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Old 01-24-2017, 12:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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It's funny how people are quick to shoot you down in a "outside the box" idea I mean yj/tj guys swap in v8,s all the time and honestly aren't that much more heavy and do great on the trail I know for a fact I've wheeled with the them. But you post something looking for help and advice on a v8 samurai build all these fucking negative Nancy's come out of the wood work just to shoot you down. It's fucking hilarious. I AM NOT LOOKING TO BE SHOT DOWN I AM LOOKING FOR HELP. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY POSITIVE ADVICE FOR ME I DO NOT CARE. Thank you
Wow. Never thought I'd see the day when swapping a small block into something was "thinking outside the box"

Ask your high school buddies what they think you should do while at the lunch table today....

I gave you positive advice. Don't waste your time or money on a 305, use a 350 or a 4.3. You just want everyone to bow before you and your "outside the box" thinking... The point of asking for advice is to listen to it and make an educated decision.
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No rswords I'm listening to what your saying I understand a 305 is not the first choice but a master rebuild for that engine is only $200 of course you add another $100 for machine shop head decked and all that jazz but a 305 should be more then enough for a samurai imo you think after rebuilt if it's pushing 180 and that's not enough I can run different cam/carb/exhaust. The part that pissed me off was dirt track I'm listening trust me that's the whole point why I'm here.
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It just kills me how rude people can be. My anger was directed at dirt track 😂
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And what's wrong with a 305 anyway? Sure they are down on power but hell im not looking to race it. Hell I don't even wheel that hard the main point to this is cheepness and Chevrolet parts are everywhere and really v8 samurai..is just to cool haha
And the fact of later on if I ever want to get serious and have the chance to run larger axel/tires I have the engine that will turn them. Sure it's heavy that to me is the only down side.

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Wow. Never thought I'd see the day when swapping a small block into something was "thinking outside the box"

Ask your high school buddies what they think you should do while at the lunch table today....

I gave you positive advice. Don't waste your time or money on a 305, use a 350 or a 4.3. You just want everyone to bow before you and your "outside the box" thinking... The point of asking for advice is to listen to it and make an educated decision.
A 4.3 around here is not only hard to find but when u do it's expensive around $500 $600 maybe they run maybe they don't.
And yes Sbc swapped samurai may not be "outside the box" but no one does them.
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As you can see I was expecting haters like rswords here 😂Anyway my reason for a 305 is its free
As far as the build goes IT WILL be going in my samurai I appreciate all your input if I can figure out how to post pictures I will and the build should be starting as soon as I have some time off work. And the Chevrolet axels thank you so much for correcting my mistake but not telling me what the fuck they are you are so useful my friend THANK YOU.
People are quick to judge and correct your mistakes but don't look to help you...
You are going to spend your time and money to put a piece of shit motor into your sammi, when their are cheap, smaller more powerful engines out there? You are a special kind of stupid.

With a v8 and stock wb, your rear shaft is coming to be crazy short also.
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And what's wrong with a 305 anyway? Sure they are down on power but hell im not looking to race it. Hell I don't even wheel that hard the main point to this is cheepness and Chevrolet parts are everywhere and really v8 samurai..is just to cool haha
And the fact of later on if I ever want to get serious and have the chance to run larger axel/tires I have the engine that will turn them. Sure it's heavy that to me is the only down side.
Same size, weight and parts price as 350, no where near as much hp potential. Just junk. Only worse small block is a 307. In realm of sbc, good are 302, 327, 350, and long rod 383,400.

Learn how to spell axle. Jesus fucking Christ!

Also how long before you graduate hs?
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No rswords I'm listening to what your saying I understand a 305 is not the first choice but a master rebuild for that engine is only $200 of course you add another $100 for machine shop head decked and all that jazz but a 305 should be more then enough for a samurai imo you think after rebuilt if it's pushing 180 and that's not enough I can run different cam/carb/exhaust. The part that pissed me off was dirt track I'm listening trust me that's the whole point why I'm here.
What kind of machine work have you gotten done for $100?
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But he said "machine shop head decked and all that jazz"
Hell I don't know a machine shop that would touch an engine for $100...
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But he said "machine shop head decked and all that jazz"
Hell I don't know a machine shop that would touch an engine for $100...

