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Old 02-14-2020, 10:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Miller Multimatic 220

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I want to replace my MM180. And I want to do the very occasional AC TIG, along with the odd regular old DC TIG, but mostly MIG on mild steel and maybe burn a bit of Ni-99 or Castarc stick. I could also see getting a spool gun if there is more aluminum work, and my MM180 is tool old to support a spool gun without a $$$ controller. Currently when I get into it I regularly max the duty cycle on the MM180 also, and looking at the charts for the 220 I should be at about 70-80% duty cycle versus about 30% on the 180 doing the same work.

There is no used machines available here, don't suggest it. I don't care that you can buy some 1000lb transformer machine for less than scrap price and the seller will throw in a free handjob and a Bridgeport series 1. The logout button is at the top right and under your username and you can hit that rather than reply.

Anyone own one? Or looked at one? If you didn't get it, what did you get?
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There is no used machines available here, don't suggest it. I don't care that you can buy some 1000lb transformer machine for less than scrap price and the seller will throw in a free handjob and a Bridgeport series 1. The logout button is at the top right and under your username and you can hit that rather than reply.

Anyone own one? Or looked at one? If you didn't get it, what did you get?
Wow. Just... Wow
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And? I posted that for a reason. I don't give a shit about what you can buy for pennies in your failed industrial town. I can't. Every thread I ever start in here has a bunch of jackwads posting CL links to shit that's 8000km away from me. Fuck off and mainline some bleach if you don't like it.
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I don't know shit about this machine other than what I just read when I looked it up. Hell, if you have 3k burning a hole in your pocket, why wouldn't you buy it? AC/DC tig, stick, mig, ability to spool gun aluminum, auto settings and DVI. Plus, it's a Miller. I'm a Lincoln guy myself, but it's not like your asking about some off brand crap. Lincoln/Miller can't go wrong.

And, who the fuck references seller distance in km?
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I have one, works way nicer then the old Lincoln TIG I had. Pulse control (DC) is a nice feature. Torch stays pretty cool and never got it too hot to really notice. I have never hooked up the MIG torch to it but have the 215 which is basically the same machine but only DC TIG, I use it for MIG one now and will put my spool gun in the 220 so I can be lazy and not swap the torches out. The set and go control work pretty well, I don't find myself messing with the pedal too much and I have a thumb control for those places like doing cages where a pedal is a pain to use. Its about 6" taller then the 215 but is still compact and pretty quiet when running. As far as I know there is no water cooled torch available for it if that is something you are looking for and lacks the custom setting of a Dynasty series but it does not sound like you would be utilizing them anyway. I have no regrets about buying either of mine. The ESAB AC/DC was not out when I got mine but I have heard good things about it if you want to compare the Miller to it. I got mine at cyber weld with a free helmet. If you don't really need the AC TIG the 215 is more compact and they dropped the price quite a bit on it when the 220 came out.
Hopes this helps, good luck with your search.
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I have one, works way nicer then the old Lincoln TIG I had. Pulse control (DC) is a nice feature. Torch stays pretty cool and never got it too hot to really notice. I have never hooked up the MIG torch to it but have the 215 which is basically the same machine but only DC TIG, I use it for MIG one now and will put my spool gun in the 220 so I can be lazy and not swap the torches out. The set and go control work pretty well, I don't find myself messing with the pedal too much and I have a thumb control for those places like doing cages where a pedal is a pain to use. Its about 6" taller then the 215 but is still compact and pretty quiet when running. As far as I know there is no water cooled torch available for it if that is something you are looking for and lacks the custom setting of a Dynasty series but it does not sound like you would be utilizing them anyway. I have no regrets about buying either of mine. The ESAB AC/DC was not out when I got mine but I have heard good things about it if you want to compare the Miller to it. I got mine at cyber weld with a free helmet. If you don't really need the AC TIG the 215 is more compact and they dropped the price quite a bit on it when the 220 came out.
Hopes this helps, good luck with your search.
Awesome to hear some real world feedback. I've eyed up the ESAB machines too but I've never owner one and there isn't as much stock available. I can get a bigger ESAB (285IC I think it is?) for only a couple hundred more but it doesn't include a TIG torch, pedal, or second regulator. The ESAB interface also seems a little too fancy to me, as I believe it's a touch screen?
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The comparable ESAB is actually the Rebel 205IC and it's $100 more for very similar specs. The main difference is you can adjust the A/C TIG quite a bit more. 5-235 amps on the ESAB vs 20-210 amps on the Miller, A/C balance is 60-90% on the ESAB vs 60-80% on the Miller, 25-400Hz frequency on the ESAB vs 60-150Hz on the Miller, and 1-500PPM pulse TIG vs 1-150PPM pulse TIG Miller.

Also I'm not sure if the Miller supports pre-flow for TIG, looking now, the ESAB definitely does (both do post flow). Also not sure if either do pre/post-flow for MIG.
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And? I posted that for a reason. I don't give a shit about what you can buy for pennies in your failed industrial town. I can't. Every thread I ever start in here has a bunch of jackwads posting CL links to shit that's 8000km away from me. Fuck off and mainline some bleach if you don't like it.
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