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Old 09-04-2018, 04:58 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I'm really happy with mine so far. I really like the cantilever gantry because I can let the material overhang wherever it needs to be. I am getting some lower dross but I'm pretty certain it's because I'm using a chineese TIG/plasma combo for which the plasma has never been that great. The cuts themselves are very clean and the dross cleans up very easy, way easier than flapping the mill scale off the steel which is required for welding anyways. Honestly this cuts better than several other CNC plasmas I've paid for parts off of.

Langmuir's customer service has been phenomenal also. They have really gone above and beyond for me.



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Old 09-04-2018, 05:26 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I'm really happy with mine so far. I really like the cantilever gantry because I can let the material overhang wherever it needs to be. I am getting some lower dross but I'm pretty certain it's because I'm using a chineese TIG/plasma combo for which the plasma has never been that great. The cuts themselves are very clean and the dross cleans up very easy, way easier than flapping the mill scale off the steel which is required for welding anyways. Honestly this cuts better than several other CNC plasmas I've paid for parts off of.

Langmuir's customer service has been phenomenal also. They have really gone above and beyond for me.
When did you get yours and what's the order # series? They were in the 1200s about two weeks ago. I'm in the 1500s and am getting real anxious.
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I'm like serial #34 or something like that. I've had it for a bit
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:40 AM   #79 (permalink)
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cant wait!!
batch 2 suppose to ship end of the September

meanwhile i plumbed air dryer

1/2" NPT ball valve >1/2 NPT to 1/2" barb fitting > 1/2" air line>1/2NPT to 1/2" barb to air source

and outlet has 1/2" NPT to 3/8 reducer and quick connect fitting
that way i can move it and service it




right above air dryer is hose reel with quick connect that gets connected to plasma cutter


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Old 09-12-2018, 10:18 AM   #80 (permalink)
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cant wait!!
batch 2 suppose to ship end of the September
They're not even done with batch 1

I'm gonna call today and get an update. It's September and I was promised a unit in July.

Edit: Speak of the damn devil! Not 5 minutes after this post I got the shipping notification!
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:15 AM   #81 (permalink)
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They're not even done with batch 1

I'm gonna call today and get an update. It's September and I was promised a unit in July.

Edit: Speak of the damn devil! Not 5 minutes after this post I got the shipping notification!
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:54 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Got mine Friday, assembled it tonight. Went together smoothly, no issues. Very easy to make adjustments and set the gantry height at both ends.

Surprisingly high quality and very well laid out. Instructional videos are easy to follow and flow well. I値l be wiring up my Hypertherm 65 for it tomorrow. Still want to find a machine torch for it but will be using the hand torch for now.

It fits well in the corner of my small shop and seems to be the perfect solution so far. I ordered a water table separately once I realized they changed it to aluminum. For now I値l setup a fan and make sure to stand back as I cut.
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@gtxracer, I have also been waiting for you to receive yours. I wanted to hear your review before I make my decision.

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mine is schedule to ship out on 23rd my order # 2557
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For those on the fence for this size table, I would also look at the Wright CNC 2x2. Just got mine and very impressed. Waiting on the machine torch, but comes with water pan, and I got mine with power Z and THC.
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:07 PM   #86 (permalink)
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The store just opened and they are now accepting orders for the next batch. My review is up above.

People can use my referral promo code for $40 off: FIRE1042
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For those on the fence for this size table, I would also look at the Wright CNC 2x2. Just got mine and very impressed. Waiting on the machine torch, but comes with water pan, and I got mine with power Z and THC.
What did that system cost with shipping?
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What did that system cost with shipping?


I got in on the early buy batch. With THC, Inkscape, Mach3, and Sheetcam was $1600 shipped.
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thats not bad and very comparable $$
i like the(Z) THC function
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Old 09-17-2018, 01:52 PM   #90 (permalink)
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@gtxracer, I have also been waiting for you to receive yours. I wanted to hear your review before I make my decision.

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Thank you. I cut my first parts yesterday and everything went well. Just need to dial in the cutter speeds and get more details on the consumables.

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I got in on the early buy batch. With THC, Inkscape, Mach3, and Sheetcam was $1600 shipped.
That looks like a great deal also. I saw their tables at KOH, I think. They look sturdy but I couldn't find someone to talk to me about their tables. The customer service aspect is a big deal to me. Also being able to expand the table myself was very appealing from the Langmuir side. They talked about it on their forum. Essentially, you can expand the table to 33" on the Y axis with just an extended Y slide. The motors don't limit the table, so you can expand the long side out to 4 or 8 feet. Then you could mate another gantry slide on the other size and keep it light to reduce load on the motor and essentially have a 4x4 or 4x8 pretty easily. Edit: Looks like Wright CNC has expansion kits available, but the kit alone is more than the Crossfire. Not a bad setup, I just wanted a super simple system that can cut my brackets and tabs for me instantly instead of waiting on someone else's table.

