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Old 05-20-2014, 06:05 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Post up some pics of the gamma goat rigs please! I believe there is a picture thread
I'd love to post up some pics (if I had some), but wouldn't know how.

Try googling Creative Motor Sports as they were offering the systems for complete vehicle conversions (however at really high costs and may be out of business now?) for some examples to view plus videos in action. Also google "Kelowna Snow wheeling" where you should find some info and a couple of magazine articles of the snow 4x4's in action because these vehicles originally started in Kelowna BC back in the late 80's early 90's. In fact Geby Wager the originator of the Gamma Goat axle idea actually won Top Truck Challenge in 1995 IIRC with his big block CJ on the Goat IFS axles.

These axles/suspensions are really incredible as you get one ton strength or better and a much improved ride in a lighter IFS/IRS system. With the suspension systems they use (they are a little secretive on all that is used) you have about 12" to 16" of travel at each corner and the vehicle can also be lifted or lowered by joystick or computer individually at each corner this amount as well, making it possible for a Jeep running 46" MT's to fit where a Jeep on 35" tires usually goes (the four wheel steering really helps too). They can even lift a tire off the ground w/o a jack just by using the suspension. It's really quite amazing where these big rigs can fit, but the real fun is when you press on the skinny pedal and 750 foot pounds of torque from a V-8 big block lets loose on the 46"+ tires at 1psi allowing the -5,000lb 4x4 to Rip through deep powder at Hwy. speeds.

I'm still working on a set-up where my 3500Lb. Jeep can follow them, but haven't fit large enough tires yet. I've figured if I move up to a tire around 39" I should be around their flotation abilities (however there is more to it then just large tires) as we all know it's a total package of suspension/gearing /power/clearance and tires that gets the job done.

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Old 06-14-2014, 12:58 AM   #152 (permalink)
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well picked up the new tires for this winter took long enough

i was a bit excited to see emm show up



then i took them home ware they wait




so i stayed radial for the white stuf
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I've seen them mentioned but honestly never took them seriously, however I am now considering the 38 x 13.50 Yokohama geolander. What I like most is that it is the only "C" rated radial that I can find for 17" rims, which I am somewhat locked into for now. How are they on snow, on road, on rocks? What kind of mileage are people getting out of these?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:22 PM   #154 (permalink)
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I've seen them mentioned but honestly never took them seriously, however I am now considering the 38 x 13.50 Yokohama geolander. What I like most is that it is the only "C" rated radial that I can find for 17" rims, which I am somewhat locked into for now. How are they on snow, on road, on rocks? What kind of mileage are people getting out of these?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs
Please get some and let us know how they work. I've been wondering all the same things as you, but there is so little info out there on these tires. Better you the guinea pig than me
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:52 PM   #155 (permalink)
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Tempting, then I saw that the 40" was only $30 more...... My 37's already rub everything.
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Old 01-20-2015, 05:28 AM   #156 (permalink)
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Tempting, then I saw that the 40" was only $30 more...... My 37's already rub everything.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I'm going to see about a set of 38's today, I've heard about these are pretty good in the snow. The JK needs all the help it can get!
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:24 AM   #157 (permalink)
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There amazing . Best snow tires I have owned. Full size rig there not approved load rating for my truck but I run them. 40s there on the small side but amazing. As good or better than my irocs.
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There amazing . Best snow tires I have owned. Full size rig there not approved load rating for my truck but I run them. 40s there on the small side but amazing. As good or better than my irocs.
What is the actual height?
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:01 PM   #159 (permalink)
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What is the actual height?
Have you found 38's anywhere?

I can't locate any, they seem to be 3 months out everywhere. 37's are plentiful however.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:10 PM   #160 (permalink)
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Old 01-20-2015, 02:31 PM   #161 (permalink)
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I've seen them mentioned but honestly never took them seriously, however I am now considering the 38 x 13.50 Yokohama geolander. What I like most is that it is the only "C" rated radial that I can find for 17" rims, which I am somewhat locked into for now. How are they on snow, on road, on rocks? What kind of mileage are people getting out of these?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs
A friend of mine ran a set many years ago. They seemed to do pretty good. I never really gave them much serious thought since at the time 35" was the largest size for a 15" wheel. That was before all the newer wheel sizes became popular. I don't care for directional tires, but it's not a huge factor for me. I like the load range C, but the specs on number and type of sidewall plys are absent from their website. I also like the sidewall tread to maximize traction the aired down contact patch. I haven't seen the larger sizes in the wild, so I haven't formed a strong opinion one way or the other. My gut says the radials should do as well or better than some of the other popular tires.
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Old 01-20-2015, 06:45 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Have you found 38's anywhere?

