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View Poll Results: Is there a market for a twin stick and for how much?
Yes, I would pay about $120 44 18.57%
Yes, I would pay about $100 146 61.60%
No, forget it and move on. 11 4.64%
Bacon 36 15.19%
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:18 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah, we have a jeep twinstick boot off a dana 300 and you can make it work, we could also make a pair of rubber gloves work for that matter. We were trying to come up with something that looked and fit a little nicer. But it may turn out that it's not worth making one for it and we will have to make something else work.
Wonder if working off this design, one could make a mold and just pour some silicon or other rubber into and make their own. I'm no craft wiz, but there has to be an easier way to make something fairly inexpensive here. People are making fiberglass molds in their garages now so anything is possible.

Great job on making such a nice looking prototype. I kicked around making one for years, but too many other projects to do so this is one I would definetly buy! Again, I would like the DIY kit format.
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At some point somebody is going to say to both of you....

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At some point somebody is going to say to both of you....

BUY A YELLOW STAR


And when you do, I will say that I'd be happy to support the PBB if I ever actually sell one.
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A yellow star might be nice ,,, by the way your not the only one working on twin sticks for a sammi case.
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He hasn't attempted to sell anything yet. I deleted the post from the person that did actually pimp. I'm watching and if it seems like its becoming a thread to pimp I'll remove it until you get a yellow star. Its only fair to the other vendors on the BB.
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Thanks Rox. As stated in my original post, I'm just looking into this and I'm not actually selling them at this time. When I get the manufactring costs back I will post up if we decide to make them. At that time I would be happy to buy a yellow star if we produce them!
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:15 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I'd be in for a set also.
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Im on the east coast and would like one pre made just drop in (nice).
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Send me a messager if u start making em, I would definately buy a set
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Send me a message too. I'm definately interested in getting a set.
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Thanks guys. I'm looking into the production costs right now. When I get a number I will post up on whether it's a go or not. My thought was to do a trial run of 100 or so and see how much it costs and how they sell.
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Can anybody on here hook me up with some CNC machining or water jet cutting?
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As one can see I have been working on this product for more than 2 years and I`m weeks away from coming out with it. I have all the proto types done and have even started on the production of them. the main hold up has been finding the time to make the mold for the seals ,,, yes that "SEALS" not seal
I currently make twin-sticks for
Dana 20 jeep CJ
Dana 20 scout II
Dana 300
Dana 300 "flip"
Gm np-205
Ford np-205
Ford bronco "T" shifter Dana 20
Ford Bronco "J" shifter Dana 20

and I have 90% of the parts done for Toyota top shift and forward shift cases
( just need to finish the 4340 "Cromo" shifter arms.

All of the twin sticks we make have stainless steel shifter rods and the toyota and Sammi sticks well have heat treated 4340 lower arms.

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2 cnc turning centers
2 cnc milling centers
4 screw machines
4 milling machines
2 punch presses
2 band saws
2 power hacksaws
1 cold saw
1 full auto cold saw
5 welder
and tons of small support equipment


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P.S. this is a nice post to find out what the going selling price well be for sammi twin sticks, when ever the final price gets posted I well set my price a full 30% below that.
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:25 PM   #66 (permalink)
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As one can see I have been working on this product for more than 2 years and I`m weeks away from coming out with it. I have all the proto types done and have even started on the production of them. the main hold up has been finding the time to make the mold for the seals ,,, yes that "SEALS" not seal
I currently make twin-sticks for
Dana 20 jeep CJ
Dana 20 scout II
Dana 300
Dana 300 "flip"
Gm np-205
Ford np-205
Ford bronco "T" shifter Dana 20
Ford Bronco "J" shifter Dana 20

and I have 90% of the parts done for Toyota top shift and forward shift cases
( just need to finish the 4340 "Cromo" shifter arms.

All of the twin sticks we make have stainless steel shifter rods and the toyota and Sammi sticks well have heat treated 4340 lower arms.

************************************************** ********

We manufacture all of are products in house on
2 cnc turning centers
2 cnc milling centers
4 screw machines
4 milling machines
2 punch presses
2 band saws
2 power hacksaws
1 cold saw
1 full auto cold saw
5 welder
and tons of small support equipment


Duffy
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P.S. this is a nice post to find out what the going selling price well be for sammi twin sticks, when ever the final price gets posted I well set my price a full 30% below that.
Okay, I don't need to test market this product for you. Why don't you go ahead and sell them and I will buy one from you. If you're going to sell a unit like this for $70 complete there's no point in me going through the hassle and cost of production. Post up a pic of your prototype and make it available for sale to the Suzuki community. That's the main reason why I was doing this, it certainly wasn't to get rich. I will refer all inquiries to you that I have received about purchasing a twin stick. How's does that sound? All I want is for someone to make one and up til now nobody has ponied up. Are you going to be the guy to finally do it?
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As one can see I have been working on this product for more than 2 years and I`m weeks away from coming out with it. I have all the proto types done and have even started on the production of them. the main hold up has been finding the time to make the mold for the seals ,,, yes that "SEALS" not seal
I currently make twin-sticks for
Dana 20 jeep CJ
Dana 20 scout II
Dana 300
Dana 300 "flip"
Gm np-205
Ford np-205
Ford bronco "T" shifter Dana 20
Ford Bronco "J" shifter Dana 20

and I have 90% of the parts done for Toyota top shift and forward shift cases
( just need to finish the 4340 "Cromo" shifter arms.

All of the twin sticks we make have stainless steel shifter rods and the toyota and Sammi sticks well have heat treated 4340 lower arms.