I could see myself moving to one of their 4x4s when I have a bigger shop. I think for the money, that would be a great deal for a small 4 car shop. If I could fit the 4x8, even better.

The THC is a big deal though. That really helps with longer cuts, the quality of the cut, and speeds. I bought plans for a larger table later on. I will probably leave this Crossfire at 2x2 and possibly expand to 2x4 later on. For now, it does what I need.
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According to the website, the Wright CNC 2x2 costs $3k now that the early batch is over. Quite a bit more expensive than the crossfire.
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What did that system cost with shipping?
I wanted to setup a set of legs like that one on mine. Was going to copy the tablesaw/chop saw I have.. then I realised that folding it up would probably just kick everything out of alignment and make a huge ass mess..

Does it work on that machine?
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I wanted to setup a set of legs like that one on mine. Was going to copy the tablesaw/chop saw I have.. then I realised that folding it up would probably just kick everything out of alignment and make a huge ass mess..



Does it work on that machine?


I have to say I was a little skeptical about this part, but it seems we値l built and feels solid. Mine will likely never really get folded, so not a true test. There are also leveling feet on it at well.

I didn稚 mean to distract from this thread, or say this is a better option, just another new option in the 2x2 table space. My machine torch gets delivered tomorrow, so hopefully start cutting with it soon.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:01 AM   #94 (permalink)
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order ##2557 Your order is estimated to ship on 10/23


shiiit i read that as 9/23
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Got mine Friday, assembled it tonight. Went together smoothly, no issues. Very easy to make adjustments and set the gantry height at both ends.

Surprisingly high quality and very well laid out. Instructional videos are easy to follow and flow well. I値l be wiring up my Hypertherm 65 for it tomorrow. Still want to find a machine torch for it but will be using the hand torch for now.

It fits well in the corner of my small shop and seems to be the perfect solution so far. I ordered a water table separately once I realized they changed it to aluminum. For now I値l setup a fan and make sure to stand back as I cut.
whats it take to wire up the hypertherm torch thinking about buying one but still want to be able to use the torch for non cnc cutting.
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whats it take to wire up the hypertherm torch thinking about buying one but still want to be able to use the torch for non cnc cutting.
Using a Hypertherm hand torch, you will splice into the orange and purple wires of the torch. This disables the safety features of the hand torch, you need to be aware that the torch will fire if Mach3 sends the torch fire signal. This is exactly how a massive fire and lawsuit started for Hypertherm.

You can still take the torch off the table and use it as a regular hand cut.

Currently looking at adding one of these for now to dry out the air since I don't really want to make a Franz air separator right now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
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Using a Hypertherm hand torch, you will splice into the orange and purple wires of the torch. This disables the safety features of the hand torch, you need to be aware that the torch will fire if Mach3 sends the torch fire signal. This is exactly how a massive fire and lawsuit started for Hypertherm.

You can still take the torch off the table and use it as a regular hand cut.

Currently looking at adding one of these for now to dry out the air since I don't really want to make a Franz air separator right now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1
If you live where its humid you will need more than that. I have 2 desicant bead filters, air water separator, oil separator, and a refrigerated dryer at my plasma table.

Once you kill $1000 in consumables in a couple months, all that equipment becomes much nicer lol.
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If you live where its humid you will need more than that. I have 2 desicant bead filters, air water separator, oil separator, and a refrigerated dryer at my plasma table.

Once you kill $1000 in consumables in a couple months, all that equipment becomes much nicer lol.
Thanks for chiming in.

It's not terribly humid here in the PNW but we do get air in the lines. It sounds like I'll want to put in a separator of some kind. I was planning to install a single or dual tube Franz separator at the 5hp 60 gal compressor and then run the paper filter at the table. The back of my Powermax 65 also has the small dryer on the machine. I am going to run this paper filter until I build the Franz device and monitor how much water is trapped. I don't want to be buying consumables by the box each month.
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Thanks for chiming in.

It's not terribly humid here in the PNW but we do get air in the lines. It sounds like I'll want to put in a separator of some kind. I was planning to install a single or dual tube Franz separator at the 5hp 60 gal compressor and then run the paper filter at the table. The back of my Powermax 65 also has the small dryer on the machine. I am going to run this paper filter until I build the Franz device and monitor how much water is trapped. I don't want to be buying consumables by the box each month.
Haha yeah I hear you. Mine was with a hypertherm 45xp FWIW. Not sure if others have less issues with water.
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Haha yeah I hear you. Mine was with a hypertherm 45xp FWIW. Not sure if others have less issues with water.
my little TD cutmaster 38 doesnt even cut for 10 min before i have to change
to new consumables otherwise it'll keep cutting in and out
that was with $$ 3 stage Devilbiss desiccant filter

im hoping the horrible freight compressed air dryer will get rid of all the moisture and ill be able to cut longer than that LOL
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