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Old 07-16-2007, 07:06 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:14 PM   #27 (permalink)
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the lighter the better !

Bingo. That is why I wheel a zuk.
*Its easier on the haul vehicle
*working on it is easier cause the parts are lighter
*2 guys can flip it back on its wheels
*1/2 ton parts are like 1 ton parts behind a 4 banger (cheaper!)
*they are narrower and fit through the trail better.
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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What the hell is a Jeep?

Something about a vehicle that uses lighting from the truck stop, and the scrap parts left over from the other car companies to make a vehicle turns me off. Oh wait my Samurai bumpers have truck stop lights, and I have Jeep flares on it, never mind.
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Their just way cool! I got mine for free 86 tintop bone stock with 50k
on the odo it,s a little taller a little wider and a lot of fun I,ll never get
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What the hell is a Jeep?

Something about a vehicle that uses lighting from the truck stop, and the scrap parts left over from the other car companies to make a vehicle turns me off. Oh wait my Samurai bumpers have truck stop lights, and I have Jeep flares on it, never mind.
I was going to say something like that, but you beat me to it!

Get whatcha like. I like Samurais because they are small and can go places others cant fit. But with 33" tires and lift, the samurai is not so small.

Since I like small 4x4s sooooo much that I just picked up an EVEN SMALLER samurai!

Meet LJ10 (state of the art 1972, 1972, 2 stroke, 350cc, air cooled twin fury!!!!) you want original? get one of these, put samurai motor and other pieces under it and you've got one capable little package!

AND IT FITS IN THE BED OF A PICKUP!
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:23 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I was going to say something like that, but you beat me to it!

Get whatcha like. I like Samurais because they are small and can go places others cant fit. But with 33" tires and lift, the samurai is not so small.

Since I like small 4x4s sooooo much that I just picked up an EVEN SMALLER samurai!

Meet LJ10 (state of the art 1972, 1972, 2 stroke, 350cc, air cooled twin fury!!!!) you want original? get one of these, put samurai motor and other pieces under it and you've got one capable little package!

AND IT FITS IN THE BED OF A PICKUP!
LJs rock! That looks like its in good shape too. Any LJs I see around here are badly rotted out.
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I was going to say something like that, but you beat me to it!

Get whatcha like. I like Samurais because they are small and can go places others cant fit. But with 33" tires and lift, the samurai is not so small.

Since I like small 4x4s sooooo much that I just picked up an EVEN SMALLER samurai!

Meet LJ10 (state of the art 1972, 1972, 2 stroke, 350cc, air cooled twin fury!!!!) you want original? get one of these, put samurai motor and other pieces under it and you've got one capable little package!

AND IT FITS IN THE BED OF A PICKUP!
I saw one of those in randsberg Calif nobody was around to ask about it tho
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:46 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:18 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:55 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Its a "cheap" thing. You wouldn't understand!
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:34 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I absolutely agree, but the resale value will always be much higher on a jeep (both vehicles being built similarly).
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paid 100 for mine, just needed to wire up a toggle switch and push button start and was driving it.

I have less than a grand in mine, and I have 32's, 6" of lift, 6.5:1 t-case gears, welded rear, and enough spare parts to build a second zuk if I need to. Oh, and in that price was a set of yota axles that are waiting to go in the zuk.
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:06 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I have a heep flattie with 12k invested to make it capable. Wife has a sammurai for 6k that shows my flattie up some times. We now have two sammi's will have one for sale when finished. 88 rebuilt 1.3 4.12 t-case soa on 31 pro comp mts lock rites f/r. $2000? Works excellently. I have driven it through some of the hardest trails in moab (pritchet canyon) and made black bear pass in colorado look easy compared to familys jeeps. Sammi's have some week parts that need to upgraded once you have larger than 30 inch tires on them. Also my 53 cj3b is for sale so I can put the money into a sammy of my own. They are so easy to work on compared to my jeep and much more comfortable to drive for an ogre like myself.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:52 AM   #41 (permalink)
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One nice thing about sami's is that they are narrower and shorter. SO when the jeeps dig out the trails, the samis won't get stuck in the same ruts and /or holes. It's very nice.

