger/stronger/heavyer drive shafts


Did not break a driveshaft or diff, but managed to break 3 transfer-case's.. The belt started slipping over the gears..



new one:
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:52 AM   #129 (permalink)
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I'm an Aussie, and have worked on Nissan Patrols for over 20 years (i just worked out I'm old)

The full floater came out in the H260 rear of the leaf sprung patrol tray, (Cab Chassis, pick up), although most of the early H233's are drum brake while the later are disc brake.

As far as the H233 you guys are talking about they are the same as the front Y60 - Y61 patrol, which is "BASICALLY" the same as the Pathfinder/ Hard body rear. 31 spline

The Patrol H233 rear has 33 spline axle these are 33mm @ the splines and increase quickly to over 40mm through the rest of the axle.

The H260 is a monster, and bloody heavy, in the early version Y60 they have a round "pumpkin" while the later have the bottom of the housing shaved off and have almost the same clearance as a H233, the axles start @ 38mm and increase to around 50mm in Diameter.

As for the strength of the axle, nothing is unbreakable, although i have seen the Rear H233 33 spline stand up to a lot of punishment, Supercharged LS1's, twin turbo LS1's, Duramax diesel, and a lot of other motor producing well over 500Hp.

I read someone saying the Toyota gear is stronger, sorry mate but no, you are wrong. The drive line out of the 60 series is close, but nothing I've seen come from Toyota has ever got close to the Y60 - Y61.

Dana drive train different story, although, i would have to say the Patrol H233 drive train is better than standard Dana 44 drive train

Below is care of ARB it is their locker application guide.

Y61, Patrol GU
Front
1998 on
H233B
32.0 (1.26")
31
All
RD1364,6


Rear
1998 on
H233B 'small'
33.3 (1.31")
33
All
RD1353,6


1998 on
H260 'large', 37 spline
38.4 (1.51")
37
All
RD2153,4


H260 'large', 34 spline, full-floating
34.8 (1.37")
34
All
RD2143
Y60, Patrol GQ
Front
1988-98
H233B,31 SPL
32.0 (1.26")
31
All
RD1364,6


Rear
1988-98
H233B,33 SPL
33.3 (1.31")
33
All
RD1353,6


1988-98
H260, leaf sprung cab chassis & utility
38.4 (1.51")
37
All
RD2154
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:06 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Good stuff. I love the h233s.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:00 AM   #131 (permalink)
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....i read someone saying the toyota gear is stronger, sorry mate but no, you are wrong. The drive line out of the 60 series is close, but nothing i've seen come from toyota has ever got close to the y60 - y61...
I like this guy, he knows whats up.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:30 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Hi,

sorry to digg this old post up, but there was some interesting information here and i loike to know something for shure.

I am considering buying a nissan patrol from 2006 to 2008 in europe.

Is this patrol identical in axles and frame compared to australian/US-models?

Is the short frame as strong as the long one?

And are the axles&frame of those last patrol models equal in strenght to those of a jeep wrangler rubicon??

Greetings
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Old 07-21-2014, 12:31 AM   #133 (permalink)
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The US doesn't get the Patrol, unless it's old and/or imported.
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