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Old 04-27-2016, 10:29 PM   #201 (permalink)
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another tire to add to the list: 38x15.5R15 RADIAL TSL's... I know I know, everybody says tsl's suck in the snow but most people I've heard and read that from are talking about bias versions that are usually skinny, stiff, and haven't been grooved.

the 38" radials are C load range, have 3 ply sidewalls, and can be found all day long on craigslist for reasonable prices. I think with a lot of grooving they could be a contender, especially since they only weigh 89lbs new. thoughts or experiences?
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Old 04-28-2016, 06:33 AM   #202 (permalink)
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My 42" Bias TSL's seem to do just fine...
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another tire to add to the list: 38x15.5R15 RADIAL TSL's... I know I know, everybody says tsl's suck in the snow but most people I've heard and read that from are talking about bias versions that are usually skinny, stiff, and haven't been grooved.

the 38" radials are C load range, have 3 ply sidewalls, and can be found all day long on craigslist for reasonable prices. I think with a lot of grooving they could be a contender, especially since they only weigh 89lbs new. thoughts or experiences?
Good tire, been a while since I've seen anyone run them. 10 yrs ago a few friends ran them
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:24 AM   #204 (permalink)
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I seem to remember those and ssr's were the shit back in the day.
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My 42" Bias TSL's seem to do just fine...
Ya... about the same as my 35" big horns
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I seem to remember those and ssr's were the shit back in the day.
I think interco's weights may be off. The same size SSR's are 94lbs and only 2 ply sidewall... doesn't make sense to me

I think I may pick up a cheap set and try them out
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I think interco's weights may be off. The same size SSR's are 94lbs and only 2 ply sidewall... doesn't make sense to me

I think I may pick up a cheap set and try them out
The ssr's do seem to have a little closer tread and some side tread. I could see an extra 5 lbs. Not sure on the difference in the weight 2 vs 3 ply sidewall though.

Edit: too bad they're both ~$550 each I sure miss the days when interco tires were dirt cheap.

4wheel parts lists the ssr's as a full inch taller than the tsl radial, fwiw.

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Ya... about the same as my 35" big horns
Fair enough sir
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Old 04-28-2016, 04:18 PM   #209 (permalink)
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Just so everyone knows, if ordering groover blades from summit, don't think you know what the # sizing means.

I Googled it and got this

Size Chart

So I ordered a pack of #6 and #8 from summit. So then I get some tiny ass blades in the mail. 3/16 and 1/4

There is inch specs on the package and on the invoice, but nowhere on the website. Long story short, with the allstar brand the # is how many 32nds wide it is. (#8=8/32(1/4))

They were cool enough to exchange them out and eat shipping though.
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Edit: too bad they're both ~$550 each I sure miss the days when interco tires were dirt cheap.
that is insane!!!!

I order my groover blades and heads off idealtiregroover. I like the #4 blade, the #2 blades usually break when you get them hot, they are too little
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that is insane!!!!

I order my groover blades and heads off idealtiregroover. I like the #4 blade, the #2 blades usually break when you get them hot, they are too little
My buddy who lent me the groover told me to use the allstar brand. The cheaper ones just melt with his badass groover. They are seriously beefy compared to what I've used before.

Its this groover

Allstar Performance Heated Tire Groovers ALL10270 - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing

Its seriously cheating compared to the ideal style. The tires were even cold and hard.
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x2 roughtly 1/8 on sts radials too.
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in my experience the 12.5 would outperform the 15.5 in both 36 and 38s i think it had to do with ground pressure mainly because the wider ones would spin more when the 12.5s would keep chugging along...mainlly baised on later spring trips
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:02 PM   #214 (permalink)
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I'm still running my 15 year old 36x12.50 tsl radials. I think they're a great all around tire and they do great in the snow. The 2 ply sidewall allows them to air down really well, and as a huge bonus, I can run 1-2psi without bead locks. The one big drawback is at 1-2psi they do fold over pretty bad on the side hills, but usually when the side hill gets bad no one does very well anyway.

I'd like to go bigger, but I have a hard time justifying it since I can almost go anywhere I want already. I've had a few friends that switched to TSL radials, and they went from the back of the pack to the front.
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Not to hijack too bad, but any suggestions for a 35x13.5 tire? Wheel size doesn't matter.
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Not to hijack too bad, but any suggestions for a 35x13.5 tire? Wheel size doesn't matter.
not a ton of 35x13.5 tires out there. you going to be driving on the pavement with them? I would definitely stick with a 15" wheel in the 35" tire flavor
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Not to hijack too bad, but any suggestions for a 35x13.5 tire? Wheel size doesn't matter.
My 35x12.5x15 mtr Kevlars did very good in the snow, made a lot of guys with bigger tires look silly.

That being said, I think there are a lot of good options in that size, most any C rated radial is probably going to do pretty well.
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The 38.5x15.5 radial TSL's were good. Not quite as good as Gumbo Radials or Cepeks, but good. I haven't thought about them in years, can a guy even get the TSL's in that size now?
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The 38.5x15.5 radial TSL's were good. Not quite as good as Gumbo Radials or Cepeks, but good. I haven't thought about them in years, can a guy even get the TSL's in that size now?
yes. they are expensive, heavy, and only have 2 ply sidewalls though. there are better snow tires in that size
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I've got some 37" Maxxis Trepador radials that are amazing in the snow, didn't see them mentioned. They make it up to 40".

They also make a bias ply, I'm sure they're good on the rocks but I saw them in the snow and they were pretty terrible.
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I've got some 37" Maxxis Trepador radials that are amazing in the snow, didn't see them mentioned. They make it up to 40".

They also make a bias ply, I'm sure they're good on the rocks but I saw them in the snow and they were pretty terrible.
I think any of the maxxis bias-ply tires will suck in the snow due to their STIFF sidewalls. I would how ever like to see the new 42" non sticky bias trep on a wide double beadlock wheel in the snow, could be a performer
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:09 AM   #222 (permalink)
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I had some 35 inch maxxis creepys on beadlocks. I would run them at 0 psi and they still sucked in the snow.
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I have a set of 37x12.5x15 Maxxis creepy crawlers, they are old and well broken in. Plus I grooved them up pretty good. They flex very well below 5 lbs, but not great in the traction department. However, they have been wheeled in the rocks for the last 10 years. I think with some siping, they would do well for a bias tire.
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:38 PM   #224 (permalink)
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Any new info?

Curious about some of the 40" radials

Nittos Trail grapplers (these have been out for a while, but I have yet to see them perform in the snow)

Procomp mt2 (saw a guy with them yesterday, he said they were at 4 and looked like they were bagging pretty good, they also looked like they were getting good traction with the sipes in the tread)

Cooper st or whatever?

Maxxis razr?
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Went out last weekend with a TJ with 40" Trail Grapplers on 17" beadlocks. They sucked. Guy got stuck about 20 times.
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