But it was free so whatevz
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Alright my uncle works at a machine shop (get a great discount) and like I said I'm planning to stretch of course not much becuase I'm staying sprung but my drive shaft won't be to shortened becuase I have a 2wd sm465 it's not much longs then the stock trans. As far as the 305 goes that engine will be in my samurai when it is done I will let you know if you told me so or not lol and (AXLES) what about stock (AXLES) from a 88 k5? I don't know how strong they are but they had a 350/sm465 on them. And yes I'm young but didn't any of you do anything stupid when you were young...and didn't you know everything?? I appreciate the input on the 305 but it is not going anywhere
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Ok instead of me fighting all you guys off how about you tell me what I should do with what I have. No that does not mean saying "throw it all away and swap a 1.6" it's not going to happen
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Alright my uncle works at a machine shop (get a great discount) and like I said I'm planning to stretch of course not much becuase I'm staying sprung but my drive shaft won't be to shortened becuase I have a 2wd sm465 it's not much longs then the stock trans. As far as the 305 goes that engine will be in my samurai when it is done I will let you know if you told me so or not lol and (AXLES) what about stock (AXLES) from a 88 k5? I don't know how strong they are but they had a 350/sm465 on them. And yes I'm young but didn't any of you do anything stupid when you were young...and didn't you know everything?? I appreciate the input on the 305 but it is not going anywhere
Don't forget, your engine/transmission/firewall are going to be moved back. I'll guess 6". If you ran a 4.3, you might be able to mount the trans in its stock location. The sbc is a ton longer, especially if using long water pump accessories.
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1500 suburban axles are junk for 90% of the vehicles out there.. Maybe not in a sammi, but if you have to put any money in (regear, lockers, lsd) start with something else. Also your sammi will be as wide as it is long.

We have all done stupid things as a kid. I turd polished and 8.2 10 bolt in a Camaro once. Not realizing that for $100 I've could've got an 8.5 and had a much stronger set up with a cheaper posi. Don't throw good money after bad by trying to save money upfront. Get quality parts that are upgradable down the road. It's much cheaper to spend a little bit upfront.

If I were you I would try to find a TBI 4.3L. Much fewer sheet-metal mods, lighter, fuel injected, about the same price, same power. A samurai V-8 swap is not a good first or second project. I would expect you have a lot of sheet-metal experience if you don't wanted to turn out like horseshit.

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Ok well I've saw v8 samurais with minimal firewall mods but I think il definitely look for a 4.3 while rebuilding this 305 if I can sell this engine and use said money for a v6 to bolt to this same trans I wouldn't mind doing that. As for axles these gm 10 bolts are free. At most they need brakes I've road in the truck they came out of and the dude is giving me a set of wheels and tires just good enough to roll around the yard for now. I completely understand not using 10 bolts if they are crap but if you think they are good for now then il atleast get them and see what I can do.
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Crap I forgot these GM 10 bolts are 308 gears. That don't sound good to me. But if I could find cheap gearing and I'm pretty sure the guy said they are 30 spline not 28 as well
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Along with 4.3s yotas axels are not only hard to come by but not cheap a (what the owner says is good running) 4.3 is around $500 $600 and I can't even find a set of matching yotas just rears out of IFS trucks
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Along with 4.3s yotas axels are not only hard to come by but not cheap a (what the owner says is good running) 4.3 is around $500 $600 and I can't even find a set of matching yotas just rears out of IFS trucks
Out here, front yota's disappear from auto recyclers as fast as d60's. It doesn't sound like you have much of a budget, but I'd be tempted to go with the Tacoma rear and a trail gear front matching with.
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Il have to do something. I can Get a rear all day long.
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tbi 4.3 is only 160hp when new. gunna be less when its got 150k+ on it. the vortec 4.3 made 180-190hp. Difference is in the heads.

personally id run a 2.7 out of a XL7. lighter, fuel injected with decent mpg, 180hp from factory, still suzuki, and if you throw a different computer on it to tune it, it will really come alive. They are all over the junk yards out here and cheap.
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Il definitely do some research on that 2.7. What about a chevy 2.8 v6s? The v6s that came out of the square body s10s? Thos are cheap and tbi=simple
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2.8 with mpfi is 140 hp. Way less torque than 4.3. Uses different bellhousing and starter. I'd rather a Buick 3.8
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Ok then no. I was just wondering I can get a whole truck with 2.8 good trans/Tcase for $500 that's why I was wondering
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i wish I could get some input and pictures of v8 samurais. It's really hard to find pictures. The best I could find was that Sasquatch samurai build..
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