What's on Your Shop Walls (tables and charts) ? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > General Tech > Shop and Tools
Notices

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-01-2018, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
gumboot cloggeroo
 
Muckin_Slusher's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Member # 467233
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,846
What's on Your Shop Walls (tables and charts) ?

Probably a thread of this at GJ, but fuck 'em.

I don't have a mobile phone, or internet at my shop and I'm occasionally needing information like trailer harness pinouts or bolt torques.

What is handy to have displayed?

Tap/die drill bit stuff, conversions from fractions to .000 to metric,
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

-------------------------
Last edited by Muckin_Slusher; Today at 04:47 PM.
Muckin_Slusher is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-01-2018, 05:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
Broke Bastard
 
Benny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Member # 1129
Location: North Idaho
Posts: 4,104
Blog Entries: 1
Pin up girls
__________________
Every day is better than the next.
Benny is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Old 12-01-2018, 10:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
Rednek
 
billybob_81067's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Member # 52387
Location: Rocky Ford, Colorado
Posts: 8,760
Send a message via AIM to billybob_81067 Send a message via MSN to billybob_81067 Send a message via Yahoo to billybob_81067
Drill sizes in decimal form
Tap drill sizes (including NPT tap drill sizes)
Bolt size torque chart
Speeds and feeds for different materials (if you do machining)
Sheet metal gauge thickness in decimal
Wire gauge thickness amp carrying capacity (for electrical stuff)
AN/JIC fitting chart with the fitting thread size?
Trailer plug pinout


I need to get some more/different charts put up. Have a handy dandy hot laminating machine that would be perfect to laminate some with.

I have the drill sizes up on just regular printer paper, and tap drill sizes, but I need to include the NPT tap drill sizes. Also have a trailer pinout printed out and in a plastic sleeve, Would be smart to re-do it and laminate it too.

Another thing is if you keep a bunch of oil/fuel filters on hand is to make a chart with the filter number and what all it fits. We have a cabinet full of filters and have some hand scribbled notes on what the stuff fits. I need to really re-do that sometime too.

This is a good idea for a thread. Hopefully others post up some good ideas for other charts, and if anyone finds any real good charts post them up for fucks sake!

Man I used to have those charts saved on my computer, but that has been years and years ago. Now I can't find them. I will keep looking.
__________________
The one, the only, the Dane.

Last edited by billybob_81067; 12-01-2018 at 10:16 PM.
billybob_81067 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-02-2018, 06:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2018
Member # 844201
Location: Pacific northwest
Posts: 38
Tits!
madcratebuilder is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-02-2018, 07:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Member # 181868
Location: North Florida
Posts: 3,328
Quote:
Originally Posted by billybob_81067 View Post
Drill sizes in decimal form
Tap drill sizes (including NPT tap drill sizes)
Bolt size torque chart
Speeds and feeds for different materials (if you do machining)
Sheet metal gauge thickness in decimal
Wire gauge thickness amp carrying capacity (for electrical stuff)
AN/JIC fitting chart with the fitting thread size?
Trailer plug pinout.
These are all good ideas except the bolt torque. I never use a torque wrench unless it's a critical item. In that case, you have to go to a manual because it might not be standard.

I wish they made a plastic poster size of the rest of that stuff. I'd be willing to pay.

The other thing I was planning to do was put up a chalk board. It would be good for putting up info that you want to save, but not forever. Example, the order of something you take apart. Your going to put it back together in a few days (when you get parts) It also could be good for drawing something your fabing.
__________________
Project : Amphibious HEMTT


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
waterhorse is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-02-2018, 08:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
Rednek
 
billybob_81067's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Member # 52387
Location: Rocky Ford, Colorado
Posts: 8,760
Send a message via AIM to billybob_81067 Send a message via MSN to billybob_81067 Send a message via Yahoo to billybob_81067
A lot of things that I think should be torqued don't have a specific torque mentioned. Like when putting a water pump on, there usually isn't a specific torque spec for that make and model, so I just go by the bolt size. Or when taking apart and putting back together a hydraulic pump. I'll just check the chart and go by the thread size and pitch for the torque spec. Also I build a lot of random shit, so if it is something bolted together precisely on machined surfaces that I want to take advantage of the maximum holding strength of the bolts I'll torque it to spec.

Now head bolts, main and rod bolts, etc, yes go by the specified torque for that specific application.

EDIT: Oh and if I'm bolting into aluminum threads I'll definitely torque to spec, cause you sure as hell don't want to overtighten the bolts and strip the threads out of the aluminum.
__________________
The one, the only, the Dane.

