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Old 12-30-2014, 04:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Getting into the off-road racing scene and short course will be a portion of it. I'm looking into head/neck restraint systems. I know everyone has their own opinion, however, most of the opinions online are not often from off-road racers. I would love to hear some view points, good and bad, and why if possible! Also looking into nice helmets with built in radios.

Anything helps. Thanks all!
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Old 12-30-2014, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I use a simpson hybrid and have been really happy with it. It's comfortable while using, and I noticed a huge difference in the amount of neck pain after a race. With how mine is adjusted, turning my head left to right is limited, but hasn't been a problem while racing. I haven't tried any others, so I can't comment on them. Whichever you choose make sure that it is adjusted properly. Contact the manufacturer for help. Hybrid had reps at our races that would adjust them on site.

If you have a tether come off your helmet during a race, STOP and put it back on right away. I know someone who broke his neck because of this. The system will not work unless it is properly setup and connected. You'll also need to make sure the system is approved by the sanctioning body, and has the correct sfi rating and date. Some series will limit how old the HNR can be.

Helmets: Don't sacrifice quality to save money. Helmets also need to have the correct certifications. I would suggest trying them on before buying. Most helmets will have the HNR screws already installed. If you going to do any longer races, lighter weight will be better.

Couple good threads over at race-dezert
What neck restraint works best in the desert? | race-deZert
HNR which do you prefer and why? | race-deZert

Since we covering safety, a quality seat and belts are also important. Belts need to be mounted a specific way(contact manufacturer for instructions). There's a long debate between suspension and solid seats, which I'm not going to get into. But if you're going to use a suspension seat, buy new or send the seat in to be restrung. Depending on how many races you do, it may have to be restrung part way through the season. Also make sure there is adequate space underneath the seat(manufacturer can give you the correct spec.

A containment or solid seat also needs to be properly mounted. A benefit of the containment seat is you don't waste as much energy holding yourself while turning, watch some in car footage of driver with and w/out a containment, you will notice the difference, same with a HNR. Custom seats are available, ISP has been involved with shortcourse for awhile, and makes a specific seat for us. Featured Off-Road Racing Products

Once you add everything up, the total may seem like a lot. I look at it this way. The first time any safety item stops me from going to the hospital, I made all the money back that I spent. Don't Skimp on safety shit, (including firesuit) in the long run it's really not that much, especially when you compare it to the overall cost of racing.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I use a simpson hybrid and have been really happy with it. It's comfortable while using, and I noticed a huge difference in the amount of neck pain after a race. With how mine is adjusted, turning my head left to right is limited, but hasn't been a problem while racing. I haven't tried any others, so I can't comment on them. Whichever you choose make sure that it is adjusted properly. Contact the manufacturer for help. Hybrid had reps at our races that would adjust them on site.

If you have a tether come off your helmet during a race, STOP and put it back on right away. I know someone who broke his neck because of this. The system will not work unless it is properly setup and connected. You'll also need to make sure the system is approved by the sanctioning body, and has the correct sfi rating and date. Some series will limit how old the HNR can be.

Helmets: Don't sacrifice quality to save money. Helmets also need to have the correct certifications. I would suggest trying them on before buying. Most helmets will have the HNR screws already installed. If you going to do any longer races, lighter weight will be better.

Couple good threads over at race-dezert
What neck restraint works best in the desert? | race-deZert
HNR which do you prefer and why? | race-deZert

Since we covering safety, a quality seat and belts are also important. Belts need to be mounted a specific way(contact manufacturer for instructions). There's a long debate between suspension and solid seats, which I'm not going to get into. But if you're going to use a suspension seat, buy new or send the seat in to be restrung. Depending on how many races you do, it may have to be restrung part way through the season. Also make sure there is adequate space underneath the seat(manufacturer can give you the correct spec.

A containment or solid seat also needs to be properly mounted. A benefit of the containment seat is you don't waste as much energy holding yourself while turning, watch some in car footage of driver with and w/out a containment, you will notice the difference, same with a HNR. Custom seats are available, ISP has been involved with shortcourse for awhile, and makes a specific seat for us. Featured Off-Road Racing Products

Once you add everything up, the total may seem like a lot. I look at it this way. The first time any safety item stops me from going to the hospital, I made all the money back that I spent. Don't Skimp on safety shit, (including firesuit) in the long run it's really not that much, especially when you compare it to the overall cost of racing.
That is incredibly helpful! Thank you for your input! I have been looking at Simpson and Necksgen. I wish there was somewhere around that I could go in to try some different set-ups on! Being a female, I'm worried they might fit me a bit differently. Good measurements I guess. I completely forgot about Race-Dezert! Appreciate the help!
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Old 12-31-2014, 02:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mckenzie's in Anaheim may have some in stock. Or check with a local raceshop. You can also call the manufacturer to see what events their rep's are at, or find a local dealer.

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