I can't locate any, they seem to be 3 months out everywhere. 37's are plentiful however.
Just going off what tire rack says, availability looked decent.
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:44 PM   #163 (permalink)
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Been looking at these too. Found this info @ Mud Tire Shootout Fifth Place: Yokohama Geolandar M/T - Four Wheeler Magazine


The Details:
Tire: Yokohama Geolandar M/T
Size: 37x12.50R17
Type: Radial
Load range: D
Max load rating (lb @ psi): 3,250 @ 50 psi
Sidewall: 3-ply polyester
Tread: 3-ply polyester, 2-ply steel, 1-ply nylon

Approved rim width (in): 10
Tread depth (in): 17/32
Tread width (in): 9.8
Section width (in): 12.5
Overall diameter (in): 36.5
Static loaded radius (in): 17.5
Revolutions per mile: 573
Claimed weight (lb): 71.6
Weight as tested (lb): 76.2, 75.8, 73, 77.8
Biting edges per square inch (in): 1.39
MSRP: $305.00
Info: Yokohama Tire Corporation | Performance, Commercial, OTR Tires
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:02 PM   #164 (permalink)
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Just going off what tire rack says, availability looked decent.
They show availability on the 23rd, the guy I talked to on the phone was an idiot, zero help at all. The agent I spoke to in the popup chat was pretty good, said they are 2-3 months out still though. Said they have 1 tire in Indiana.

No luck at 1010 tires, I'll keep searching.
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40" old style MTR aired up vs 40" Geolander unmounted.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1322-h517

My buddy had them on a 1ton Ford and wheeled in snow up to the hood and said he loves them. He had MTR's and thinks they are at least as good.

I'm really thinking I might try a set myself.
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Have you tried https://www.onlinetires.com/products...us+rbl+8p.html
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FAWK! they are only 70 miles away and online shows $533 for 2 day shipping.....looks like I'll be doing the "on site pick up" option for $0
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40" old style MTR aired up vs 40" Geolander unmounted.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1322-h517

My buddy had them on a 1ton Ford and wheeled in snow up to the hood and said he loves them. He had MTR's and thinks they are at least as good.

I'm really thinking I might try a set myself.
Did you try to link to your email???
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:27 PM   #169 (permalink)
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Not sure WTF I never have trouble and now I can't get it from my phone, photobucket or Flickr?
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Hmmm, they show both the 38 and 40" tiresas D rated. I would gamble on a C rated tire, but for a D I'd go with an irok or other known tire.
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My buddy just bought the set of 40's and paid $1,650 shipped. I thought it was TireRack?
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Hmmm, they show both the 38 and 40" tiresas D rated. I would gamble on a C rated tire, but for a D I'd go with an irok or other known tire.
Yokohama's site lists them as a C. I would trust the manufacturers site over onlinetires.com
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They don't have the 38's either! Nobody seems to for 3-4 months.
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40" old style MTR aired up vs 40" Geolander unmounted.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui...&sz=w1322-h517

My buddy had them on a 1ton Ford and wheeled in snow up to the hood and said he loves them. He had MTR's and thinks they are at least as good.

I'm really thinking I might try a set myself.
Hard to believe that's a 40" MTR since someone said the 40" geolander measures 38 7/8"


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Old 01-22-2015, 11:38 PM   #175 (permalink)
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Well I have to say that MTR is at 50% or less (so that's worth a 1/2"+) and the Yokohama isn't mounted and since mounting a tire always takes a little height out of a tire; you can expect that measurement of 38 7/8" to most likely be a mounted Geolander.

Be interesting to see if these perform up to or better then say a KM2 or MTRK....

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