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Old 02-26-2019, 07:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I just bought a set of the Mud Grapplers in the 38x15.5xr15 for my DD Bronco about three weeks ago. I'll give you my opinion. I have run "Dirt Grips", "Baja MTZ" and the "SSR" on this truck in the same size. (The first two are not made anymore)

The Nitto's are the loudest when new. All the others were pretty quiet when new and get louder as they ware. These are fairly loud brand new. It's not real objectionable, kind of sounds like an airplane. I hope they don't get louder as they age.

They are also the smoothest running.

I have no balance weights on them and they appear to not need it. The Swampers and Dirt Grips definitely need balanced.

As far as off road, I haven't done much yet. I did drive through a scrap yard after a rain storm that had about 2' of mud. I was in 2WD and thought I might need to lock the wheels, but they worked great. I was pulling a heavy trailer that I'm not sure if that hurt or helped. Lots of weight on the tongue. They don't really look as aggressive as in pictures. But seem to get pretty good traction.

As far as snow, they seem to do great in the deepest Florida snow.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:34 AM   #27 (permalink)
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So a Case of beer still goes out to anyone who can find an AT405 connection in the US or Canada.

They could be sold under Lakesea, Waystone, Dino, or Nokian. I’m seeing them for sale on alibaba.com for $200 a piece.

Maybe someone has buying experience through them??
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Old 03-02-2019, 03:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
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How much money you got to invest. At $200 per tire, 100 tire minimum, you need $20,000 plus the ride and duties. At $300 per tire, you would have to sell 75-80 tires (20 sets) to cover the costs. Do you think we can find 20 guys to buy a set of 4 or 16 guys to buy a set of 5?

That's not much margin to get someone to import them. Not when they can sell Swampers and make the same money with no risk for returns and blems.
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Old 03-02-2019, 04:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Search by this, you will find them.

Lakesea snow off road arctic truck tire at405
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Search by this, you will find them.

Lakesea snow off road arctic truck tire at405
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I was able to find a few sellers who were had 4 piece minimum orders. They all had strange responses though. A few said that the tires were a new design and not ready yet

Even if these tires were being sold under a different name, they are still coming from the same place.... Ill keep trying.
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Old 03-10-2019, 11:35 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Personally I like this size the best of all I have ran. Tall and wide and works well. Hard to find tires in this size though. My Toyo experiments are not going well here....winter is on the down hill here so I am not worried about it, but I would like to get something better down the road.

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Old 03-10-2019, 11:40 AM   #33 (permalink)
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AT405 Radial > 4x4 Off Roads! 4x4 Off Roads

Some information here that may be useful. Compared to my old favorites, the Gumbo MM.

Interesting.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:12 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I’ve seen that site before. I have been talking to a supplier. I can get a 20’ container of these tires for under $200 a piece... plus shipping.

Does anyone know of tire shop that wants to supply these? I’ll see what shipping is going to cost
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:10 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Iíve seen that site before. I have been talking to a supplier. I can get a 20í container of these tires for under $200 a piece... plus shipping.

Does anyone know of tire shop that wants to supply these? Iíll see what shipping is going to cost
Iím interested. I know a lot of snow wheelers up here in WA who would buy a set.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:21 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Do you know someone that will accept that many tires?
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Man the rim protector just about kills it for me. I've had tires with them before that would burp air like crazy at anything below 6 lbs. Hopefully these don't have the same fate.

What do you need a rim protector on a dedicated snow tire for?

Hoe many fit in a container or what's the total price?
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Old 01-05-2020, 09:14 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I have not heard about bead seating issues. I do know that they have a very soft sidewall, which probably helps the bead staying seated.

I don’t know an exact quantity. I just know they are about $200 a tire before shipping.
It’s i kinda hard to email the Chinese lol.

Arctic trucks wanted $700 a tire.
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I have not heard about bead seating issues. I do know that they have a very soft sidewall, which probably helps the bead staying seated.

I donít know an exact quantity. I just know they are about $200 a tire before shipping.
Itís i kinda hard to email the Chinese lol.

Arctic trucks wanted $700 a tire.
OK, well I figured you could fit roughly 100 tires in a container, hard to calculate, because of how they could be nested and compressed, but whatever.

100 tires is $20k and you need to sell 20 to 25 sets.

I'd think you'd have to sell them around $400 ea to get enough buyers, but that could potentially double your money.

It just depends on if you have the time, patience and money to do it.
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Ok I found someone that will ship a 50 piece minimum order. Anyone care to go in on a group buy?

I can get more details on price once I know a quantity. Right now it’s 250ish a piece plus shipping
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10-13 people may be possible to round up.

I wish I had the right rig for these, I'd probably be down to try them.
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:57 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Ok I found someone that will ship a 50 piece minimum order. Anyone care to go in on a group buy?

I can get more details on price once I know a quantity. Right now itís 250ish a piece plus shipping
I am still interested. Where are you located? Where would you have them shipped to? Are you going to sell them? Feel free to PM for my phone number. There would be a lot of guys here in WA interested.
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I’m in the northern tip of Idaho. I’m assuming they would come to a port around Seattle.

I’m not trying to make money off this. I just don’t want to get boned with a lifetime supply of tires lol

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Iím in the northern tip of Idaho. Iím assuming they would come to a port around Seattle.

Iím not trying to make money off this. I just donít want to get boned with a lifetime supply of tires lol

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If you're going to spear head this, I'd suggest padding the price a little bit. That way if a few guys flake you aren't totally screwed. Best case you end up with a free set of tires for your work.
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Are the tires all 38" or any larger available. 40-42?
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Are the tires all 38" or any larger available. 40-42?
According to the page, they measure true or a hair over. So they would be as big as some 39-40s.

I wonder if that supplier could get these

https://www.nokiantyres.com/company/...-the-line-pro/
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Old 02-12-2020, 04:33 PM   #47 (permalink)
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It looks like those tires come from a different factory. I also have a few emails into them. So far no one from the US division knows how to get them
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According to the page, they measure true or a hair over. So they would be as big as some 39-40s.

I wonder if that supplier could get these

https://www.nokiantyres.com/company/...-the-line-pro/
from what i've been told from our nokian rep, the 44" hakka will never be sold in North America i don't even know if you could get them imported?
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Possible. I have not found an import avenue.
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Possible. I have not found an import avenue.
Are you referring to the nokians, or the AT405s.
If you find a way to get the tires here, you might be able to set up a escrow account. So people could put money in to make sure you get enough people. And if you didnt then people get their money back.
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