Last edited by billybob_81067; 12-02-2018 at 08:33 AM.
billybob_81067 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-02-2018, 08:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Member # 181868
Location: North Florida
Posts: 3,328
While I agree with what you're saying, I'm not going to get the torque wrench out. It's an extra step I don't have time for. I haven't had any serious issues with my arm torque wrench.
__________________
Project : Amphibious HEMTT


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
waterhorse is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-02-2018, 08:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Member # 859684
Posts: 16
Sounds like you need a copy of the pocket ref
Everything you want is in a handy black book that I keep in the top drawer of my tool box
Shorthood is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-03-2018, 04:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
arse_sidewards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Member # 256962
Location: People's Republic of Taxachusetts
Posts: 3,824
My walls are covered in paint and the paint is covered in metal dust.
arse_sidewards is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-03-2018, 06:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Member # 181868
Location: North Florida
Posts: 3,328
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorthood View Post
Sounds like you need a copy of the pocket ref
Everything you want is in a handy black book that I keep in the top drawer of my tool box
I have most of those tables in small charts or cards in differnt places around the shop, but a big easy to read poster would be better. Wind couldn't blow it away. I could put the drill size and tap chart right where I keep the drill bits. A small book would get lost or eaten by the dog.
__________________
Project : Amphibious HEMTT


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
waterhorse is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-03-2018, 09:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
freerider15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Member # 23795
Location: FoCo, Crawlorado
Posts: 2,096
Send a message via AIM to freerider15
Right now just a 2x3ish whiteboard. Having one of those to scribble on is well well worth it.

I've got a small list, but currently I plan on:

- Tap and Drill chart
- Drill conversion chart

Other than that not too much (as I don't have machining abilities).
__________________
XJ Based Buggy: 42's, Tons, Full Hydro, ORI's and a fukkton of tube...


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
freerider15 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-03-2018, 09:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Member # 207814
Location: N. Idaho
Posts: 512
The SPI decimal chart is a great place to start.

22" W x 32" H.

SPI Decimal Equivalent Wall Chart (Fraction, Wire Gage, Letter & Metric Sizes) - 98-034-2 - Penn Tool Co., Inc
__________________
1989 Toyota know as Captain America

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
NorIdaWheeler is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-03-2018, 12:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Member # 181868
Location: North Florida
Posts: 3,328
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorIdaWheeler View Post
I ordered one. Kind of sucked they charge $11 to ship.
__________________
Project : Amphibious HEMTT


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
waterhorse is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-03-2018, 12:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
Provience's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Member # 138976
Location: Thurston County, WA
Posts: 29,111
currently nothing except for notes that I've written to myself.

I want: to get a bunch of weld joint design charts up, I have a few.

a large tap/drill chart

a trig triangle picture

solving triangles

common speeds and feeds for things I use the most

speed formula and feed formula

tube coping base angles for various sizes

drill and lathe tool grinding example charts.

I like cluttered walls
__________________
up is difficult, down is dangerous

freedom of choice is what you have, freedom from choice is what you want

keep your head down, go to sleep to the rhythm of the war drums
Provience is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-03-2018, 05:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
bigdaddylee82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Member # 54666
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 3,198
I've got a similar version of this Starrett chart, and a decimal conversion chart mouse pad that was SWAG from some vendor.



Trig stuff, I use an app on my phone.

Everything else on the walls is decor.
__________________
No Vacancy

Last edited by bigdaddylee82; 12-03-2018 at 05:15 PM.
bigdaddylee82 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-05-2018, 02:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
blown4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Member # 43190
Location: Eugene OR
Posts: 1,789
I keep copies of the machinist handbook in the house and in the shop. My walls are covered with pegboard for quick access to screw drivers, wrenches, extension cords, wire brushes, grinding wheels, and various other items.
__________________
1976 F-150 2.5tons locked disk braked 466bff ord doubler 44" boggers coil-overs air bumps etc
blown4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-05-2018, 05:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
DozerDan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Member # 9144
Location: NJ
Posts: 9,374
Send a message via AIM to DozerDan
Quote:
Originally Posted by freerider15 View Post
Right now just a 2x3ish whiteboard. Having one of those to scribble on is well well worth it.

This, a white board is my go to. Notes, numbers, drawing something out for someone else to understand etc etc.


I even got them for at work, magnetic ones that we keep on each control cabinet next to the controller. Make a small adjustment or want to play with something, just write down what it was etc.

Pretty much all of the other departments have adopted my idea.

Charts- the ones I don't know off hand I just look up as I keep a lap top in the garage.
__________________
Dan Smith
'physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight'

Fear is not an option!
DozerDan is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-05-2018, 05:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
Pirate4x4 Addict!
 
rockmup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Member # 16699
Location: Greenwell Springs La.
Posts: 10,660
Quote:
Originally Posted by waterhorse View Post

I wish they made a plastic poster size of the rest of that stuff. I'd be willing to pay.

