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Old 03-07-2018, 09:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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80% Lower

Going to delve into the 80% world. Looking for recommendations into a reputable company with great support. If they have a JIG/ tooling combo, thatís a plus.

Looking at Juggernaut Tactical and 80percentarms so far. 80percentarms seems to be more reasonable on price point. Both seem to be offering them in billet but 80%arms shows configurations in AR, 9, and 308. Another option is polymer company Tennessee Arms, which I just ordered some 100% lowers from so Iím waiting to see how that experience goes.

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Old 03-07-2018, 09:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I get my stuff from hellfirearmory.com high quality and great people to deal with
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I have been thinking about buying one of these.

https://www.polymer80.com/ar-15-lower/p80-g150-nkit
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I picked up the 80% arms kit and a blem billet lower as well as another brand of forged lower. Used a full size router to do the forged lower and it went well just slow going. It did chip a tooth off the end of the cutter but it still finished the job. This seems to be a problem with these types of setups. I have not done the billet lower yet. Overall no real complaints from any of their stuff. My only previous experience in the 80% world had been with a poly lower and a dremel tool and after doing this I see no reason to do another poly lower.

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I used 80%, i liked them quite a bit, thier customer service was awesome. Shipped me a chipped bit, showed the pic's and they overnighted me another one.

I found when doing it with a router I got the best finish on the trigger pocket buy hogging it out first, keeping the bit about 1/16" from the edge of the template, then doing that last 1/16" at full depth. left the best finish on the wall.
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I get my stuff from hellfirearmory.com high quality and great people to deal with
Their stuff is on higher end similar to Juggernaut. Thanks tho for the info.


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I have been thinking about buying one of these.

https://www.polymer80.com/ar-15-lower/p80-g150-nkit
Seriously considered going Polymer, but the price to a billet 80 from 80% is negligible.


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I picked up the 80% arms kit and a blem billet lower as well as another brand of forged lower. Used a full size router to do the forged lower and it went well just slow going. It did chip a tooth off the end of the cutter but it still finished the job. This seems to be a problem with these types of setups. I have not done the billet lower yet. Overall no real complaints from any of their stuff. My only previous experience in the 80% world had been with a poly lower and a dremel tool and after doing this I see no reason to do another poly lower.
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I used 80%, i liked them quite a bit, thier customer service was awesome. Shipped me a chipped bit, showed the pic's and they overnighted me another one.

I found when doing it with a router I got the best finish on the trigger pocket buy hogging it out first, keeping the bit about 1/16" from the edge of the template, then doing that last 1/16" at full depth. left the best finish on the wall.
Great info. Iím leaning to getting a batch of their lowers.
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if you go the AR-10 route I'll rent my jig out for $50.
anything you break you replace.
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if you go the AR-10 route I'll rent my jig out for $50.
anything you break you replace.
That jig made outta unobtanium? Both ar-15 and ar-10 jigs from hellfire are $51
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That jig made outta unobtanium? Both ar-15 and ar-10 jigs from hellfire are $51
Cool, buy one then.


this is the one I have:

https://www.80percentarms.com/collec...s/308-easy-jig
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Thanks for the offer but we are planning to only do AR15s at this time. Planning to go with the Juggernaut jig system.
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Cool, buy one then.


this is the one I have:

https://www.80percentarms.com/collec...s/308-easy-jig
I did and they work just fine. Congratulations on spending a lot more money on yours, Iíll buy more lowers with the money I saved and finish them with my inferior jig
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I did and they work just fine. Congratulations on spending a lot more money on yours, Iíll buy more lowers with the money I saved and finish them with my inferior jig
High five!!
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I think my jig is a T R enabling or something like that... I got a couple of their steel top plates so they don't wear out like the aluminum ones...

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5DTactical Jig + DeWalt 611 router
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If I have access to a well working old mill, would it be preferable to a router?

Iím guessing yes.
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If I have access to a well working old mill, would it be preferable to a router?

Iím guessing yes.
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Iím guessing yes.
The jigs are idiot-proof and quicker, especially if the mill does not have DRO.
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My priority at this point is getting the lowers ordered up in the next couple of weeks. Then shoot for a JIG system next month. My buddy will be going half on it. We also have access to a mill.


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What's the point of 80% lowers unless you live in a state with registration and don't want the gun on the books? Lowers are dirt cheap right now, is it really worth it to do your own?
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Tactical machining seems to be out of their blems

https://firearmsunknown.com/FU2/forg...nor-blems.html
First I've heard of firearms unknown, but $30 ($9 shipping) for raw.
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What's the point of 80% lowers unless you live in a state with registration and don't want the gun on the books? Lowers are dirt cheap right now, is it really worth it to do your own?
Its a fun project, makes you feel like your "sticking it to the man", some one that has a mill like myself makes it easier to just buy what i want online at a slightly cheaper price instead of waiting on bg checks. Thats what works for me.
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Iím guessing yes.
Yes, just pay attention to your offsets. Otherwise your trigger pocket gets a little roomy and you have to do a little afro engineering for your safety selector.
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What's the point of 80% lowers unless you live in a state with registration and don't want the gun on the books? Lowers are dirt cheap right now, is it really worth it to do your own?
As mentioned, itís a way of sticking it to the man. Iím currently looking to see any restrictions in Texas. Looks like California will be the only state having to serialize their lowers starting in July.


On another note, is an 80% Lower technically considered in the same category as say a handguard or butt stock considering itís not a firearm?
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Yes, just pay attention to your offsets. Otherwise your trigger pocket gets a little roomy and you have to do a little afro engineering for your safety selector.
Shit with the top plate guide on most jigs you don't even have to think about it... just hog out the middle and then follow the guide plate around the edges to get it to size.
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The jigs are idiot-proof and quicker, especially if the mill does not have DRO.
I'd say a lot quicker. Plus you'd still need to make some sort of fixture to get the lower to sit dead flat on the table.

Took me maybe 30 min per from start to finish.
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