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Old 06-29-2014, 08:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Where to practice rally driving in Kansas?

I live in Topeka Kansas and I am considering building a rally car, but before I do I would like to make sure that there are places I can drive it other than the local rallycross. I would prefer to drive on private roads so that I can drive hard without worrying about legality and possible traffic. I was wondering if there were any fast/easy off road trails, I've looked at a few off road parks online but they only show pictures of the really challenging stuff (rock crawling, mudding, etc...) that even the best rally cars couldn't handle. I'm just looking for some type of closed dirt/gravel trail to have fun on. I want to build a rally car, but if I can only drive it at rallycross events it's not worth it to me. I want to be able to go out and play whenever I feel like it. Do you guys have any suggestions?
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down here there isn't much land that is legal for use

locked state parks, down by me you have to call to get the gate combo to go in.
mud parks, you can talk to whoever runs it and try it out during the week

talk to smaller quarry owners about using their property
also private farm land.

remember to check out scaa.com and grassrootsmotorsports.com
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Years back, we had some favorite "closed course" roads. Basically a nice 4 mile road, with no side access, no residences. We'd run from midnight to four am. Typically we had four to six vehicles. CB radio days.... first car took it easy. When it reached the end, It would park and radio back.... our target time was four minutes for four miles (yes, avg was 60 mph). Dirt, creek crossing, long sweeping bends. Good visibility (safety first) as you would see any headlights.

It was great practice runs. Coffee/pepsi/water. Zero alcohol. I managed to roll my Datsun 510 on that road. Years later the county had an auction, and there was the old bullet hole riddled street sign there. Friend bought it for $1, and mailed it too me. Fun memories. No we didn't shoot the sign, but give an idea of the area (glad they didn't use my car for target practice!)
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Thanks guys!
I'll have to go check out a few state parks. I was recently in Wyoming and I noticed how the county roads were basically off road courses. The ones I saw were all dirt/sand, no gravel, and often went up steep hills. There was no way you could get up without 4WD and a locking diff.

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do you remember the street name, I'd love to go check it out! Sorry you rolled your 510 (I love Datsuns) but the road sounds like a blast!

I'll do some more digging and then decide if it's worth it to build a rally car.
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Man.. I spent a good 45 minutes digging around on google earth in your neck of the woods. There is nothing short of 4wd trails to play on. I was lucky enough to live in the country with hundreds of mile of dirt roads that had no traffic on them to practice on. I cant even find any farms with twisty roads in your area. OHV parks look to be your best bet, man. IF you do get permission to do some practice runs there, bring friends to close down the trail entrances the area you want to practice on. Last thing you ever want is to do is fly around a corner and suddenly be facing an ATV or something.
If you are unsure about being able to close the trail for your use, keep the car at a speed that you can shut it down QUICKLY if need be. Get some gravel tires first.
Above all else, be safe.
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Thanks guys!
I'll have to go check out a few state parks. I was recently in Wyoming and I noticed how the county roads were basically off road courses. The ones I saw were all dirt/sand, no gravel, and often went up steep hills. There was no way you could get up without 4WD and a locking diff.

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do you remember the street name, I'd love to go check it out! Sorry you rolled your 510 (I love Datsuns) but the road sounds like a blast!

I'll do some more digging and then decide if it's worth it to build a rally car.
Keep in mind that was almost forty years ago! Doesn't seem possible, but Latrobe Road, White Rock, Plymouth. The roads were dirt/gravel with low water crossings. Pretty sure these days everything is paved, bridged, and way too many people live out there!

We actually got permission to run part of the "Golden West 2000" out there, and closed the roads with Sac Sheriffs help. A friend of mine was very competitive, and working the rally with me. Had my bridge ported rally RX-2, told Lorie to jump into the drivers seat and I'll call turns for her. Lead car had already gone ahead (radio was "all clear") and this was a non-timed transit section, so time to have fun. I was telling Lorie... full throttle, don't let up as it is a sweeping corner. I knew the roads very well, each and every corner I was calling what was around the bend. Hauling butt, I screwed up and told her "flat out on this one".... but it was a tight corner, and off we went into the ditch. There had been a car behind us, matching our pace, so they stopped to strap us out. It was Rod Millen. He took one look at Lorie (5' tall cute blond) and commented "Damn, she was driving!, fawk I was almost flat out keeping up with you guys!".
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