.

They do, the tool shops give them away every year.
rockmup is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2018, 04:55 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
freerider15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Member # 23795
Location: FoCo, Crawlorado
Posts: 2,096
Send a message via AIM to freerider15
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdaddylee82 View Post
I've got a similar version of this Starrett chart, and a decimal conversion chart mouse pad that was SWAG from some vendor.

Trig stuff, I use an app on my phone.

Everything else on the walls is decor.
Sweet, thanks for posting that. I'm going to get some 11 x 17 laminating pouches and get that one made up at work.

Anyone have any others like that, or ones they have offhand?

I've been laminating plenty of things worth it (fuse diagrams for my buggy/XJ's, trailer 6 pin wiring and fuses for my tow rig, etc.).

Having a laminator at work, and a label maker I "have" access to at work is awesome
__________________
XJ Based Buggy: 42's, Tons, Full Hydro, ORI's and a fukkton of tube...


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
freerider15 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2018, 06:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
Window Licker
 
bgaidan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Member # 34948
Location: NC Triangle
Posts: 14,709
Blog Entries: 1
You can get the Starrett wall poster + 4 pocket cards for $12 shipped on ebay. I've been meaning to look for these...real handy to have the card on the desk when drawing cad and cam'ing for the CNC. Just ordered a set.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-LARGE-T...s/263581996027
__________________
Quote:
I love Dicks and will continue to shop there.
bgaidan is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-07-2018, 06:30 AM   #21 (permalink)
today
 
fredycruger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Member # 225557
Location: MA
Posts: 1,528
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgaidan View Post
You can get the Starrett wall poster + 4 pocket cards for $12 shipped on ebay. I've been meaning to look for these...real handy to have the card on the desk when drawing cad and cam'ing for the CNC. Just ordered a set.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-LARGE-T...s/263581996027
starrett used to giving the posters away last year
you could order cards and posters
i ordered like 40 of each


http://www.starrett.com/catalogs

Last edited by fredycruger; 12-07-2018 at 06:31 AM.
fredycruger is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-07-2018, 06:46 AM   #22 (permalink)
Shift to the Best
 
R.DesJardin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Member # 68266
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 2,318
Tap Drill and decimal equivalent charts. Diff cover chart, cuz umm not sure why. An old MSC chart has the most info I have seen. Always Starrett Drill/Tap Drill cards laying around in strategic locations.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Shift controllers and shifters, AMS mounts
Toyota Triple & Twin Sticks
John 3:16- He is the answer.
R.DesJardin is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-07-2018, 08:08 AM   #23 (permalink)
Window Licker
 
bgaidan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Member # 34948
Location: NC Triangle
Posts: 14,709
Blog Entries: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by fredycruger View Post
starrett used to giving the posters away last year
you could order cards and posters
i ordered like 40 of each


Catalogs
They don't have them any more. Ordered some of the other hole saw and band saw charts though.

Next time I'm up that way I'm gonna shoot over to Athol steal some.
__________________
Quote:
I love Dicks and will continue to shop there.
bgaidan is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-07-2018, 08:17 AM   #24 (permalink)
today
 
fredycruger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Member # 225557
Location: MA
Posts: 1,528
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgaidan View Post
They don't have them any more. Ordered some of the other hole saw and band saw charts though.

Next time I'm up that way I'm gonna shoot over to Athol steal some.
bc those fuckers who knew at the time
ordered shitload of them and re-sale them on ebay
fredycruger is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-02-2020, 12:34 AM   #25 (permalink)
Rock God
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Member # 20304
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,441
Send a message via AIM to BarrelRoll
Bumping this back up from the dead, stumbled upon this searching for something else

Little machine shop has some good references

https://littlemachineshop.com/info/b...43147249&CAT=1

I like the tap and clearance drill chart and have most of them on the wall. I also have a chart with all the standard torque specs for my jeep, I can't remember where I found it. After seeing enough stuff fall off desert race cars I became a believer in torque wrenches, all of sudden when everything was torqued to spec stuff started falling off. I used to use a wrench and ratchet, they work fine up to about 3/8" and then you really need popeye arms or some leverage to get stuff tight.
__________________
Quote:
This board is no doubt slowly moving from Pirate4x4 to ElitistYuppyWithTooMuchMoney4x4.
-Braxton 357
BarrelRoll is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

** A VERIFICATION EMAIL IS SENT TO THIS ADDRESS TO COMPLETE REGISTRATION!! **

Email Address:
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.