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Old 08-03-2018, 10:27 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I've been bit by a baby in my garage. Was putting a ladder away with flip flops on. Stepped near it and got bit for my troubles. 2 days in the ICU, a gigantically swollen foot, and 15 vials of antivenin later (only $10k/per billed to my insurance) and I was fine. Took a week before I could walk without a limp again, but no long term problems.
Friggin flip-flops, that is how my mom got bit by a young one watering her garden one evening in the early '90's. Said she never heard a rattle, or seen the snake, just a spot of blood on her toe like she had got stuck something sharp. When it started to throb/burn she iced it up while laying on the couch. When it was swollen and burning/throbbing bad the next morning she wet off to the ER after doing the morning chores. I think they held her over night, and sent her home the next day, said she was lucky she iced her foot and that it slowed the travel of the poison. The rest of the season she wore rubber boots, but next spring-harvest, she was back to her sandals, said she had been bit once in 30yrs, figured the odds were in her favor of not getting bit again.

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Old 08-03-2018, 10:43 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Friggin flip-flops, that is how my mom got bit by a young one watering her garden one evening in the early '90's. Said she never heard a rattle, or seen the snake, just a spot of blood on her toe like she had got stuck something sharp. When it started to throb/burn she iced it up while laying on the couch. When it was swollen and burning/throbbing bad the next morning she wet off to the ER after doing the morning chores. I think they held her over night, and sent her home the next day, said she was lucky she iced her foot and that it slowed the travel of the poison. The rest of the season she wore rubber boots, but next spring-harvest, she was back to her sandals, said she had been bit once in 30yrs, figured the odds were in her favor of not getting bit again.
Yep. Mine got me pretty damned good. It was a Mojave Green, which Internet experts keep telling me doesn't exist here, but it had the great mix of neurotoxins and shimmering green body they have, so they can eat dick.

Mine was impossible to ignore. Felt at first like I had stepped on welding wire, but when I went to pull it out, I saw the snake and the two holes in my foot. Hurt like a motherfucker immediately (like 100x bee sting), then started getting the metallic taste in my mouth, followed by that tingling feeling you get when you wake up with your arm asleep, except over my entire body and a gazillion times more painful.
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Let's make sure and not exaggerate this and make it out to be a negative thing to see rattlesnakes on the trail. They are a very vital part of the ecosystem and beautiful, respectable creatures.

It is great to hear that most people on this thread realize that, are mature, and don't have the immediate ignorant city slicker response of "kill that thing." We don't want those kind of people on our trails, or anywhere! They want to be left alone and don't want any interaction with you any more than you want with them. I completely understand the safety issue that comes into play with young children and dogs. Just be aware of your surroundings and try to properly and positively educate everyone about them.

Luckily our native species - Northern Pacific Rattlesnake (Crotalus Viridus Oreganus) is one of the least aggressive and venomous of all rattlesnake species, as evident by the medical responses and recoveries of CA Snowtoy's mom vs. Rockwood's bites. The Northern Pacific's have a mild hemotoxin, while the Mojave Green has an extremely potent neurotoxin.

Final message - Stay safe out there and respect our wildlife!
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:09 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Yikes. I've been there 4 times and not only haven't seen one, but it never crossed my mind that I might!!

Do they generally mind there own business and as long as you keep your distance they won't bother you or is this something to have higher concern about?
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:15 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Let's make sure and not exaggerate this and make it out to be a negative thing to see rattlesnakes on the trail. They are a very vital part of the ecosystem and beautiful, respectable creatures.



Final message - Stay safe out there and respect our wildlife!
I agree with that!

The ones I have encountered this year have been quite chill. I am pretty sure one slept under our tent and when we got up his alarm must have also gone off and he went on his way, without making a sound. I got really lucky last fall, almost stepped on a big guy but a big ol' lizard scurried by attracting my attention down to my feet and I was able to stop with a few inches to go. Now when I go hiking with my young boys I bring a big stick, make a lot of noise, slow down and check each step. I hike in mesh shoes and board shorts, I am likely going to rethink that.

I wonder if they have always been there in these numbers but their pray may have changed to something that spends more time near people as well. It is odd that the old timers are also surprised at their numbers though. I've been up there 12 years and this sure seems like a spike in their numbers/activity level to me.
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I'd be carrying my cow rope to lay around my tent, isn't that what the old cowboys did? Lol

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last year, a few friends and I were swimming in the granite pools just north of the springs and when walking back the ~20 ft to the buggies in our flip flops, my buddy stepped right over one and it scurried off once he placed his foot down right next to it. None of us saw it until it started taking off.
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I'd be carrying my cow rope to lay around my tent, isn't that what the old cowboys did? Lol

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Just googled, looks like they won't cross horse hair ropes cause it scratches their belly, now searching eBay...

Last Dusy trip I got drunk and slept under my tent. I think that will be the last time...
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Final message - Stay safe out there and respect our wildlife!
Thanks for the sensitivity training but I have been out there enough to know that rattlesnakes have no problems trying to cuddle up to you.

Rubicon: Sitting in a beach chair and reached down to throw a twig. It was a rattlesnake. Rattlesnakes under the toilets and sticking one's head out a knot hole in the floor.

Sheeps Crossing Trail: There were so many snakes that year near our fishing river, we had a 24/7 snake watch in camp. Sorry we dispensed with about 12. There were plenty left...and we left also.

Mojave desert area: I got heat prostration in a race. Stopped and laid down under my bike for shade. Guy came up and killed a rattler under me before helping. Welding at Dumont Dunes and noticed something out the side of my helmet. Sidewinder headed right for me. They can really haul a__.

Maybe an intended consequence of the Incinerating California Fires. Wildlife management.

Carry on...........
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Just spent 5 nights at Buck, never saw a single rattle snake. A few small water snakes and little black and yellow snake... NO Rattlers in sight. We were very cautious since we had a small dog and child with us. Went on hikes, day run to the Springs and no snakes.

We did however have Bears visit us the last 2 nights. Got into our food, but not too bad.

Water was great, air was smokey for most of the week which was a bummer.
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