************************************************** ********

We manufacture all of are products in house on
2 cnc turning centers
2 cnc milling centers
4 screw machines
4 milling machines
2 punch presses
2 band saws
2 power hacksaws
1 cold saw
1 full auto cold saw
5 welder
and tons of small support equipment


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P.S. this is a nice post to find out what the going selling price well be for sammi twin sticks, when ever the final price gets posted I well set my price a full 30% below that.

I agree with Trucktrader that I would just like someone to finally produce these already. HOWEVER, It was a dickhead thing to do to hijack into a post to pimp your own shit . I support you building one for the market, but really. To already undercut a guy that hasn't even made them yet. Continue your own post with the updated information. Good luck in your quest.

Trucktrader, I will still want one if you sell them! Even for the additional 30%.
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Thanks Catzuk, I thought posting like that in someone else's thread was less than noble. But if Double D's backs up his claim and produces them I will save the time and hassle and let him do it. I just want someone to do it and I don't care who it is. Now come on D.D., let's get some twin sticks in the hands of the zuk guys!
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I`m sorry if I came off as a jurk , I get a little ticked over the sammi sticks in that its been a pain in the butt trying to get around Bradly Potter patent on them and still make the cheap so every one well want and can afford them.
One really has to wonder why some would spend $10,000 to $15,000 for a fooking patent only to never sell the rights to it or make a product.

Yes it may seem like I`m trying to hi jack your post but what I`m trying to do is let your self and others know that I`m coming out with them soon and there not a copy of yours and do to making them in house I can under sell someone that out sources there parts, I think it`s better to be up front than have you spend thousands on a product only to find out later.

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As one can see I have been working on this product for more than 2 years and I`m weeks away from coming out with it. I have all the proto types done and have even started on the production of them. the main hold up has been finding the time to make the mold for the seals ,,, yes that "SEALS" not seal
I currently make twin-sticks for
Dana 20 jeep CJ
Dana 20 scout II
Dana 300
Dana 300 "flip"
Gm np-205
Ford np-205
Ford bronco "T" shifter Dana 20
Ford Bronco "J" shifter Dana 20

and I have 90% of the parts done for Toyota top shift and forward shift cases
( just need to finish the 4340 "Cromo" shifter arms.

All of the twin sticks we make have stainless steel shifter rods and the toyota and Sammi sticks well have heat treated 4340 lower arms.

************************************************** ********

We manufacture all of are products in house on
2 cnc turning centers
2 cnc milling centers
4 screw machines
4 milling machines
2 punch presses
2 band saws
2 power hacksaws
1 cold saw
1 full auto cold saw
5 welder
and tons of small support equipment


Duffy
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P.S. this is a nice post to find out what the going selling price well be for sammi twin sticks, when ever the final price gets posted I well set my price a full 30% below that.

That was totaly uncalled for

Why come in his thread to undercut him He, like many others have gotten tired of hearing someone is going make them available so he is doing something about it.

The comment in your P.S. will make me spend the extra for his.
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yeah trucktrader....i would be willing to spend the extra money to buy yours for sure. What an asshat!
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Thanks Catzuk, I thought posting like that in someone else's thread was less than noble. But if Double D's backs up his claim and produces them I will save the time and hassle and let him do it. I just want someone to do it and I don't care who it is. Now come on D.D., let's get some twin sticks in the hands of the zuk guys!
Talks cheap. I would like to see one for 70 bucks, but I would'nt buy one.
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TruckTrader, you still got my $$ when you are ready. The extra 30% is nothing to me. Respect, courtesy and manners deserves a bit more.
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I`m sorry if I came off as a jurk , I get a little ticked over the sammi sticks in that its been a pain in the butt trying to get around Bradly Potter patent on them and still make the cheap so every one well want and can afford them.
One really has to wonder why some would spend $10,000 to $15,000 for a fooking patent only to never sell the rights to it or make a product.

Yes it may seem like I`m trying to hi jack your post but what I`m trying to do is let your self and others know that I`m coming out with them soon and there not a copy of yours and do to making them in house I can under sell someone that out sources there parts, I think it`s better to be up front than have you spend thousands on a product only to find out later.

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Can't say I speak for anyone else, but I do want to say thank you for trying to get a twin stick to the market for the zuks. And thank you to all who have worked on them as well. Many have over the years. It does read like you are trying to appologize to Trucktrader for hijacking the thread, and if so thats great. Just please re-read your original post.

The professional way to address this would have to pm'd Trucktrader this info and not make a public scene. These words are now out there and looks like you are a complete ass when it comes to business and would undermine all who try to build products that are simular to yours. Again, you should have just updated your original thread of your twin stick project. That would have put it up on the top of the post board and everyone could have read it there. See the difference?

There is a market for these if the price is right. Others can surely make some and might even make a profit. My hat goes to Trucktrader as he wanted to make some for us fellow zukers and didn't care to make a profit so to speak. Thats someone who is a real supporter of our community.

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slam me if you like.
how should of I handled it?
keep my mouth shut and let them spend $5,000 to $8,000 to run a 100 sets off to only then get my product done and then sell cheaper to be in the market?

Should I just read this post and throw out the 100+ hours and over a grand I`m into the twin sticks at this point?

If you read the link you well see I have been working on this my self for a long time, mostly do to the dammm patent. If you want to throw mud throw it at the jackass that has kept every one from buying these sticks for so long , All I`m trying to do is make a good product and get around some dead beat with a patent and make a few bucks. I`m sorry if pointing out that my cost to make the product is lower than jobing it out but its the truth.
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