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Old 01-10-2009, 06:27 PM   #176 (permalink)
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here is what we did for mine. Reciever mount easy to remove. Flaps are 18 x 24. I have an extra flap that is 24 x 36 if anyone wants to buy it.
That is the solution I was looking for! Way bettr then welding badoings to my bumper. I like the fact that they wil come off that easy and I just happen to have a unused chunk of reciever stock I couldn't seem to toss but couldn't seem to figure out what to do with. Maybe a nice pink color and a little sticky saying something flipant.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:32 AM   #177 (permalink)
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I tried to read all of this. And understand. I apologize if this is construed as not contributing. But I have wheeled the Rube since 01, and have a simple, self-indulgent question. Does the enforcement at hand extend to the Wentworth access point ?? I am within a smog check, some fees and some new lenses of DOT on pavement legality regardless. Thanks and good luck to all.
Yup, seen this on Wentworth Springs Road at least as far down as Uncle Tom's and at the WWS campground. get it fixed, I guess
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someone must be fighting his tickets. i was turning in some paperwork at the placerville courthouse today and saw him standing in the lobby.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:23 AM   #179 (permalink)
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I have a friend that just had his ticket Thrown out of court..
Case Dismissed.... I think the judge is getting tired of these cheesy fix-it citations.
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I just want to join in the fun. Not sure if it's the same LEO cuz I forget his name on the ticket but a group of fullsizes with me we're going wheeling and heading up georgetown rd. Passed a leo and radio back to let everyone know. The group had about 10 rigs driving up and I was in the lead with two behind me. He jumped behind our pack of three so we pulled over and as he walked up our second half of the group was able to pass by.

Awarded three: No mud flaps, missing plates (front plate), and out of date insurance (need to print new). All resolvable and didn't ruin the day.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:15 AM   #181 (permalink)
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...just to make it easy for the fella I talked to on the side of the road to find this thread and give his input when he comes from his wheeling trip this weekend.

PS: El Dorado Sheriffs Office supervisors - if you're reading this, please tell your people to take just a minute out of their day to stop and say hello to a volunteer at the kiosk or trail. One of your people came down the spillway and turned around and went back up without even giving me a chance to say hello or offer a cookie. And NO, they were not busy with a call because they immediately parked at the top of the spillway and sat there for some time. We need to bridge the gap between us. The rangers are open to communication and it's a pleasant interaction - maybe you guys could follow suit?

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Old 05-31-2009, 11:00 AM   #183 (permalink)
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...just to make it easy for the fella I talked to on the side of the road to find this thread and give his input when he comes from his wheeling trip this weekend.

PS: El Dorado Sheriffs Office supervisors - if you're reading this, please tell your people to take just a minute out of their day to stop and say hello to a volunteer at the kiosk or trail. One of your people came down the spillway and turned around and went back up without even giving me a chance to say hello or offer a cookie. And NO, they were not busy with a call because they immediately parked at the top of the spillway and sat there for some time. We need to bridge the gap between us. The rangers are open to communication and it's a pleasant interaction - maybe you guys could follow suit?

Agreed, they were a little stand-offish at Ellis too, until they needed their rig fixed
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:13 PM   #184 (permalink)
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I was pulled over for touching the yellow line and jerking back into my lane.
My responce was that I didn't think I had touched the line or jerked the wheel.
Officer Ken ask for my paper work.
Smile and said my registration was out of date.
I did find the current registration and insurance.
He ran my information an let me off with a warning.
He was polite and I was polite in return.
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:43 PM   #185 (permalink)
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I was pulled over for touching the yellow line and jerking back into my lane.
My responce was that I didn't think I had touched the line or jerked the wheel.
Officer Ken ask for my paper work.
Smile and said my registration was out of date.
I did find the current registration and insurance.
He ran my information an let me off with a warning.
He was polite and I was polite in return.

Maybe he's becomming a little nicer. We will see...
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Old 05-31-2009, 04:02 PM   #186 (permalink)
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I was pulled over for touching the yellow line and jerking back into my lane.
He ran my information an let me off with a warning.
My focus here is to bridge the gap between us from a standpoint of "rednecks" and the law.
Unfortunately you were not driving an older, lifted truck with big tires.
If you had, I am curious if the outcome would have been different.

Edit: On second thought, I should probably not use the word "redneck" but rather focus on "Rubicon trucks" vs. street cars/trucks. After all, this is the Rubicon forum.

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Old 05-31-2009, 08:12 PM   #187 (permalink)
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When you are on the interstate, I'm sure you keep it between the lines.Whats the difference.You were driving on a county road.Expect Eldorado County to give tickets for actions that are against the law
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wondering.... if i have nevada plates can i be stopped/cited for an onh pavement mud flap issue? i can see the logic w/ a CA plated rig, but something about that pesky interstate commerce clause troubles me...


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Bring it on! Get the ticket and let's have a judge make the call. I am tired of speculation.

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Old 06-01-2009, 01:28 PM   #190 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by chevyjepp View Post
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I was pulled over for touching the yellow line and jerking back into my lane.
He ran my information an let me off with a warning.


Touching the yellow line is not a reason to pull you over you must fully cross it.

