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Old 08-11-2019, 09:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Super cheap plasma cutters?

I mentioned something about buying a plasma cutter and my wife somehow found this.

Lotos CT520D Air Plasma Cutter/Tig/Stick Welder 3 in 1 Combo Welding Machine, Argon Regulator Included, Ĺ Inch Clean Cut, Brown https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZZNL8Y..._QEouDbV78PZSV

At first I was thinking there is no way a sub $400 plas/tig/stick machine could be worth a shit, but everything I have read about the brand and the machine is pretty positive. Obviously I'm not expecting it to compare to a name brand, but those are $1500 plus.

The only bad thing that I read about is that they like to go through consumables more than the higher quality machines, not a huge deal really.

The tig/stick option is only $100 more. It would be cool to tig some sheet metal every now and then.

Anyone here have a lotos machine?
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Super cheap plasma cutters?

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Old 08-11-2019, 09:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have a cheap Northern Tools Kluch 375. Its a 40 amp unit and cuts great on 1/4Ē. They sometimes have referbs. I paid about $400. Iím guessing similar quality. Clean dry air is a must or tips donít last at all. I use a large home made desiccant dryer and they last ok. I wouldnít make sure consumables are easy to find cheap. Personally I would also make sure you can get drag tips. Thatís almost all I use at this point. The Kluth and many others use the same S45 Trafimet torch. Tips on EBay are cheap so who cares if the only cut 20 feet of 1/4Ē plate before you replace a $1 tip.


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My buddy and I went halves on a Parker (Chinese built) 3 in 1 unit back in 2007. 220V tig/stick/50 amp plasma. The first machine that arrived didn't work. Sent it back. Second one worked for a week and quit.
Sent it back. Third one has been working for the past 12 years with no problems.

I imagine the quality control from the Chinese machines has come a long way since then, but it might just depend if you get a good one or a lemon. Your results may vary.
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I bought Zeny Cut

https://www.amazon.com/SUPER-DEAL-In...gateway&sr=8-2

For $200 it kicks ass. If it blew up tomorrow i'd feel like I got my moneys worth. Hacks off spring perches and does general ridiculous fuckery no problem. It'll actually do a fairly clean cut if you take the time to dial it in.
The gun is totally cheesy but it works. It blows through consumables pretty quick, especially if you treat it like you stole it- which you pretty much did. Good news is the consumable kit is like $20. The instruction manual is hilarious. 10/10 would buy again.






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OK, fuck it, I think I'm going to do it. Will report back
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I bought the cut40 from jegs. I can cut 3/8 with it.
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I've read that when you have a problem with Lotus plasma cutters, you won't be able to get a hold of anyone for warranty coverage. It'll basically be a throw-away the day it doesn't work, lol. Razorweld plasma cutters are a pretty good deal as well for the cost.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AFM33R0...b_t?th=1&psc=1

There is this one too, $300 more but is a/c so it would work with aluminum.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AFM33R0...b_t?th=1&psc=1

There is this one too, $300 more but is a/c so it would work with aluminum.
$300 more is almost double

Also, it is interesting, but not a plasma cutter.
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I've read that when you have a problem with Lotus plasma cutters, you won't be able to get a hold of anyone for warranty coverage. It'll basically be a throw-away the day it doesn't work, lol. Razorweld plasma cutters are a pretty good deal as well for the cost.
I had one of these 3 in 1 machines for years.

It did fail, but, I took it apart, found the shit-stain, and replaced the part based on the board notations. It then went and worked for another 3 years until I sold it.

So you're right.. there is no support, but they aren't nearly as complicated as people think. It was all through hole components and really not that complicated.

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I had one of these 3 in 1 machines for years.

It did fail, but, I took it apart, found the shit-stain, and replaced the part based on the board notations. It then went and worked for another 3 years until I sold it.

So you're right.. there is no support, but they aren't nearly as complicated as people think. It was all through hole components and really not that complicated.
Was the tig worth a shit?
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Its a little more than the ones everyone else is talking about but i just picked up the Everest Supercut 51p. Its 640 shipped right with a 3 year warranty, 30 days money back and easy to find consumables with decent reviews. I ordered it on a tuesday and had it thursday. Have only cut small things but so far its a decent machine and comes with a regulator and spare consumables. Main downfall i see so far is the short ground and power cord.
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I picked up a Primeweld CT520D last Dec from Amazon. 110/220V will cut 1/2". $400 shipped to the door. Chinese rebranded stuff, but the owner answered the phone at 10pm Eastern and his support is great.
Friend of mine has one and cut his plasma hose cutting some stock and he got a free replacement just by calling. He even admitted he cut it because he wasn't looking at where the hose was (under his work). Owner laughed and asked for his address. Sent it out.
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I picked up a Primeweld CT520D last Dec from Amazon. 110/220V will cut 1/2". $400 shipped to the door. Chinese rebranded stuff, but the owner answered the phone at 10pm Eastern and his support is great.
Friend of mine has one and cut his plasma hose cutting some stock and he got a free replacement just by calling. He even admitted he cut it because he wasn't looking at where the hose was (under his work). Owner laughed and asked for his address. Sent it out.
Same part number as the lotos I just got, I'm guessing they're the same machine with different stickers. Worst case I'll call them for parts
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Well I was going to try this thing out last night. Got it out of the box and it's got one of those stupid round twist lock plugs on it not a huge deal, but I wish I would have known since all the hardware stores are about 40 mins away now.
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Well I was going to try this thing out last night. Got it out of the box and it's got one of those stupid round twist lock plugs on it <a href="https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/homersimpson.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Homersimpson" >:-)</a> not a huge deal, but I wish I would have known since all the hardware stores are about 40 mins away now.
Did u get the 520d. Or just plasme
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520d 3 in 1
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I have been looking at this unit at Home Depot. Seems like a great deal, and if it sucks, it can be returned.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/AMICO-PO...C-50/309005560
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I have a 200 dollar one from amazon.

It's got a nice chinesium feel to it.

It cuts metal fine.
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Well I was going to try this thing out last night. Got it out of the box and it's got one of those stupid round twist lock plugs on it not a huge deal, but I wish I would have known since all the hardware stores are about 40 mins away now.

Yeah. I saw that in the reviews before I bought mine. Came with an L6-30, I think. I had a cord from an old dryer on hand and just used that one.
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Has anyone tried out one of the of the cheaper units with a built in compressor? Northern has a Klutch unit for about $550. Haven't researched at all for others.

Thinking about this route for plasma cutting outside the shop while not having to worry about a properly conditioned air supply. I assume that if the air supply is built in then the output of said supply will be nice and clean/dry, but maybe that is assuming too much.
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Are these the 110/220 dual volt cutters?

What amp circuit do the 110v units need?

Some are crazy cheap on ebay
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Well I was going to try this thing out last night. Got it out of the box and it's got one of those stupid round twist lock plugs on it <a href="https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/homersimpson.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Homersimpson" >:-)</a> not a huge deal, but I wish I would have known since all the hardware stores are about 40 mins away now.
Have you fired her up yet?
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Yes, I've cut long cuts on 1/8 and short cuts on 3/16 and 1/4. Super happy so far for the price
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