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I have a heep flattie with 12k invested to make it capable. Wife has a sammurai for 6k that shows my flattie up some times. We now have two sammi's will have one for sale when finished. 88 rebuilt 1.3 4.12 t-case soa on 31 pro comp mts lock rites f/r. $2000? Works excellently. I have driven it through some of the hardest trails in moab (pritchet canyon) and made black bear pass in colorado look easy compared to familys jeeps. Sammi's have some week parts that need to upgraded once you have larger than 30 inch tires on them. Also my 53 cj3b is for sale so I can put the money into a sammy of my own. They are so easy to work on compared to my jeep and much more comfortable to drive for an ogre like myself.
Okay you are comparing a 50+ year old Jeep to a Sammi They make great wheelers but you still have to put work into them like anything else.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:53 PM   #43 (permalink)
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ya samis are cheap, purchase cost of my jeep 1990 yj was $4500. Included a drivetrain with 95k miles, 6 new BFG mud terrain 33', detroit in the rear with the superior shafts. Arb in the front. Overall im happy with it. Just sucks that i had to spend another $3000 to get a fuel injection system put on it because the carb was unreliable. i still love my jeep, or as they are called here heep.
For both jeeps and sammis i think deals will always be out there, i got a dana 60 rear from a 77 f250 for $150 and a spooled, totally rebuilt with 0 miles on it dana 44 out of a chevy for $350. In the end dont we tend to run other trucks parts anyways? ive seen some nice samis but i love my Jeep, because shes all mine. to each there own.
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I absolutely agree, but the resale value will always be much higher on a jeep (both vehicles being built similarly).
I agree that resale will be higher but so will the initial investment. I think that the resale for similarly modified vehicles will be proportional to the initial investment.
I had a 92 Sammi in High School and to this day I regret selling it. I didn’t know much back then. (35x16x15 Boggers on stock axles with 5.13) I sold it to buy a YJ because I thought it had stronger components. 8 years and approximately 10K later I wish I still had that little Samurai to play around in.
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Before I answer this I have to tell you I am a die hard Jeep guy. First car, dad always had one, got 3 now, blah, blah blah....

The only reason I would choose a Sammi over a Jeep...is the people. Jsut like the Yota people (kind of) . They seem to be more educated and do things with a little more common sense. With the introduction of the TJ all the fawking retards came out of the woodwork. Then the Rubicon shows up and the real idiots make there presence known.
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The only reason I would choose a Sammi over a Jeep...is the people. Jsut like the Yota people (kind of) . They seem to be more educated and do things with a little more common sense. With the introduction of the TJ all the fawking retards came out of the woodwork. Then the Rubicon shows up and the real idiots make there presence known.
SO true. I was up at Big Bear (So.Cal) and I saw a lot of REALLY nice Rubicons, all decked out in the latest bolt ons and not a single scratch (in the paint or the tires). Just like the sandrail scene was runied by big dollar players, so will the 4x4 scene. We will have parking lots on the trails, because all you need is money and now you're a 4x4 expert.

The samurai guys are real, because they have to be. They can't drop 20 large on a "nice" rig. Granted, a lot of them are the cheapest bastards you'll ever meet. Like a homeless MacGyver with a fancy cardboard box!
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See...the thing is

Jeeps are like Samurais for fat people...
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:36 AM   #48 (permalink)
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lighter is better

sami-swift motors are about a100lbs ,powerglide's are about 90lbs,atlas 4-speeds are 120lbs[10.34 in low]...... 310lbs.. and 53 inches long. head swap makes a big difference in power, i'll soon have video or dyno run. sg-
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Okay you are comparing a 50+ year old Jeep to a Sammi They make great wheelers but you still have to put work into them like anything else.
Yes its a 50+ year difference. What the hell does that have to do with anything. Better is better right? My point is this. Flattie wheel base 78", Sammy wheelbase 81". They are relatively the same shape and size. For the money you get more rig with a sammy than with a jeep. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE my jeep. Have had a jeep for 8 years, family had one my whole life. I just drove it through the rubicon for the first time. Did all the optional hard stuff in it except for the little sluice. No damage what so ever. I was the only one in the group to not touch a body panel on anything. I think that with a built sammy I could do the same thing just more comfortably.
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Yes its a 50+ year difference. What the hell does that have to do with anything. Better is better right?
No not right. Take a 50+ year old woman and a woman that is in her early 20's. Which one is going to take the most work before you can take her out?


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For the money you get more rig with a sammy than with a jeep.
You get lighter weight I will give you that. Are they all IFS? Are they all anemic 4cyls?


You can't talk about money anymore cause they are not that much cheaper if any...
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