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Old 10-06-2019, 01:47 PM   #226 (permalink)
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Are the knockoff batteries any good?
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:55 PM   #227 (permalink)
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Are the knockoff batteries any good?

Absolutely hit or miss. I bought a two pack of 12 volt 3.0s, one was dead out of the box, the other was weaker than a Milwauke 2.0.
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Are the knockoff batteries any good?
I bought one by accident and it has a very short run time and loses its charge when sitting much quicker than the Milwaukee batteries.
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Old 10-06-2019, 06:59 PM   #229 (permalink)
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Because I already have those blades and have been using them for probably 10 years. Thanks for the firsthand knowledge about the chainsaw. I suppose a bow saw, hatchet, butter knife, or sharp stone might work also but I am asking for information about the chainsaw, I guess my previous posts have been too ambiguous.
well my first hand experience is it's heavy as fuck and doesn't last very long doing real work. We borrowed one to see if it would work out for my mother in law. Too heavy for her to comfortably wield overhead to prune with, and I wouldn't want to carry it up a tree. It did maybe 30 minutes of real work before the battery was drawn down to the point that a 20" trunk would stall it and force a restart.

the super fancy and ridiculously expensive stihl battery saw wasn't much better.


which is why I suggested a hackzall and pruning blades, because that's what we did for her.

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point that a 20" trunk would stall it and force a restart.
know how i know youre a dummy?

you tried using a cordless electric 16" saw to cut a 20" trunk
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Old 10-06-2019, 09:18 PM   #231 (permalink)
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Are the knockoff batteries any good?
I bought 2, 4.0 18v's off ebay, both died after the first use, I bitched and the seller sent me two more, which also were single use...

The two 4.0 m12 knockoffs have been good so far though..
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know how i know youre a dummy?

you tried using a cordless electric 16" saw to cut a 20" trunk

so you don't test things to the limit to find out what they're capable of?


I can put a 16" gas powered saw into something dumb and it still keeps cutting.
Milwaukee advertises it to have the power of a 40cc saw.
which would be more powerful than any of my gas saws.
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you drained the battery(probably a 5.0 who knows since your review so vague) for 30 minutes and then expect it to be able to cut into a 20" tree and thats your review, along with a mother in law not being able to use it to cut above her head because its heavy


worst review ever
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All you guys talking about a chainsaw--do any of these have an oiler shutoff valve? Us happy homeowners use a saw about once every 18 months. Every time, you open the case to discover the only time the oiler ever actually oiled anything is when it sits in the case.

So, I guess what I'm saying is--I need to either learn to dump all the bar oil out of the saw after use, or have a shutoff valve that keeps the oil in the reservoir. Has anyone added that to their cordless saw?
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I bought one by accident and it has a very short run time and loses its charge when sitting much quicker than the Milwaukee batteries.
This is my experience, too. Watch yourself on eBay.
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All you guys talking about a chainsaw--do any of these have an oiler shutoff valve? Us happy homeowners use a saw about once every 18 months. Every time, you open the case to discover the only time the oiler ever actually oiled anything is when it sits in the case.

So, I guess what I'm saying is--I need to either learn to dump all the bar oil out of the saw after use, or have a shutoff valve that keeps the oil in the reservoir. Has anyone added that to their cordless saw?
No shut off. And the oil does run out when sitting.
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which is why i store my saws on their side bar up
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Whats the best (cheapest) way to buy m18 tools? I have two stand up lights with batts, woud like a drill and maybe one batt. Home depot packages had an impact, but I already have those

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which is why i store my saws on their side bar up
Is that really all you have to do? I'm .
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you drained the battery(probably a 5.0 who knows since your review so vague) for 30 minutes and then expect it to be able to cut into a 20" tree and thats your review, along with a mother in law not being able to use it to cut above her head because its heavy


worst review ever
oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was being graded.

it's heavy
the battery doesn't last long.
and it does not have the power of a 40cc saw like they say it does, or putting a bar on it would be an option to use it for larger work, and not just the pruning that it would be suited for if it weren't so fucking heavy

the stihl saw had more power, but is dumb expensive and still suffers from a short battery life if you use it hard.
also heavy because battery.