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Old 06-01-2009, 01:37 PM   #191 (permalink)
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...just to make it easy for the fella I talked to on the side of the road to find this thread and give his input when he comes from his wheeling trip this weekend.
Yep, that was me. Here's the story for all of you curious readers: I broke my rear drive shaft on the trail, used my front (square) in the rear to get me out of the trail and down ice house rd as my top speed was limited by vibration to 30mph. At mile marker 4 I saw a forest service ranger behind and flagged him down, my intent was to let him know I wanted to leave my truck somewhere for the night and ask for help if he could provide it. Little did I know I would be dealing with Kenny Marcus. He checked my license, registration, asked if I was smoking pot () and listened to my explanation of what happened. When I told him about my top speed being limited, he said I was operating an unsafe vehicle and would be impeding the flow of traffic (on ice house rd, mind you). Apparently the speed limit is 55mph. I tried to reassure him that I had no intent of driving on highway 50 and was only driving on ice house to get cell service and make the recovery easier for me. Kenny Marcus said the vehicle is still unsafe and told me to leave it on the side of the road, and gave me a ticket.

MORAL: carry a spare d-shaft.

edit: brakes and steering had no issues, the back wheels were powered, the engine and transmission had no problems. nothing was unsafe about what i was doing from a reasonable person's perspective.

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Sorry to hear that you met good ol Kenny Boy.
I suggest that you fight the ticket when it comes.
I hear that the judge is a little tired of Kenny.
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Old 06-01-2009, 02:47 PM   #193 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting Will. 55mph? I don't think I hit that speed anywhere along that road.

Now - if we could get some clarification as to what is the MINIMUM speed limit to avoid getting a ticket?

Ice House road has sharp curves and cliffs. I could see a granny or trailered rig going 20-30mph in a lot of spots. To me, this is SAFE(the opposite of unsafe).

If there is a law on the books that says you MUST go within 10mph of the top speed limit, I'd like to know about it.

The #1 reason I posted and asked Will to share his story is because I met him and his girlfriend and I will tell you right now - they are good folks. I'm a good judge of character, and he's definately not the guy you would assume is doing drugs. HOWEVER, at a particular campsite I saw plenty of sketchy people that I'm quite certain are into drugs and crime. I wonder if they got a visit? I'm almost sure they were the ones that stole the fishing poles and tackle from the guys on dirtbikes at the top of the spillway.

We need a little benefit of the doubt from Kenny. We need a little more info on exactly why the law was broken so we can avoid doing it again. We want a good relationship with the law - but it's hard to have that happen when you sit there and do what you think is right only to get slapped with a ticket.

Will - did the ticket read "unsafe vehicle" or "driving too slow"? Post up the code section for it if you get a chance.
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VC24002 (a) is what he cited me for.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24002.htm

It should be extremely easy to get out, but a needless headache nonetheless.
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maximum speed limit on all california undivided (aka no center divides or 30 yards of open space) highways is 55mph...i have had my lisence suspended for 6 months...got alot of speeding tickets on e-16 in my little car

i dont know the exact code but im willing to bet my entire paycheck that thats right.
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There's two sides to every story -- I recommend you write yours down with every detail that you can remember now, separate of your girfriend. Ask her to do the same, but do not compare notes. Come back to it tomorrow, and add more details as they come to each of you -- you're building a case. When you have that, have a friend edit them (I can help if necessary), and then submit by email to the Interim Patrol Captain, with a cc: to Officer Marcus and the Forest Supervisor.

With what you've reported, the ticket is ludicrous, and can be fought successfully in court, IMHO. I'll go further and say that it is your DUTY as a citizen to fight this ticket. If we don't call these unreasonable tickets, we all loose.

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Now - if we could get some clarification as to what is the MINIMUM speed limit to avoid getting a ticket?
I remember hearing somewhere that the minimum speed limit was 15mph under the posted maximum. But after talking to my brother (Redwood City PD) it is up to the discretion of the officerand depends on the condition.It all comes down to letter of the law VS spirit of the law. 30mph might be alright as long as you aren't slowing down the flow of traffic. His point of view, he would have escorted you down to a safe place to park your truck.
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With what you've reported, the ticket is ludicrous, and can be fought successfully in court, IMHO. I'll go further and say that it is your DUTY as a citizen to fight this ticket. If we don't call these unreasonable tickets, we all loose.

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Apparently the speed limit is 55mph. I tried to reassure him that I had no intent of driving on highway 50 and was only driving on ice house to get cell service and make the recovery easier for me. Kenny Marcus said the vehicle is still unsafe and told me to leave it on the side of the road, and gave me a ticket.
I am not a very observant person, but the only speed limit signs I ever remember seeing on Ice House road are 25MPH. Coming from highway 50 I believe there is one near the first sharp corner heading up the hill.

Does it increase heading towards Loon Lake?

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30mph might be alright as long as you aren't slowing down the flow of traffic. His point of view, he would have escorted you down to a safe place to park your truck.
There was ZERO traffic behind him, according to our discussion. I'm aware of a rule if there's 5 cars behind you, you need to pull over and let them pass. This does not apply here, of course.

I like your brothers "point of view", by the way.
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