I do think that both would be perfectly suited to occasional use for cutting down small trees, but then why not save yourself a fuckton of money and just buy a 100 dollar corded one? Or a pruning blade for a sawzall or hackzall?
they would be super handy for camping/trail saws.

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still didnt say what battery you used

shouldnt be using that saw with anything but a 12.0 if you want it to be comparable to a gas saw
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still didnt say what battery you used

shouldnt be using that saw with anything but a 12.0 if you want it to be comparable to a gas saw
it was the one that came with the thing when it was given to me to try out.
it was larger than my 5ah that's all I can tell you.
sorry I didn't pay that close attention.
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oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was being graded.

it's heavy
the battery doesn't last long.
and it does not have the power of a 40cc saw like they say it does, or putting a bar on it would be an option to use it for larger work, and not just the pruning that it would be suited for if it weren't so fucking heavy

the stihl saw had more power, but is dumb expensive and still suffers from a short battery life if you use it hard.
also heavy because battery.

I do think that both would be perfectly suited to occasional use for cutting down small trees, but then why not save yourself a fuckton of money and just buy a 100 dollar corded one? Or a pruning blade for a sawzall or hackzall?
they would be super handy for camping/trail saws.

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Which is why I think the Makita is the best battery powered saw right now. It's the right size and weight for what it is. Won't replace a fullsize for heavy use but it's meant for limbing and trail clearing. Perfect for the Jeep, motorcycle or UTV.


And on the topic of batteries the aH is run time only correct? 12aH just last longer then a 5aH but won't give you anymore power?
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12aH just last longer then a 5aH but won't give you anymore power?
wrong


https://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-m18-c...zes-explained/

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the makita saw is definitely the better option when it comes mother in laws or over head tree work while in a tree or a bucket lift
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won't let me view it at work but is it similar to RC cars where you get a bigger 'rate/push of power' for lack of correct terms?
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won't let me view it at work but is it similar to RC cars where you get a bigger 'rate/push of power' for lack of correct terms?
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The “standard” batteries are built with 18650 cells, whereas the new High Output batteries are built with larger 21700 cells. The 21700 Li-ion battery cells are available at higher charge capacities, delivering longer runtime. Not only that, the cells can provided more power, and Milwaukee’s High Output battery packs run cooler.

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they could definitely improve upon their current cordless chain saw by making a smaller lighter model, they are constantly upgrading and coming out with new tools so i wouldnt doubt they have something in the works.

im excited for the new nail guns and they finally made a proper skillsaw

https://milwaukeetool.com/Products/P...ailers/2745-20
https://milwaukeetool.com/Products/New-Products/2830-20

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im excited for the new nail guns and they finally made a proper skillsaw

https://milwaukeetool.com/Products/P...ailers/2745-20
https://milwaukeetool.com/Products/New-Products/2830-20
Iíve been needing to replace a Craftsman cordless and ponied up for that new saw. Went with the package deal with 12ah battery. Have very little use on it yet, but sure seems like it will replace the corded skilsaw and is worlds better than the Craftsman it is replacing.

Kinda used this as my gateway drug to get other Milwaukee tools.
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Iíve been needing to replace a Craftsman cordless and ponied up for that new saw. Went with the package deal with 12ah battery. Have very little use on it yet, but sure seems like it will replace the corded skilsaw and is worlds better than the Craftsman it is replacing.

Kinda used this as my gateway drug to get other Milwaukee tools.
ive been trying to give myself an excuse to replace my perfectly fine(besides the handle being on the wrong side) older(1yr old) 2731-20 saw
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PGQ6D2W/
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Which is why I think the Makita is the best battery powered saw right now. It's the right size and weight for what it is. Won't replace a fullsize for heavy use but it's meant for limbing and trail clearing. Perfect for the Jeep, motorcycle or UTV.

FWIW, I know a guy with a kobalt 80V saw from lowes, who hasn't touched his gas saw in 4+ years, and cuts 8 cord a year to feed an outdoor wood boiler. Maybe its a fluke, but impressive none the less..
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